(05-05-2019 03:05 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  By the way, you do know that not all people of the 'alt-right' are 'white nationalists', right? Or, is it just easy for you to conflate the former as being exclusively the latter?

Here is primer for you on the patriot prayer group:

Quote:Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech, and opposing big government.

Is being in favor of free speech and opposing big government now de facto proof of white nationalism?

Here is another

Quote:A Facebook message by Patriot Prayer states that “no extremists will be allowed in” to its Liberty Weekend events. It continues: “No Nazis, Communists, KKK, Antifa, white supremacists, i.e. or white nationalists.”

https://www.foxnews.com/us/adopt-a-nazi-...ayer-rally

Or does the fact that they strongly support Trump make them automatically 'racist' and/or 'white nationalist'?

I am aware that not all supporters of the alt-right are white nationalists. I absolutely don't believe that if you support Trump then you are automatically racist.

I don't know if Patriot Prayer is simply an alt-right group or actually a white nationalist group. I do know the the Proud Boys are a white nationalist group and that they were also involved in this recent skirmish in Portland that we are discussing.

Here is another link that might provide you with further background on Patriot Prayer.

https://truthout.org/articles/how-patrio...-portland/

Some pertinent quotes:

"Over the next year and a half after becoming a public force, Patriot Prayer began inviting others in the far right to join in their public events — the kind of call white nationalists are always primed for. Open white supremacy is generally unpopular in the US. To gain a connection to the mass culture, white supremacists require a crossover point, a group of people close enough to their ideas and built into the larger conservative social framework to help move them onto a public stage."

and further down the article:

"While a large Trump contingent drew Gibson toward the Oregon GOP, he refused to disassociate himself from the large “alt-right” contingent that had started joining his events. Instead, he acted as a de facto organizer, providing them a platform and access to his conservative following. Gibson was, for all practical purposes, their most effective tool for growth. His own politics mattered little as his movement has functioned as a Trojan horse for actual white nationalism, facilitating its growth and expansion.

The most famous of his followers, however, has been Jeremy Christian, who was accused of murdering two people on public transit as they were attempting to de-escalate his Islamophobic attack on two women. Only days after the stabbings, Gibson decided to hold another one of his “free speech” rallies, almost identical to the one that Christian had attended months earlier."