(09-07-2021 11:30 AM)johnintx Wrote:  

(09-07-2021 11:14 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-07-2021 09:37 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(09-07-2021 08:33 AM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  I'd not be surprised if Oklahoma State became the new king of the B12 conference.

In football? Iowa State says hello. I don't see a true king. And I think that is a good thing. Rest assured, Cincinnati and UCF can hit the ground running and pull their weight in football immediately.

Where have you been the last 109 years?

Iowa St. is good right now. But they haven't won a conference title since 1912. Came close last year as #1 seed going into ccg.

Oklahoma St. and TCU would be the best bets.

Can Iowa State sustain what they have if Matt Campbell leaves? They have a good thing going, and if they can keep Matt Campbell, they have a good shot. But, if say, Michigan comes calling, ISU will have to make another good hire. They have invested in the program, for sure.

The same can be said for TCU and Gary Patterson, but I believe that TCU will spend whatever it takes to be competitive. I trust them to make a good hire when Patterson steps away (which may not be for a while). The lessons of the 1994 realignment still sting for them.

I agree that OSU stands to succeed in the new Big 12. Their program is sustainable, and is bigger than their longtime coach. The Pickens donations stabilized their program and increased their expectations.

I think Iowa State is sustainable if/when Campbell leaves. It's tough for in-state rival Iowa to compete in the B1G whereas ISU figures to be one of the top BIG12 teams. When the play-off expands, that's a strong selling point. The state of Iowa isn't exactly a hot bed of talent but regionally ISU seems to recruit well against the B1G schools in that area. ISU is riding high on the Campbell wave right now but I think they can still be a consistent top 25 team if, for example, Michigan hired Campbell.