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RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - bcat1997 - 01-20-2023 05:01 PM
(01-20-2023 04:27 PM)uchoops Wrote:(01-20-2023 04:18 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:(01-19-2023 10:26 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:(01-19-2023 08:56 AM)uchoops Wrote:(01-19-2023 08:47 AM)bcat1997 Wrote: ya, I don't get the trashing BE either. That conference is pretty solid
NET Rankings
7 7 UConn Big East 15-5 2-4 3-0 10-1 4-4 3-0 2-1 6-0
18 19 Marquette Big East 15-5 3-3 1-1 11-1 3-3 4-2 2-0 6-0
20 21 Creighton Big East 11-8 1-4 2-3 8-1 1-6 4-1 3-1 3-0
22 17 Xavier Big East 15-4 4-1 1-2 10-1 4-2 5-1 0-1 6-0
38 36 Providence Big East 14-5 4-3 0-2 10-0 3-4 1-1 3-0 7-0
61 65 Seton Hall Big East 11-8 3-4 1-2 7-2 3-4 0-3 3-1 5-0
78 78 St. John's (NY) Big East 13-6 1-4 3-0 9-2 1-5 0-1 5-0 7-0
87 86 Butler Big East 11-9 2-4 1-2 8-3 1-7 1-2 3-0 6-0
101 101 Villanova Big East 9-10 2-5 1-3 6-2 0-5 1-2 2-3 6-0
155 167 DePaul Big East 9-10 2-5 0-2 7-3 1-3 0-7 3-0 5-0
250 251 Georgetown Big East 5-14 0-6 1-1 4-7 0-4 0-5 1-3 4-2
Just looking at Providence…ranked 22nd…but who have they beat outside the Big East..no one good…they lost to St Louis and really have no good out of conference wins…yet because of the perception of the Big East they are ranked 22nd..
I mean, many of us have been talking about how the NET Rankings manipulate things to always have "power" conference teams in the Top 100 regardless of how good they actually are for years...it's not rocket science, they have a metric that has no explanation that essentially just allows them to call whoever they want a "good" team and keep power conference teams in the upper quadrants to float everyone.
Nah, their Kenpom rankings are even higher than NET above. BE basketball is strong.
Overrated conference…Villanova got them notice and now they suck…but perception that they are a good conference is still there
It's not perception, it's statistics. Depending on what computer ranking algorithm you like to use they are top 4 both last year and this year.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - bearcatmark - 01-21-2023 02:01 PM
USF putting a beatdown on UCF.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - Coopdaddy67 - 01-21-2023 03:00 PM
TCU up 24 on Kansas and coasting to a win at The Phog.
The Big XII is just an insanely good league.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - bearcatmark - 01-21-2023 03:09 PM
(01-21-2023 03:00 PM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote: TCU up 24 on Kansas and coasting to a win at The Phog.
The Big XII is just an insanely good league.
Pat Forde asked for someone to explain tcu because they lost 3 of 4 then best Kansas. It's not complicated. It's easy to go on a losing streak when your conference has 9 of the best 30 teams in the country.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - bearcatmark - 01-21-2023 05:27 PM
Ucla really Micked it up against Arizona. Grinding the game to a halt. Nothing in transition. Offense was a lot of late shot clock isoball. Though ucla has the guys to convert late iso ball, they didn't today. Arizona wants to be in transition, but couldn't. Didn't matter. Honestly, Arizona should probably slow down. They can still play at a fast tempo but don't need to be breakneck. They defended really well today despite being bad on that end all year.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - BearcatMan - 01-22-2023 05:13 PM
Temple beats Houston in the Fritata...guess I was wrong about the Owls. Probably going to be Hpuston, Memphis, and Temple heading to the dance.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - rath v2.0 - 01-22-2023 05:17 PM
As if Houston on their court wouldn't be fabulous enough.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - Bruce Monnin - 01-22-2023 05:31 PM
(01-21-2023 05:27 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: Ucla really Micked it up against Arizona. Grinding the game to a halt. Nothing in transition. Offense was a lot of late shot clock isoball. Though ucla has the guys to convert late iso ball, they didn't today. Arizona wants to be in transition, but couldn't. Didn't matter. Honestly, Arizona should probably slow down. They can still play at a fast tempo but don't need to be breakneck. They defended really well today despite being bad on that end all year.
