(08-09-2023 04:11 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  

(08-09-2023 03:32 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  The Aggies win the lottery by snagging their 15th transfer out of the portal-- yes, you read that correctly, and this time they land the cream of the crop, Stanford's two-way all-american, Brandon Montgomery. I guess the Aggies have the NIL to beat out LSU and Montgomery's hometown Mississippi State.

Curious as to what the NIL deal was? High 6 figures or, dare I say, 7? The only reason he would leave a top tier program like Stanford to go to College Station is money IMO.

(08-09-2023 10:51 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(08-09-2023 04:11 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  

(08-09-2023 03:32 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  The Aggies win the lottery by snagging their 15th transfer out of the portal-- yes, you read that correctly, and this time they land the cream of the crop, Stanford's two-way all-american, Brandon Montgomery. I guess the Aggies have the NIL to beat out LSU and Montgomery's hometown Mississippi State.

Curious as to what the NIL deal was? High 6 figures or, dare I say, 7? The only reason he would leave a top tier program like Stanford to go to College Station is money IMO.

Apparently A&M was concerned that their open NIL fund needed some restraints.
https://twitter.com/skhanjr/status/1689351832735297536?s=61&t=TkC0pBh94YirWX6HIUMFtA


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/college/article/aggies-nix-12th-man-plus-nil-fund-irs-18287862.php

(08-10-2023 10:36 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-09-2023 10:51 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(08-09-2023 04:11 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  

(08-09-2023 03:32 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  The Aggies win the lottery by snagging their 15th transfer out of the portal-- yes, you read that correctly, and this time they land the cream of the crop, Stanford's two-way all-american, Brandon Montgomery. I guess the Aggies have the NIL to beat out LSU and Montgomery's hometown Mississippi State.

Curious as to what the NIL deal was? High 6 figures or, dare I say, 7? The only reason he would leave a top tier program like Stanford to go to College Station is money IMO.

Apparently A&M was concerned that their open NIL fund needed some restraints.
https://twitter.com/skhanjr/status/1689351832735297536?s=61&t=TkC0pBh94YirWX6HIUMFtA


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/college/article/aggies-nix-12th-man-plus-nil-fund-irs-18287862.php

A&M added in the release, “This decision does not prevent the 12th Man Foundation from supporting NIL opportunities for Aggie student-athletes. As part of its altered approach, the organization plans to support NIL opportunities for Aggie student-athletes by expanding its marketing outreach using unrestricted annual fund contributions.

“Supporters who have contributed to the 12th Man+ Fund will be contacted directly by 12th Man Foundation staff with their options including ways to redirect their contribution and continue investing in the student-athlete experience at Texas A&M.”

The more things change the more they stay the same?

(08-10-2023 10:51 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 10:36 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-09-2023 10:51 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(08-09-2023 04:11 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  

(08-09-2023 03:32 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  The Aggies win the lottery by snagging their 15th transfer out of the portal-- yes, you read that correctly, and this time they land the cream of the crop, Stanford's two-way all-american, Brandon Montgomery. I guess the Aggies have the NIL to beat out LSU and Montgomery's hometown Mississippi State.

Curious as to what the NIL deal was? High 6 figures or, dare I say, 7? The only reason he would leave a top tier program like Stanford to go to College Station is money IMO.

Apparently A&M was concerned that their open NIL fund needed some restraints.
https://twitter.com/skhanjr/status/1689351832735297536?s=61&t=TkC0pBh94YirWX6HIUMFtA


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/college/article/aggies-nix-12th-man-plus-nil-fund-irs-18287862.php

A&M added in the release, “This decision does not prevent the 12th Man Foundation from supporting NIL opportunities for Aggie student-athletes. As part of its altered approach, the organization plans to support NIL opportunities for Aggie student-athletes by expanding its marketing outreach using unrestricted annual fund contributions.

“Supporters who have contributed to the 12th Man+ Fund will be contacted directly by 12th Man Foundation staff with their options including ways to redirect their contribution and continue investing in the student-athlete experience at Texas A&M.”

