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Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - Hokie4Skins - 01-18-2022 12:25 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-engaged-in-plans-to-split-into-two-seven-team-divisions-beginning-in-2023-amid-realignment/
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - Crayton - 01-18-2022 12:30 PM
Neat. I'm guessing they'll try and group teams by their eventual 12-team alignment and just stick Texas and Oklahoma into separate divisions.
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - Nerdlinger - 01-18-2022 12:34 PM
(01-18-2022 12:30 PM)Crayton Wrote: Neat. I'm guessing they'll try and group teams by their eventual 12-team alignment and just stick Texas and Oklahoma into separate divisions.
Presumably like this then:
East: Central Florida, Cincinnati, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Texas, West Virginia
West: Baylor, BYU, Houston, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas Tech
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - Dr Dawgma III - 01-18-2022 12:41 PM
I’ll play
BYU
Texas Tech
TCU
Texas
Baylor
Houston
Iowa St.
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Kansas
Kansas St.
Cincinnati
West Virginia
UCF
Keep the OU Texas matchup as the lone crossover.
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - solohawks - 01-18-2022 12:43 PM
They could be real jerks and put them in separate divisions and not let them play.
TV would have a cow and it would be incredibly petty but I guess they have the ability
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - Nerdlinger - 01-18-2022 12:45 PM
(01-18-2022 12:43 PM)solohawks Wrote: They could be real jerks and put them in separate divisions and not let them play.
TV would have a cow and it would be incredibly petty but I guess they have the ability
Nah, they'll get a protected crossover.
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - PeteTheChop - 01-18-2022 12:45 PM
Wonder if Ol' Bob has cooked up a contingency plan if OUT's get out of jail card is activated before the 2023 football season?
Invite Memphis and USF and keep it moving?
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - Sactowndog - 01-18-2022 12:45 PM
(01-18-2022 12:34 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:(01-18-2022 12:30 PM)Crayton Wrote: Neat. I'm guessing they'll try and group teams by their eventual 12-team alignment and just stick Texas and Oklahoma into separate divisions.
Presumably like this then:
East: Central Florida, Cincinnati, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Texas, West Virginia
West: Baylor, BYU, Houston, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas Tech
Or the Kansas schools may want to stay west. It could be
East: Central Florida, Cincinnati, West Virginia, Iowa State, Houston, Baylor, Texas
West: Texas Tech, TCU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, BYU, Kansas, Kansas State
These splits are always super messy.
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - RUScarlets - 01-18-2022 12:45 PM
(01-18-2022 12:43 PM)solohawks Wrote: They could be real jerks and put them in separate divisions and not let them play.
TV would have a cow and it would be incredibly petty but I guess they have the ability
Why would they do this???
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - solohawks - 01-18-2022 12:52 PM
(01-18-2022 12:45 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:(01-18-2022 12:43 PM)solohawks Wrote: They could be real jerks and put them in separate divisions and not let them play.
TV would have a cow and it would be incredibly petty but I guess they have the ability
Why would they do this???
To be petty
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - Gamenole - 01-18-2022 12:53 PM
(01-18-2022 12:45 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:(01-18-2022 12:34 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:(01-18-2022 12:30 PM)Crayton Wrote: Neat. I'm guessing they'll try and group teams by their eventual 12-team alignment and just stick Texas and Oklahoma into separate divisions.
Presumably like this then:
East: Central Florida, Cincinnati, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Texas, West Virginia
West: Baylor, BYU, Houston, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas Tech
Or the Kansas schools may want to stay west. It could be
East: Central Florida, Cincinnati, West Virginia, Iowa State, Houston, Baylor, Texas
West: Texas Tech, TCU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, BYU, Kansas, Kansas State
These splits are always super messy.
I think it will be something like this, the non-Texas schools are going to want annual exposure in Texas for recruiting purposes.
(01-18-2022 12:45 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:(01-18-2022 12:43 PM)solohawks Wrote: They could be real jerks and put them in separate divisions and not let them play.
