(10-27-2018 11:10 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 11:03 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 08:23 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 11:33 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 11:19 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  OK, first, I view elections for representative bodies as hiring a proxy to vote for me. All I really care about is whether the person is going to vote the way I want him/her to vote. If it's an executive position, the other things matter. But for a senator or representative, how he/she will vote is about 99 and 44/100 percent of my decision. Am I confident that Ted Cruz will vote the way I want him to? Absolutely not, in fact I'm quite sure there are issues where he will vote the opposite of what I want. But that's maybe 5-10% of the time. With O'Rourke, I'm guessing more like 90-95%. I'm not going to hire someone who is going to do what I don't want done 95% of the time.

So you find out shocking that I would ask a generic question? Really? It's certainly not my first time to do it, and I'm pretty sure it won't be the last. So you've been warned, try not to be shocked next time.

As far as civility, I don't find lying to be civil, particular lying about something like being bipartisan when the record reflects otherwise. I think O'Rourke has run a campaign based on fluff and dishonesty.

As for your comment that Trump's uncivil comments do not amount to a call for violence, thank you. That's all I was looking for with my question. See how easy that was? I agree with you, but there seem to be a lot of talking heads who don't. That was the point of my question.

I understand why you wouldn't vote for Beto, I'm not trying to pitch you to him as a candidate that you would vote for. I'm trying to pitch that he has the temperament that we seem to be missing these days. You asked where were the politicians that acted civil, and I provided a good example. Beto regularly talks to his audiences about the need to listen to the other side of an argument and those on the other side of the political spectrum. I find that commendable, do you?

And there is certainly a huge gap in civility between your claim that Beto is lying and that's uncivil and my claim that Trump encouraging people to cheer for the jailing of a political opponent for no reason is uncivil. Suggesting those are in the same category is like suggesting telling your friend the new piece of art they bought is nice and telling the police your friend was at your home when you knew he was out committing a crime are lies that are in the same category.

So the current whine is encouraging people to cheer for the jailing of a political opponent for no reason. Got it.

Look Soros isnt 'dirty', but by no means is he pure as the driven snow. I suggest you try to scold *your* side about the the omnipresent calls related to the Kochs in the same manner.

And to be blunt, you got bent out of all serious shape when those calls were directed at Hillary -- someone who truly *should* have been charged with a crime. But you got seriously bent out of shape over those calls.

And, you seriously defend the same types of calls on impeachment of Trump.

Color me a cynic but your viewpoint here doesnt seem very objective on this matter. In the slightest.

Did I miss the news story about a Democratic politician leading a lock them up chant about the Koch brothers?

Just open up any liberal bent media and you are sure to find any number of stories of using legal process (both of jailing and suing) against the Kochs.

I see you are still stuck on Trump doing this. Tell us when you find the marrow in that bone.