The more things change the more they stay the same?

I asked an Aggie buddy what's different? He said the 12th Man + was pitched as tax deductible since it was going through the 12th Man Foundation (Owl Club on steroids). He thinks such NIL related donations will no longer be considered tax deductible.

(08-10-2023 11:33 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 10:51 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 10:36 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-09-2023 10:51 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(08-09-2023 04:11 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  Curious as to what the NIL deal was? High 6 figures or, dare I say, 7? The only reason he would leave a top tier program like Stanford to go to College Station is money IMO.

Apparently A&M was concerned that their open NIL fund needed some restraints.
https://twitter.com/skhanjr/status/1689351832735297536?s=61&t=TkC0pBh94YirWX6HIUMFtA


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/college/article/aggies-nix-12th-man-plus-nil-fund-irs-18287862.php

A&M added in the release, “This decision does not prevent the 12th Man Foundation from supporting NIL opportunities for Aggie student-athletes. As part of its altered approach, the organization plans to support NIL opportunities for Aggie student-athletes by expanding its marketing outreach using unrestricted annual fund contributions.

“Supporters who have contributed to the 12th Man+ Fund will be contacted directly by 12th Man Foundation staff with their options including ways to redirect their contribution and continue investing in the student-athlete experience at Texas A&M.”

The more things change the more they stay the same?

I asked an Aggie buddy what's different? He said the 12th Man + was pitched as tax deductible since it was going through the 12th Man Foundation (Owl Club on steroids). He thinks such NIL related donations will no longer be considered tax deductible.

What? Money laundering is illegal?

Aggies...

(08-10-2023 12:13 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 11:33 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 10:51 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 10:36 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  [quote='Tiki Owl' pid='19069561' dateline='1691639466']

Apparently A&M was concerned that their open NIL fund needed some restraints.
https://twitter.com/skhanjr/status/1689351832735297536?s=61&t=TkC0pBh94YirWX6HIUMFtA


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/college/article/aggies-nix-12th-man-plus-nil-fund-irs-18287862.php

A&M added in the release, “This decision does not prevent the 12th Man Foundation from supporting NIL opportunities for Aggie student-athletes. As part of its altered approach, the organization plans to support NIL opportunities for Aggie student-athletes by expanding its marketing outreach using unrestricted annual fund contributions.

“Supporters who have contributed to the 12th Man+ Fund will be contacted directly by 12th Man Foundation staff with their options including ways to redirect their contribution and continue investing in the student-athlete experience at Texas A&M.”

The more things change the more they stay the same?

I asked an Aggie buddy what's different? He said the 12th Man + was pitched as tax deductible since it was going through the 12th Man Foundation (Owl Club on steroids). He thinks such NIL related donations will no longer be considered tax deductible.

What? Money laundering is illegal?

Aggies...

Money laundering? That’s a stretch.

Quote:Whatever is wrong with the various NIL schemes out there is not limited to the Aggies.

(08-10-2023 11:03 AM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote:  In concept, the school is not supposed to be involved with the NIL cooperatives. There is not supposed to be a quid pro quo with the NIL funds (i.e.."go to A&M and we'll pay you $$$$"). It was fairly well known that A&M was probably exceeding the speed limit on their practices.

(08-10-2023 12:31 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 12:13 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 11:33 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 10:51 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 10:36 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  [quote='Tiki Owl' pid='19069561' dateline='1691639466']

Apparently A&M was concerned that their open NIL fund needed some restraints.
https://twitter.com/skhanjr/status/1689351832735297536?s=61&t=TkC0pBh94YirWX6HIUMFtA


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/college/article/aggies-nix-12th-man-plus-nil-fund-irs-18287862.php

A&M added in the release, “This decision does not prevent the 12th Man Foundation from supporting NIL opportunities for Aggie student-athletes. As part of its altered approach, the organization plans to support NIL opportunities for Aggie student-athletes by expanding its marketing outreach using unrestricted annual fund contributions.

