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(01-16-2023 07:44 PM)levydl Wrote:  

(01-16-2023 05:46 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(01-16-2023 01:48 PM)levydl Wrote:  

(01-16-2023 01:10 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(01-14-2023 10:31 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  He'll get to retire...WVU would never can him. He's almost certainly going to pull the "I wasn't built for the new college basketball" card.

I don't think that's even a "card" for Huggs. I think that's reality. The NIL era has got to be killing old school guys like Bob who recruited on the premise that if you play for him all you'll get is a pair of sneakers and a hard time. Paying off teenagers to come play for you, and then watching them come in with a conceited attitude because they feel they're special, has never been in Huggs repertoire.

Oh please, there were primadonnas in college hoops long before Huggs got his start or players started to get a little bit of money.

It's the options that have changed - transfer portal and NIL in particular. As just one example, I recall Erik Martin saying not long ago that he'd have hit the portal if it was available when he played under Huggs at UC. Yet, we all know Erik Martin ultimately became a longtime assistant coach for Huggs.

I think it's been a factor in some of the very successful long-term HCs stepping down.

Yep, and the coaches before them lamented when freshmen became eligible. You always hear this same stuff about how entitled players are now whenever the players get any sort of power or options in college hoops.

That was literally over 50 years ago. If you don't think the game has changed a lot since then including in the last few years I'm not sure what to tell you. Believe what you want I guess.

I'm starting to think the college basketball national champion will come from one of these 5 teams:

Houston
UCLA
Alabama
Purdue
Kansas

UConn has the kenpom profile, but I just don't trust them. Every other team has a pretty big flaw on offense or defense.

(01-18-2023 11:21 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I'm starting to think the college basketball national champion will come from one of these 5 teams:

Houston
UCLA
Alabama
Purdue
Kansas

UConn has the kenpom profile, but I just don't trust them. Every other team has a pretty big flaw on offense or defense.

You can remove Purdue. They always choke. ALWAYS.

(01-18-2023 11:23 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 11:21 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I'm starting to think the college basketball national champion will come from one of these 5 teams:

Houston
UCLA
Alabama
Purdue
Kansas

UConn has the kenpom profile, but I just don't trust them. Every other team has a pretty big flaw on offense or defense.

You can remove Purdue. They always choke. ALWAYS.

You also told me Indiana was better than Purdue and that you'd take Jackson-Davis (a great player) over Edey (far and away the best player in college basketball right now).

(01-18-2023 11:26 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 11:23 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 11:21 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I'm starting to think the college basketball national champion will come from one of these 5 teams:

Houston
UCLA
Alabama
Purdue
Kansas

UConn has the kenpom profile, but I just don't trust them. Every other team has a pretty big flaw on offense or defense.

You can remove Purdue. They always choke. ALWAYS.

You also told me Indiana was better than Purdue and that you'd take Jackson-Davis (a great player) over Edey (far and away the best player in college basketball right now).

Well, let's see...

TJD has been out or playing hurt with a back injury and they've also been without their point guard Johnson and best defender Thompson.

That's probably going to affect the team performance.

Doesn't matter. What is Purdue without the jolly green giant in there? Loyer's kid??? Come on. They'll get up against somebody with real guards and Edey will never see the ball.

Looked at the rankings. Whats the story with UK this year? 6 losses not ranked in top 25

(01-18-2023 12:32 PM)BearcatDave Wrote:  Looked at the rankings. Whats the story with UK this year? 6 losses not ranked in top 25

Moderately tough schedule and a team that isn't really a contender. It's a team that is probably a 7-10 seed when it's all said and done. Calipari also should play CJ Fredrick more.

I could see them coming on strong. They still have plenty of talent.

(01-18-2023 12:36 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 12:32 PM)BearcatDave Wrote:  Looked at the rankings. Whats the story with UK this year? 6 losses not ranked in top 25

Moderately tough schedule and a team that isn't really a contender. It's a team that is probably a 7-10 seed when it's all said and done. Calipari also should play CJ Fredrick more.

