(04-10-2017 11:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 11:00 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 10:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 10:09 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 07:23 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Putin put him in power and keeps him there. Putin runs Chechnya. Either way, he's in control and its more than nominal control. And Ramzan's concentration camp and killings are still going on and are consistent with Russian persecution of LGBT persons.

Putin put him there since he's one of the few idiots that can maintain half-control of the region.

Russian LGBT issues do exist in the major cities, but it takes on a different face and isn't nearly as harsh (although it is rather unacceptable).

This is more of an extremist Muslim thing than a Putin thing. Something should be done about it, but it's hard to define what since you don't want to lose thousands trying to correct the sins against 100. Sanctions have already been in effect for a while now, so that's off the books...

Chechnya is a chithole. Meh.

We can do more. We should do more. Asset seizures, bans on travel for people tied to Putin's genocidal regime, taxes on the FIFA World Cup, etc. We can also put groups materially supportive of Putin's attacks on LGBT persons on the terrorist list and make fundraising for them illegal.

This is real genocide folks. Dachau on the Don.

Wrong.

The solution is to offer refuge for those affected. You cannot change these people. All you can do is try to help others before the reach the same fate. Taking further actions against the Russian state because of something happening in an unstable Islamic region is not good social policy.

Taking a few million away from an oligarch isn't going to save any lives.

But making it impossible for him to travel to Monte Carlo or the Costa Brava is a big deal. What's the point of being an oligarch if you can't enjoy it?

And why are we providing tax free treatment to groups in the US who support Putin's genocidal regime