(01-15-2019 09:08 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 04:56 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 03:36 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  I agree with you that it comes down to sacrifices and priorities... Perhaps it's more of a priority for millennials to get themselves in a secure place romantically and financially before bringing another soul into this world. My SO and I both work 50-60 hour weeks in professional jobs around the DC area. We both make a similar amount of money, so if one of us took a break from work to raise a baby, our income would be slashed in half. I'm in my late 20's so we're currently trying to pay off debts and raise enough money to put a down payment on a house down the road. That said, we're both doing relatively quite well, so we're fortunate for that.

I'm a millennial, but I was also one of six children so I was very much accustomed to hand-me-downs and Kraft dinner. When the day comes that I have kids of my own, I intend to be frugal and try not to spoil them too much. I also believe that no one under the age of 13 ought to have their own smart phone. I'm just so sick of older generations taking pot shots at millenials for being lazy, selfish, or spoiled, or saying that "millennials are ruining [insert failing industry here]". Sure, we have some idiots and a few loose screws, but I firmly believe every generation has had their dead-beats and slackers.

Quote:“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

― Socrates

Perhaps we've seen the divorce rates of the generation that raised us and decided that maybe having children before we're ready isn't such a good idea. At my age now, I'm much more developed as a person, more financially secure, and I think when the time comes, better prepared to raise a kid of my own than I was at 20. That being said, I don't see the point in having six kids of my own some day. It's not the nineteenth century when there was like a 50/50 chance of your kid dying by the age of 5 anymore. Nor do I need a bunch of children to provide a helping hand for my line of work.

I speak as a mid-40s married, childless person.

Painting with a broad brush, admittedly, but I think most/many millenials are misguided on the later in life children thing. Being financially secure is something very few of us ever really are. My parents' were not financially secure when they had me and my three siblings. My dad had a good job. They had a mortgage and car loans in their mid-20s. They made do and slowly pulled ahead, while raising the four of us.

The waiting to start a family until age 30 or more also ignores basic biology, especially on the woman's side. The extended 30s is not as healthy of a time to have a child/children as the mid 20s to 30. The health impacts are to the child and the mother. Consider if one wants to start at 30 and has two years of fertility issues just to get to child #1. Child #2 at 34 and if they want a #3 at 36?

I had a discussion with a friend yesterday where he was mentioning his sons who are closing in on college graduation. They claim to have no idea what they want to do. He told them they need to figure it out. They need to get going because time, in life, is not assured

I really appreciate your comment above on priorities. I think you have that nailed.

Not to mention I had a helluva lot more energy with my first at 29 than I do with my 3rd at 40. I wish I started younger, but didn't find a suitable mate until my late 20s. The wife is now 37 so we are likely done, though we aren't doing anything to stop it.

That's a good point as well. And then there is the issue of them going to college when you are getting close to retirement.

Did 1 liberal Democrat admit that they were married with 1 child on this thread? The ultimate losers of America. Sad but true.

(01-15-2019 10:46 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Did 1 liberal Democrat admit that they were married with 1 child on this thread? The ultimate losers of America. Sad but true.

They don't want children and a portion of them can't procreate due to lifestyle. What's sad is that they want to poison the minds of our children, or worse.