(12-16-2019 01:24 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 12:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 12:04 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 11:19 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 09:36 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  For all of the people pushing for Olympic sports additions, that will only happen if a VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton and St Louis are paired with Army (FB only).

All other additions from UMass to SDSU and anything in between should be full membership only... The hybrid stuff is part of what killed the BIG EAST teams don't really like being partial members.

Let's stop with the hybrid "killed" the Big East. The teams that left simply got in a more prestigious league and got more money. A lot more money.

The AAC just need to put out the best set of teams that will bring the TV dollars. If that means a hybrid or non-hybrid it doesn't matter to me. Any team will leave with a Big 12 offer. Might as make as much as possible now.

Only people who were not a part of the Big East believe that the hybrid didnt kill it. Those of us who were actually there know the truth.

The reason that some started even looking at other conferences was because the hybrid model kept football from doing what it needed to do.

If we hadnt been a hybrid, then TCU would have been added a year earlier than they were, a TV deal could have been worked out MUCH faster and we would have been under a $13 million a year deal BEFORE the AAC acted.

ESPN would have had the Big East under contract and had no need to help build up the ACC.

Movement would have been minimal... and I dont think there would have been nearly as much of a realignment as what happened.

The long delay that we had to go through to add TCU and to wait for Nova to make up their mind is what kept us from securing our position and locking in a contract.

Yes. But what you seem to also be forgetting is---

1) The Big East utilized a 50-50 basketball to football hybrid structure. Nobody is talking about doing that.

2) The WAC blew up despite everyone in that league being an "all sports" football playing member. The SWC suffered defections and eventually collapsed despite every member being an "all sports" member. Having everyone as "all sports" members is not some magic elixir that inoculates a league from disharmony or collapse.

3) The hybrid structure also allowed the Big East conference to be a power conference in basketball while also being an AQ "power conference" in football for more than two decades---despite not having a single old school blue blood "king pin" program in its ranks. No other power program was like that. The closest the Big East had to a kingpin program was Miami. That said---the "U" was hardly an old money blueblood like Bama or Texas---it was kind of a "new money" program....Furthermore--the league stayed AQ for another decade even AFTER Miami left.

As we dont have a kingpin blue blood program to serve as a P5 anchor for the AAC---we will need to develop differently from most other prior power conferences. When it comes tme to add to the conference, we should have no aversion to utilizing options that will allow us to strengthen football without hurting basketball (and vice versa). if its me running the show----I'd add VCU right now. That replaces much of what was lost with UConn. Football can remain at 11 for now since the loss of UConn football was more of a positive than a negative. Just bide our time at 11 until a suitable full member or football only member becomes available. In other words---we progress and move forward only by adding high quality programs. You dont progress toward power status by adding the ODU's, Charlott's, and UTSA's of the world.

The part regarding the WAC and the SWC is 100% accurate and some of the same members are now in the AAC and are still looking to move on... I think that says a lot of why some conferences will never be stable or sustainable.

The BIG EAST was a power conference in basketball without football... It was the will to add football and that 50-50 power structure that killed the BIG EAST, had the conference done what was best for the conference as a whole it would have been on par with the SEC and the Big 10 with Miami (FL) and Penn State.

Football: (One hell of 12 team football conference)
Boston College
Penn State (Penn State wanted to be part of the BIG EAST)
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Miami (FL)
Rutgers
West Virginia
Virginia Tech
Temple
Notra Dame (With Same deal they now have with ACC)
Cincinnati
Louisville
South Florid
UConn

Basketball: (One hell of 21 team Basketball conference-20 league games)
Boston College
Penn State (Penn State wanted to be part of the BIG EAST)
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Miami (FL)
Rutgers
West Virginia
Virginia Tech
Temple
Notra Dame (With Same deal they now have with ACC)
Cincinnati
Louisville
South Florid
UConn
Georgetown
Providence
St Johns
Seton Hall
Villanova
DePaul*
Marquette*

*Perhaps DePaul and Marquette might not be part of the conference

I like your ambitious take on the Big East/Raycom super conference, but USF football didn't even exist when the Big East was formed and UConn was still FCS. Memphis or East Carolina would make far more sense in the above scenario.