“Supporters who have contributed to the 12th Man+ Fund will be contacted directly by 12th Man Foundation staff with their options including ways to redirect their contribution and continue investing in the student-athlete experience at Texas A&M.”

The more things change the more they stay the same?

I asked an Aggie buddy what's different? He said the 12th Man + was pitched as tax deductible since it was going through the 12th Man Foundation (Owl Club on steroids). He thinks such NIL related donations will no longer be considered tax deductible.

What? Money laundering is illegal?

Aggies...

Money laundering? That’s a stretch.

I was being facetious... maybe the technical term for labeling payola as charitable contributions isn't "money laundering"...

Quote:Whatever is wrong with the various NIL schemes out there is not limited to the Aggies.

Yes, but they're the Aggies. How tedious that it's no longer ok to poke fun at the Aggies on a Rice forum. Makes me feel old.

(08-10-2023 01:57 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 12:31 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 12:13 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 11:33 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 10:51 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  A&M added in the release, “This decision does not prevent the 12th Man Foundation from supporting NIL opportunities for Aggie student-athletes. As part of its altered approach, the organization plans to support NIL opportunities for Aggie student-athletes by expanding its marketing outreach using unrestricted annual fund contributions.

“Supporters who have contributed to the 12th Man+ Fund will be contacted directly by 12th Man Foundation staff with their options including ways to redirect their contribution and continue investing in the student-athlete experience at Texas A&M.”

The more things change the more they stay the same?

I asked an Aggie buddy what's different? He said the 12th Man + was pitched as tax deductible since it was going through the 12th Man Foundation (Owl Club on steroids). He thinks such NIL related donations will no longer be considered tax deductible.

What? Money laundering is illegal?

Aggies...

Money laundering? That’s a stretch.

I was being facetious... maybe the technical term for labeling payola as charitable contributions isn't "money laundering"...

Quote:Whatever is wrong with the various NIL schemes out there is not limited to the Aggies.

Yes, but they're the Aggies. How tedious that it's no longer ok to poke fun at the Aggies on a Rice forum. Makes me feel old.

Thanks for the clarification, but poking fun does not equal making false claims of illegal activity. The Ags provide plenty of material for legitimate fun poking.

(08-10-2023 02:57 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 01:57 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 12:31 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 12:13 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 11:33 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  I asked an Aggie buddy what's different? He said the 12th Man + was pitched as tax deductible since it was going through the 12th Man Foundation (Owl Club on steroids). He thinks such NIL related donations will no longer be considered tax deductible.

What? Money laundering is illegal?

Aggies...

Money laundering? That’s a stretch.

I was being facetious... maybe the technical term for labeling payola as charitable contributions isn't "money laundering"...

Quote:Whatever is wrong with the various NIL schemes out there is not limited to the Aggies.

Yes, but they're the Aggies. How tedious that it's no longer ok to poke fun at the Aggies on a Rice forum. Makes me feel old.

Thanks for the clarification, but poking fun does not equal making false claims of illegal activity. The Ags provide plenty of material for legitimate fun poking.

Umm...claiming a tax deduction for something that isn't tax-deductible is, in fact, an illegal activity. Even an Aggie should know that. Good for them that they got it sorted out before anyone made that mistake.

(08-10-2023 04:20 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 02:57 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 01:57 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 12:31 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 12:13 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  What? Money laundering is illegal?

Aggies...

Money laundering? That’s a stretch.

I was being facetious... maybe the technical term for labeling payola as charitable contributions isn't "money laundering"...

Quote:Whatever is wrong with the various NIL schemes out there is not limited to the Aggies.

Yes, but they're the Aggies. How tedious that it's no longer ok to poke fun at the Aggies on a Rice forum. Makes me feel old.

Thanks for the clarification, but poking fun does not equal making false claims of illegal activity. The Ags provide plenty of material for legitimate fun poking.