I could see them coming on strong. They still have plenty of talent.

They have had two big wins in a row.

(01-18-2023 12:32 PM)BearcatDave Wrote:  Looked at the rankings. Whats the story with UK this year? 6 losses not ranked in top 25

Kentucky has tons of talent, all of who want to display their skills to NBA scouts more than they wan to play team basketball.

It is a team that could collapse, or they could pull it together at tournament time and contender for it all (not likely, but I think possible, at least for a Final Four run).

(01-18-2023 12:36 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 12:32 PM)BearcatDave Wrote:  Looked at the rankings. Whats the story with UK this year? 6 losses not ranked in top 25

Moderately tough schedule and a team that isn't really a contender. It's a team that is probably a 7-10 seed when it's all said and done. Calipari also should play CJ Fredrick more.

I could see them coming on strong. They still have plenty of talent.

Should've just come home instead...

it's been fun tracking the progression of uconn's precipitous decline. the rivalry was fun and it made sense why they left but his isn't the old big east they're going back to, which outside of providence and marquette that conference is all kinds of gross. get marquette back on the schedule coach

Louisville is now 290th in Kenpom after tonight’s home loss.

For reference Mick’s first team finished 141st in 06-07.

Historically bad.

(01-18-2023 09:35 PM)Lush Wrote:  it's been fun tracking the progression of uconn's precipitous decline. the rivalry was fun and it made sense why they left but his isn't the old big east they're going back to, which outside of providence and marquette that conference is all kinds of gross. get marquette back on the schedule coach

"Precipitous Decline"

Huh.
UConn went to a Bowl Game for the first time in recent memory.
The Big East is a superior conference by any measure than the AACk!
The men's BB team has been ranked as high as #2 this season.

Most programs could only hope to suffer such a "precipitous decline."

Eggzavier lost at DePaul 73-72.

(01-18-2023 10:36 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 09:35 PM)Lush Wrote:  it's been fun tracking the progression of uconn's precipitous decline. the rivalry was fun and it made sense why they left but his isn't the old big east they're going back to, which outside of providence and marquette that conference is all kinds of gross. get marquette back on the schedule coach

"Precipitous Decline"

Huh.
UConn went to a Bowl Game for the first time in recent memory.
The Big East is a superior conference by any measure than the AACk!
The men's BB team has been ranked as high as #2 this season.

Most programs could only hope to suffer such a "precipitous decline."

They have lost 5 out of 6 games and are coming back to reality hard. UConn football was 6-7. They have not had a winning season since 2010. Losing records every season. No single fan base would wish for this.

(01-18-2023 10:36 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 09:35 PM)Lush Wrote:  it's been fun tracking the progression of uconn's precipitous decline. the rivalry was fun and it made sense why they left but his isn't the old big east they're going back to, which outside of providence and marquette that conference is all kinds of gross. get marquette back on the schedule coach

"Precipitous Decline"

Huh.
UConn went to a Bowl Game for the first time in recent memory.
The Big East is a superior conference by any measure than the AACk!
The men's BB team has been ranked as high as #2 this season.

Most programs could only hope to suffer such a "precipitous decline."

I don't know......I think if my athletic department decided to nuke the football program just for the privilege of playing Villanova and Providence in basketball, I'd be kinda' pissed...Even with all the body bag football games they now schedule, they still operated at a $53 million deficit last year. I believe Connecticut stepped all over their pud when they opted to go independent in football. State flagship public school in a league with all them small private schools? St.UCONN would be getting ready to start collecting BIG12 money next fall if they had stayed the course in the AAC.

(01-19-2023 06:33 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Eggzavier lost at DePaul 73-72.

Time for their annual collapse

(01-18-2023 10:36 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 09:35 PM)Lush Wrote:  it's been fun tracking the progression of uconn's precipitous decline. the rivalry was fun and it made sense why they left but his isn't the old big east they're going back to, which outside of providence and marquette that conference is all kinds of gross. get marquette back on the schedule coach

"Precipitous Decline"

Huh.
UConn went to a Bowl Game for the first time in recent memory.
The Big East is a superior conference by any measure than the AACk!
The men's BB team has been ranked as high as #2 this season.

