(04-16-2019 08:31 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  The point still stands if you substitute "stupid" for the verbatim "smart enough." And that point was:

Quote:If we can’t trust our elected reps to review tax returns, how can they be trusted with the power to make war? To levy those taxes? To decide what is and isn’t law? These people have staffs and the ability to hire experts to review the data for them.

Sanders should be arguing over the relevance of his tax returns and the fact that they are unlikely to satisfy the desires of the Dems, as opposed to suggesting that anyone isn’t smart enough to do anything. Glass houses and all (regarding the admin she works for).

But y'all seem more than happy with the Trump Admin to continually do things that indicate they aren't "smart enough" for the job, and even defend those actions. Even if that means defending the idea that saying something about someone's intelligence is akin to commenting on their training/competency in a subject. Astounding.

The bold was actually your point.... because you've said it numerous times in numerous ways.

Trump is an arrogant prick. To call him 'not smart enough for the job' is your opinion, grounded primarily in the fact that you disagree with his plans/policies... and not remotely with a measure of his 'intelligence'. In the simplest example, you think his spokesperson should argue the significance of the returns, and I suspect he wants her to do as she has done in order to get some of them to admit that they're simply out to 'get him'. Tell them they're 'not smart' and they will fight back. That's how people with borderline personality disorder 'win'. They goad you into acting out of your character... doing something you're not nearly as skilled at doing as they are. Keeping their cool while they engage in conversation merely designed to keep you off guard and on the defensive.

Apparently he has been intelligent enough to collude with Russia and hide crimes 'in plain sight' in his tax returns... and yet the CIA, FBI, IRS et al haven't been able to produce a crime, much less a smoking gun. Arguing he isn't smart but that he's been able to evade charges, much less a conviction (while a private citizen I might add) despite some pretty Herculean efforts is not a good posture. He clearly isn't fazed by it.... and it sounds desperate to us. We're not defending him. We're just pointing out the obvious facts. The IRS didn't find wrongdoing... a bunch of Congressmen sure as hell aren't. They're just looking for the APPEARANCE of dirt, and we all (including you) know it. Using the power of the government for this purpose is wrong... and you know that too.

We HAVE hired people to investigate tax returns. They're called the IRS. We didn't choose Trump's returns to 'audit' the IRS.


***ETA There are plenty of people on the right convinced that Hillary and Bill did all sorts of bad things as well... remember the Tyson chicken commodity trade? There's even a Vince Foster thread on here now.... but guess what? Tyson Chicken, Whitewater, Monicagate, Benghazi, the server.... they're all 'done'. There may be something more recent, but while some people still don't buy it, those investigations are over.