TV would have a cow and it would be incredibly petty but I guess they have the ability
Why would they do this???
For pure spite! Of course Texas & Oklahoma could always play a non-conference game against each other, like UNC & Wake did this past season.
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - Crayton - 01-18-2022 12:53 PM
(01-18-2022 12:52 PM)solohawks Wrote:(01-18-2022 12:45 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:(01-18-2022 12:43 PM)solohawks Wrote: They could be real jerks and put them in separate divisions and not let them play.
TV would have a cow and it would be incredibly petty but I guess they have the ability
Why would they do this???
To be petty
The only thing stopping them may be (1) decorum and (2) if OU-UT have a signed contract with the Texas State Fair.
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - Nerdlinger - 01-18-2022 12:54 PM
(01-18-2022 12:45 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote: Wonder if Ol' Bob has cooked up a contingency plan if OUT's get out of jail card is activated before the 2023 football season?
Invite Memphis and USF and keep it moving?
While I don't think Memphis and USF are getting invites without further losses, if they were, then it would make sense to put both OU and UT in the East.
East: Central Florida, Cincinnati, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Texas, West Virginia
West: Baylor, BYU, Iowa State, Houston, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas Tech
And in that case OU and OSU get a protected crossover.
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - shizzle787 - 01-18-2022 12:55 PM
Key take-aways:
1. They don’t plan on OU and TX leaving before 2025.
2. They plan on the four additions joining in 2023.
3. They plan on a 9-game football schedule.
4. They plan on an 18-game basketball schedule (surprising).
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - IWokeUpLikeThis - 01-18-2022 12:57 PM
Now we know what Jim Phillips was referring to.
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - Nerdlinger - 01-18-2022 12:59 PM
(01-18-2022 12:57 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: Now we know what Jim Phillips was referring to.
Except this was already expected, so no, unless he meant to be pedantic.
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - Dr Dawgma III - 01-18-2022 01:01 PM
Doesn’t seem super complicated to me.
Rivalry Week:
BYU-Iowa St.
Texas Tech-TCU
Baylor-Houston
Cincinnati-WVU
Kansas-Kansas St.
*Oklahoma St.-UCF
* I guarantee Oklahoma starts playing Mizzou Rivalry Week. Bedlam yearly:
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - RUScarlets - 01-18-2022 01:10 PM
(01-18-2022 12:53 PM)Gamenole Wrote: For pure spite! Of course Texas & Oklahoma could always play a non-conference game against each other, like UNC & Wake did this past season.
But how does it benefit the conference financially in the interim?
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - dbackjon - 01-18-2022 01:15 PM
Division 1
West Virginia
UCF
Cincinnati
Houston
Oklahoma
Texas
BYU
Division II
Texas Tech
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
Iowa State
TCU
Baylor
RE: Dennis Dodd: Big 12 planning to split into two seven-team divisions for 2023 - jimrtex - 01-18-2022 01:17 PM
(01-18-2022 12:55 PM)shizzle787 Wrote: Key take-aways:I think TCU and Kansas will want to be in the same division as Texas, so TCU is more likely to bowl qualify, and Kansas not go winless.
1. They don’t plan on OU and TX leaving before 2025.
2. They plan on the four additions joining in 2023.
3. They plan on a 9-game football schedule.
4. They plan on an 18-game basketball schedule (surprising).
I'd think you'd want the three eastern teams together, and the three Midwest schools together, and the four Texas schools together.
So that would be: UCF, WVU, and Cincinnati; ISU, K-State, and KU.
Houston, Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, OSU, and BYU.
Then for two seasons:
So that would be: UCF, WVU, and Cincinnati; ISU, K-State, and KU. Oklahoma
Houston, Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, OSU, and BYU. Texas
The Big 12 championship can be a rematch of the AAC championship.
Since there will be three cross-overs, OU can play OSU and Texas.
Then in the future, replace OU with Memphis, and Texas with Boise State.