Most programs could only hope to suffer such a "precipitous decline."

ya, I don't get the trashing BE either. That conference is pretty solid
NET Rankings
7 7 UConn Big East 15-5 2-4 3-0 10-1 4-4 3-0 2-1 6-0
18 19 Marquette Big East 15-5 3-3 1-1 11-1 3-3 4-2 2-0 6-0
20 21 Creighton Big East 11-8 1-4 2-3 8-1 1-6 4-1 3-1 3-0
22 17 Xavier Big East 15-4 4-1 1-2 10-1 4-2 5-1 0-1 6-0
38 36 Providence Big East 14-5 4-3 0-2 10-0 3-4 1-1 3-0 7-0
61 65 Seton Hall Big East 11-8 3-4 1-2 7-2 3-4 0-3 3-1 5-0
78 78 St. John's (NY) Big East 13-6 1-4 3-0 9-2 1-5 0-1 5-0 7-0
87 86 Butler Big East 11-9 2-4 1-2 8-3 1-7 1-2 3-0 6-0
101 101 Villanova Big East 9-10 2-5 1-3 6-2 0-5 1-2 2-3 6-0
155 167 DePaul Big East 9-10 2-5 0-2 7-3 1-3 0-7 3-0 5-0
250 251 Georgetown Big East 5-14 0-6 1-1 4-7 0-4 0-5 1-3 4-2

(01-19-2023 07:54 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(01-19-2023 06:33 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Eggzavier lost at DePaul 73-72.

Time for their annual collapse

Different coach. Doubt if that happens this year.

(01-19-2023 08:47 AM)bcat1997 Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 10:36 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(01-18-2023 09:35 PM)Lush Wrote:  it's been fun tracking the progression of uconn's precipitous decline. the rivalry was fun and it made sense why they left but his isn't the old big east they're going back to, which outside of providence and marquette that conference is all kinds of gross. get marquette back on the schedule coach

"Precipitous Decline"

Huh.
UConn went to a Bowl Game for the first time in recent memory.
The Big East is a superior conference by any measure than the AACk!
The men's BB team has been ranked as high as #2 this season.

Most programs could only hope to suffer such a "precipitous decline."

ya, I don't get the trashing BE either. That conference is pretty solid
NET Rankings
7 7 UConn Big East 15-5 2-4 3-0 10-1 4-4 3-0 2-1 6-0
18 19 Marquette Big East 15-5 3-3 1-1 11-1 3-3 4-2 2-0 6-0
20 21 Creighton Big East 11-8 1-4 2-3 8-1 1-6 4-1 3-1 3-0
22 17 Xavier Big East 15-4 4-1 1-2 10-1 4-2 5-1 0-1 6-0
38 36 Providence Big East 14-5 4-3 0-2 10-0 3-4 1-1 3-0 7-0
61 65 Seton Hall Big East 11-8 3-4 1-2 7-2 3-4 0-3 3-1 5-0
78 78 St. John's (NY) Big East 13-6 1-4 3-0 9-2 1-5 0-1 5-0 7-0
87 86 Butler Big East 11-9 2-4 1-2 8-3 1-7 1-2 3-0 6-0
101 101 Villanova Big East 9-10 2-5 1-3 6-2 0-5 1-2 2-3 6-0
155 167 DePaul Big East 9-10 2-5 0-2 7-3 1-3 0-7 3-0 5-0
250 251 Georgetown Big East 5-14 0-6 1-1 4-7 0-4 0-5 1-3 4-2

Big East is strong by NET. Hopefully those teams will be seeded to reflect that, because I can't wait to go against them in the tournament. It's a solid conference, but I don't think any of those teams are actually as good as their NET's except maybe Creighton who seems to have figured some things out and has had some bad luck early in the year.