(07-31-2019 10:51 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 10:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 10:36 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 09:30 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-31-2019 09:08 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  Sorry... should I have said "felt that way at the time of the phone call?" Did you listen to the audio? Not great, Bob.
I've never thought that Reagan was racist (I didn't think that his attitudes towards homosexuals was too great). This audio was quite troubling IMO.

I repeat, "Felt that way"? Felt what way? And based upon what?
You are imputing a lot from one stray comment. What he felt was pissed off that the vote had gone that way, and more specifically pissed off by the reaction of certain delegations to the vote. Have you ever played on a football team that lost a game and afterwards somebody said something like, "Damn, I hate losing to those bastards," or, "Damn, I hate watching those bastards celebrate"?

Sure. But I've never gotten so heated that I called black people "monkeys" in disgust. I would bet that nobody here has either. The term "bastards" doesn't come close to using "monkeys" in the way that Reagan did during that conversation. It was pretty ugly. I don't think you can justify this because he was miffed at a UN vote.

Quote:Does that mean that the speaker literally believes that members of that other team were illegitimate children? I doubt it. Yes, I listened to the recording of the phone call, and that's how it struck me.

So you didn't think that what you heard should be considered racist? I'm not saying Reagan's body of work in general but this specific phone call?

Funny you keep repeating a question that was answered. Good fing god. Give it a fing break.

I asked Owl#'s specifically in response to his justification of the phrase. Please see his answer just above.

Where did I justify the phrase? All I have said is that you have tried to take it out of context and extrapolate onto it some kind of meaning that is not justified by the record. That's not justifying the phrase, that's attacking your hyperbolic insinuations.