(07-20-2021 09:48 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 09:22 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 08:23 PM)scorpius Wrote:  

(07-19-2021 06:51 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  CRT isn't telling blacks that they are evil and the oppressors is it?

All it does is bring to light what goes on in society so we can better deal with the problem going forward. We can't very well apply it to blacks or whatever race when needed if we don't understand the problem in the first place.

You're effectively trying to use the same flawed logic as someone who thinks "Black Lives Matter" means that white lives do not matter. You're twisting it to try to discount the original purpose and intent.

(07-19-2021 09:10 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Ding ding ding winner winner Chicken Dinner. Every white person in the US will be attacked because of this grossly ignorant racist dogma. Its pathetic and shameful and just breeds more hate and dissension. It does absolutely nothing to bring folks together. Just the opposite.

The only ones attacking white people like you describe are the ones using the childish dog whistle of "woke" to insult and discredit those trying to solve this very real structural racism problem.

I always knew it was a problem. I didn't need CRT to tell me what I already knew was going on. Like I said earlier, I saw it first hand while growing up and still see it today among the Trump-types in private. Trying to deny it and create stupid dog whistles against it isn't going to make the problem go away. Society as a whole has had enough of it and will solve it one way or another, just like what's happening with the LGBTQ community and other historically oppressed groups. So what's the point in trying to fight it, other than to stand proud on the wrong side of history?

Quote:Do yourself a favor and get out more and meet people of all backgrounds and God's sake turn off CNN and other media outlets. Its turning your brain to mush.

You do realize I've been to all 50 states, close to 40 different countries and 5 continents? (6 if you count Canary Islands as part of Africa)

Quote:I'll bet you believe the every person in the South owned slaves as well. I also bet you believe the war was fought over slavery as the primary reason even though the first mention of slavery was over a year after the war begin. Did you have any idea that Abraham Lincoln wanted to send every black person in America to Africa, South America and the Caribbean for a new start? These are things the media is never forth right about.

Okay, so I was right! In schools in the south, they do try to hide the importance of slavery as the cause of the Civil War in order to try to make slavery sound less bad and to feel better about their history. Fact of the matter is, without slavery, there is no Civil War. No matter how much lipstick you put on that pig, it's not going to change that fact. So what is the motivation to hide it? THAT is what CRT addresses.

Why don’t you do us all a favor and learn as much about CRT as you can and then report back to us on your findings.

As far as the RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY whatever clown came up with this term obviously is NOT a person understands history. Everything you and your Regressive clods are doing has one goal in mind. Tear down the family unit. Those who keep the family unit together will be here tomorrow to discuss history and they will be on the right side of history.

Ancient Rome gives us this example. What did they find in the bath houses at Pompeii? Surely if you are world traveler you see what decadent folks do to society.

The war was like every other war fought over money. I know you are self righteous and laden with guilt but these are facts. Did slavery and states rights play a large part? Yes. But, I promise you no one would send their son anywhere in battle to end slavery knowing he may not come home. You are idiot to believe otherwise. It’s a nice thought but mankind is not wired that way. China presently uses slave labor. Where is the US soldiers to go end it? Slaves? Yes too many sources to refute it.

Finally, only a very small percentage of people in South owned slaves. So why would they fight so hard to keep an institution that was no benefit to them? The people in my family that fought for the Confederacy were share croppers and owned land. They fought for their possessions they worked their whole life for fearing it would be taken away. Real life not your fantasy land.

To your last question: You don’t have to be in direct ownership of something to end up fighting for it. In fact, the people who have to do the hardest fighting in any war almost never have skin in the game.

Also, it is true that a relatively small amount of people owned slaves, but it is also true that 30% of Virginia, 20% of Kentucky, 25% of Tennessee, 45% of Georgia, 33% of NC, 45% of Alabama, 55% of Mississippi, 47% of Louisiana, 57% of SC, 30% of Texas, and almost 26% of Arkansas were enslaved. That means that even if your immediate family didn’t own a slave, the practice was so ubiquitous that they knew that the fall of the institution would probably leave them and everyone like them in ruin.

Slavery was not the driver for the majority of soldiers fighting for the South. Case in point, do you have any idea how many Confederates refused to go Pennsylvania? The common soldier was fighting for his farm really not much else.

Slavery was part of the equation but was not the whole sum as you and others want to pretend as some righteous moral high ground.