Umm...claiming a tax deduction for something that isn't tax-deductible is, in fact, an illegal activity. Even an Aggie should know that. Good for them that they got it sorted out before anyone made that mistake.

Good deflect. You accused them of money laundering.

If the story I got is accurate, it sounds like their attorneys changed their minds on the tax deductibility of 12th Man+ donations. Good thing that's never happened before or many of us would have issues as well.

(08-10-2023 04:20 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 02:57 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 01:57 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 12:31 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 12:13 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  What? Money laundering is illegal?

Aggies...

Money laundering? That’s a stretch.

I was being facetious... maybe the technical term for labeling payola as charitable contributions isn't "money laundering"...

Quote:Whatever is wrong with the various NIL schemes out there is not limited to the Aggies.

Yes, but they're the Aggies. How tedious that it's no longer ok to poke fun at the Aggies on a Rice forum. Makes me feel old.

Thanks for the clarification, but poking fun does not equal making false claims of illegal activity. The Ags provide plenty of material for legitimate fun poking.

Umm...claiming a tax deduction for something that isn't tax-deductible is, in fact, an illegal activity. Even an Aggie should know that. Good for them that they got it sorted out before anyone made that mistake.

Good deflect. You accused them of money laundering.

If the story I got is accurate, it sounds like their attorneys changed their minds on the tax deductibility of 12th Man+ donations. Good thing that's never happened before or many of us would have issues as well.

(08-12-2023 03:00 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Just lost another 2024 high school pitcher to the Aggies. Don't these guys realize that they're going to have to beat out a boat load of transfers to ever make it onto the field?

(08-12-2023 03:00 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Just lost another 2024 high school pitcher to the Aggies. Don't these guys realize that they're going to have to beat out a boat load of transfers to ever make it onto the field?

(08-14-2023 09:49 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 03:00 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Just lost another 2024 high school pitcher to the Aggies. Don't these guys realize that they're going to have to beat out a boat load of transfers to ever make it onto the field?

Sadly, most kids and their parents do not understand or care to do some basic research into the new recruiting model especially at the P5 level. So, to answer your question...they DO NOT realize what they are getting into.

(08-14-2023 10:00 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-14-2023 09:49 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 03:00 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Just lost another 2024 high school pitcher to the Aggies. Don't these guys realize that they're going to have to beat out a boat load of transfers to ever make it onto the field?

Sadly, most kids and their parents do not understand or care to do some basic research into the new recruiting model especially at the P5 level. So, to answer your question...they DO NOT realize what they are getting into.

One thing about top level athletes - they always think THEY are the ones who will prevail in the competition for positions and PT. Confidence in themselves is a feature of top players.

Just saw an article in the Fort Worth paper about a transfer WR from Minnesota. A former top 100 recruit, in two years he caught about 25 passes for about 600 yards. I am sure he expected to be dominant when he left Texas. Maybe he thinks it will be easier at TCU.

(08-14-2023 10:07 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-14-2023 10:00 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-14-2023 09:49 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 03:00 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Just lost another 2024 high school pitcher to the Aggies. Don't these guys realize that they're going to have to beat out a boat load of transfers to ever make it onto the field?

Sadly, most kids and their parents do not understand or care to do some basic research into the new recruiting model especially at the P5 level. So, to answer your question...they DO NOT realize what they are getting into.

One thing about top level athletes - they always think THEY are the ones who will prevail in the competition for positions and PT. Confidence in themselves is a feature of top players.

Just saw an article in the Fort Worth paper about a transfer WR from Minnesota. A former top 100 recruit, in two years he caught about 25 passes for about 600 yards. I am sure he expected to be dominant when he left Texas. Maybe he thinks it will be easier at TCU.

I'd say he still has high expectations, if 2 receptions per game for an average of 24 yards as a freshman and sophomore isn't good enough for him. Maybe he's just moving closer to home?

(08-14-2023 10:24 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Overall, though, I think lots of undergrad transfers are of players disappointed in their PT and who think a new coaching staff will make "better" use of their talents.