(12-16-2010 03:44 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote: (12-16-2010 03:05 PM)JeffRaider2000 Wrote: Houston isn't going anywhere. They have virtually 0 support from the city, alumni or students. They may be in nations 10th largest TV market but like I said, outside of a few thousand hard care fans, no one cares about UH. They could build Cowboys Stadium on the UH campus and still wouldn't draw more than 20-25K fans( This year was an exception).
Also do you really want to see 20K fans in an empty Reliant Stadium on Saturdays in the fall? IMHO, the cougars need to constantly fill Houston Public High School stadium ( not just 1 year) before they dream about a new stadium.
As far as political climate goes, UH again has very few supporters in the State Leg. When the PAC-10 realignment talks happened during the summer, UH had a few politicians( Houston area politicians) stand up and demand that they be included in the Big 12 who wanted to save face in front of their constituency. UT & A&M haven't kept UH down, the lack of support from the City of Houston is what keeps UH from going to bigger and better places.
As far as Big East expansion is concerned, I think the BE should wait until the Big 12 implodes. They might be able to get Kansas, K-State, Missouri & Baylor. If the BE expands now, I truly believe that UCF & ECU are the best options.
Same old BS. I so am tired of having the burden of proof. You say we have no political power prove it! You say we have no support prove it! If you are going to make statments to that fact back them up. Get of your damn high horse.
I do agree that the Big East does nothing past a possible #10th team until the Big 12 impolodes. On this we can agree.
No problem Coog. Here is the statement that 20 or so Houston area politicians sent out trying to get you included in the Big 12 during this past summers realignment talks.
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball...-12-061710
Nevermind that UH adds nothing to the Big 12. UH doesn't expand our footprint and the Houston TV market is already covered by UT & A&M and to a lesser extent Tx Tech & Baylor.
As far as support goes, just look at your attendance numbers for the last 30 years.
SWC years 1976-1995
1976 35,961 27,451 exc A&M
1977 42,194 30,173 exc UT
1978 39,253 36,028 exc A&M
1979 37,847 34,386 exc UT
1980 33,798 31,253 exc A&M
1981 32,778 28,815 exc UT
1982 30,269 27,062 exc A&M
1983 28,870 24,312 exc UT
1984 27,326 25,971 exc A&M
1985 23,634 20,588 exc UT
1986 15,461 12,257 exc A&M
1987 23,262 20,009 exc UT
1988 23,276 19,459 exc A&M
1989 28,449 24,165 exc UT
1990 26,589 22,879 exc A&M
1991 30,094 25,639 exc UT
1992 22,366 18,297 exc A&M
1993 17,651 15,524 exc UT
1994 21,308 16,589 exc A&M
1995 19,973 16,836 exc UT
SWC 28,018 23,885 exc UT & A&M
C-USA 1996-present
1996 17,551 17,551
1997 19,678 15,184 exc 37K for Cal at the Dome
1998 16,992 16,992
1999 20,003 17,058 exc 31K for UT
2000 15,795 15,795
2001 19,457 19,457
2002 14,986 14,986
2003 21,811 21,811
2004 22,422 19,566 exc 36K for Miami at Reliant
2005 15,054 15,054
2006 21,910 21,910
2007 20,955 20,955
2008 21,518 21,518
2009 25,242 23,867 exc 32K for Tx Tech
C-USA 19,527 18,693
Based on those numbers, it is quite apparent that unless a Big Boy comes to town, the City of Houston, Alumni and Students simply do not support UH with the exception of a few hard core fans.
Please don't bring the 2010 attendance into this discussion because 2010 is the 1st time you have averaged over 30K without the help of UT or A&M since 1980.
Is that enough proof?