"Micked it up." Love it.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - BearcatMan - 01-22-2023 07:15 PM
(01-22-2023 05:17 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: As if Houston on their court wouldn't be fabulous enough.
I'm taking Houston at any line lol.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - OKIcat - 01-23-2023 08:38 AM
(01-22-2023 05:13 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: Temple beats Houston in the Fritata...guess I was wrong about the Owls. Probably going to be Hpuston, Memphis, and Temple heading to the dance.
So much for UC catching Houston napping against an overmatched opponent this Sunday for UC's sole CBS network televised game in '23.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - bearcatmark - 01-23-2023 01:54 PM
(01-23-2023 08:38 AM)OKIcat Wrote:(01-22-2023 05:13 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: Temple beats Houston in the Fritata...guess I was wrong about the Owls. Probably going to be Hpuston, Memphis, and Temple heading to the dance.
So much for UC catching Houston napping against an overmatched opponent this Sunday for UC's sole CBS network televised game in '23.
Houston does have a game on Wednesday. Hopefully UCF is the team that feels their wrath.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - geef - 01-24-2023 08:14 PM
Emoni Bates just scored 29 straight points for Eastern Michigan, all in the first half. That's unheard of.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - BearcatMan - 01-24-2023 10:08 PM
(01-24-2023 08:14 PM)geef Wrote: Emoni Bates just scored 29 straight points for Eastern Michigan, all in the first half. That's unheard of.
43 points overall and they still lost to Toledo.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - Cat_Litter - 01-24-2023 10:25 PM
(01-24-2023 10:08 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:(01-24-2023 08:14 PM)geef Wrote: Emoni Bates just scored 29 straight points for Eastern Michigan, all in the first half. That's unheard of.
43 points overall and they still lost to Toledo.
That was a crazy up and down game.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - cmhcat - 01-25-2023 06:49 AM
(01-24-2023 08:14 PM)geef Wrote: Emoni Bates just scored 29 straight points for Eastern Michigan, all in the first half. That's unheard of.
Shades of George Gervin.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - BearcatMan - 01-25-2023 07:23 AM
(01-24-2023 10:25 PM)Cat_Litter Wrote:(01-24-2023 10:08 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:(01-24-2023 08:14 PM)geef Wrote: Emoni Bates just scored 29 straight points for Eastern Michigan, all in the first half. That's unheard of.
43 points overall and they still lost to Toledo.
That was a crazy up and down game.
Most Toledo games are...they are not fans of defense and have two guys shooting 50+/40+/80+ slashes this season with another two shooting 45+/35+/75+ slashes.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - BrooklynRocket - 01-25-2023 12:02 PM
Had no idea how bad EMU was this season.
Thought they were going to be decent when they had a high-scoring thriller with Michigan in Downtown Detroit at the start of the season.
Now they're #332 in NET (up 9 spots after losing to Toledo by 5).
Makes you wonder if that was Bates' truly best/only option for this season.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - BearcatMan - 01-25-2023 01:58 PM
(01-25-2023 12:02 PM)BrooklynRocket Wrote: Had no idea how bad EMU was this season.
Thought they were going to be decent when they had a high-scoring thriller with Michigan in Downtown Detroit at the start of the season.
Now they're #332 in NET (up 9 spots after losing to Toledo by 5).
Makes you wonder if that was Bates' truly best/only option for this season.
That's what everyone I know who would have any fingers on the pulse of the situation (EMU Athletics Staff, AAU basketball contacts, MAC contacts) seem to think. Dude is more toxic than a carrot from Chernobyl and his dad is even worse.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - UCGrad1992 - 01-25-2023 09:27 PM
UConn loses at home to Eggs dropping 4 out of their last 5 and 6 of 10. This team was 14-0 [3-0] and ranked #2 AP at the end of December. What happened? I don't follow the Big East but UConn fans have to be shiiting their pants right now.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - vabearcat - 01-25-2023 11:11 PM
UConn played well tonight but Eggs played better. Eggs has an offense that is as good as anybody’s. 3-point shooting, passing, offensive rebounding and shooting accuracy are outstanding. Souley Boome is possibly the POY in the Big East and likely a 2nd or 3rd Team All American. He’s a difference maker and makes them a serious threat in the NCAA Tournament.