(06-30-2020 04:48 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 03:26 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 03:13 PM)tke75hawk Wrote:  That is not good. The viking and bears are good at times but lions have been terrible with all the the 1st round picks they were able to get over the years

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Vikings and Bears have had very good and very bad seasons during that time frame.

Gary- If you want to get down to that level of granularity, let's start looking at some of the other divisions. I'm not saying it's the best division, I'm saying is not as bad as some people (obviously you) think it is. The Bills D has been top 5 in the league for about 5 years now, they play them twice. Pretty sure QB's don't REALLY play against each other, they play against the other teams D. You start looking at wins in/out of the division if you want a true comparison. The Pats beat very good teams outside the division every single year as well(last year was an anomaly).

I don't want it to seem like I'm taking away from anything that the Pats have done. I think it's obvious they would've dominated any division the past 2 decades. However, at the end of the day you have to have good QBs to consistently win in the NFL. There just hasn't been much of that outside of New England in that division. Bills had a long playoffless streak, Dolphins haven't won a playoff game since 2000, the Jets had some decent teams during the Pats run but we all know they're usually bad. I don't get why Pats fans get so defensive over the AFC East, it doesn't take away any of the legitimacy from those Super Bowl Ws. That's just my opinion though.

Probably because we hear it often, and many of the times it's from fans of teams that have had some weak divisions too.