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RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - ausowl - 10-04-2022 11:46 AM
(10-04-2022 10:41 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:(10-03-2022 04:05 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: One of our 2023 recruits decommitted today.
Which recruit?
https://twitter.com/Larry2Drake
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - waltgreenberg - 10-04-2022 03:29 PM
(10-04-2022 10:35 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:(10-03-2022 04:05 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: One of our 2023 recruits decommitted today.
Any insight as to why? Typically when you see this it's and indication that the school may have either pulled or possibly lowered the scholarship offer. Not saying that was done here but I have seen that with other schools. Could just be the player decided it was not a good fit.
Unlike most tweets of decommits in which no mention is made of the previous school, Drake went out of his way to thank the Rice coaching staff in his tweet. I hope it was about scholarship money and not him seeking a better opportunity....
...but, alas, he just tweeted his commitment to UT. Given the one-day turnaround (similar to David Shaw, who committed to UT one day after entering the portal).
Wonder if it was for better money-- both scholarship and NIL, the latter of which we simply cannot compete with UT. Regardless, we're starting to see a pattern of Pierce and his staff poaching us.
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - Texasowl - 10-04-2022 04:27 PM
Maybe we should keep are commits confidential.
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - Musicowl1965 - 10-04-2022 08:37 PM
(10-04-2022 03:29 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:(10-04-2022 10:35 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:(10-03-2022 04:05 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: One of our 2023 recruits decommitted today.
Any insight as to why? Typically when you see this it's and indication that the school may have either pulled or possibly lowered the scholarship offer. Not saying that was done here but I have seen that with other schools. Could just be the player decided it was not a good fit.
Unlike most tweets of decommits in which no mention is made of the previous school, Drake went out of his way to thank the Rice coaching staff in his tweet. I hope it was about scholarship money and not him seeking a better opportunity....
...but, alas, he just tweeted his commitment to UT. Given the one-day turnaround (similar to David Shaw, who committed to UT one day after entering the portal).
Wonder if it was for better money-- both scholarship and NIL, the latter of which we simply cannot compete with UT. Regardless, we're starting to see a pattern of Pierce and his staff poaching us.
I believe Rice would’ve been a much better fit than UT IMO. Might have a shot after next season in the portal. However you make good point on NIL and a 25% scholarship goes further at a 25K school than at a 70K school for family Rice will need to get creative with NIL and aid other than Rice Investment if tuition keeps rising exponentially. I know, beating a dead horse again but I couldn’t help it!!!
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - ausowl - 10-04-2022 09:54 PM
(10-04-2022 03:29 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:(10-04-2022 10:35 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:(10-03-2022 04:05 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: One of our 2023 recruits decommitted today.
Any insight as to why? Typically when you see this it's and indication that the school may have either pulled or possibly lowered the scholarship offer. Not saying that was done here but I have seen that with other schools. Could just be the player decided it was not a good fit.
Unlike most tweets of decommits in which no mention is made of the previous school, Drake went out of his way to thank the Rice coaching staff in his tweet. I hope it was about scholarship money and not him seeking a better opportunity....
...but, alas, he just tweeted his commitment to UT. Given the one-day turnaround (similar to David Shaw, who committed to UT one day after entering the portal).
Wonder if it was for better money-- both scholarship and NIL, the latter of which we simply cannot compete with UT. Regardless, we're starting to see a pattern of Pierce and his staff poaching us.
I don't see the UT commitment tweet. One follow wants him to commit to UT . . . Maybe I'm just missing it.
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - ausowl - 10-15-2022 08:12 PM
(10-04-2022 09:54 PM)ausowl Wrote:Drake going to UH(10-04-2022 03:29 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:(10-04-2022 10:35 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:(10-03-2022 04:05 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: One of our 2023 recruits decommitted today.
Any insight as to why? Typically when you see this it's and indication that the school may have either pulled or possibly lowered the scholarship offer. Not saying that was done here but I have seen that with other schools. Could just be the player decided it was not a good fit.
Unlike most tweets of decommits in which no mention is made of the previous school, Drake went out of his way to thank the Rice coaching staff in his tweet. I hope it was about scholarship money and not him seeking a better opportunity....
...but, alas, he just tweeted his commitment to UT. Given the one-day turnaround (similar to David Shaw, who committed to UT one day after entering the portal).
Wonder if it was for better money-- both scholarship and NIL, the latter of which we simply cannot compete with UT. Regardless, we're starting to see a pattern of Pierce and his staff poaching us.
I don't see the UT commitment tweet. One follow wants him to commit to UT . . . Maybe I'm just missing it.
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - waltgreenberg - 10-15-2022 11:03 PM
(10-15-2022 08:12 PM)ausowl Wrote:(10-04-2022 09:54 PM)ausowl Wrote:Drake going to UH(10-04-2022 03:29 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:(10-04-2022 10:35 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:(10-03-2022 04:05 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: One of our 2023 recruits decommitted today.
Any insight as to why? Typically when you see this it's and indication that the school may have either pulled or possibly lowered the scholarship offer. Not saying that was done here but I have seen that with other schools. Could just be the player decided it was not a good fit.
Unlike most tweets of decommits in which no mention is made of the previous school, Drake went out of his way to thank the Rice coaching staff in his tweet. I hope it was about scholarship money and not him seeking a better opportunity....
...but, alas, he just tweeted his commitment to UT. Given the one-day turnaround (similar to David Shaw, who committed to UT one day after entering the portal).
Wonder if it was for better money-- both scholarship and NIL, the latter of which we simply cannot compete with UT. Regardless, we're starting to see a pattern of Pierce and his staff poaching us.
I don't see the UT commitment tweet. One follow wants him to commit to UT . . . Maybe I'm just missing it.
Wonder if academics had anything to do with it.
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - Musicowl1965 - 10-16-2022 02:35 PM
(10-15-2022 11:03 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:(10-15-2022 08:12 PM)ausowl Wrote:(10-04-2022 09:54 PM)ausowl Wrote:Drake going to UH(10-04-2022 03:29 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:(10-04-2022 10:35 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote: Any insight as to why? Typically when you see this it's and indication that the school may have either pulled or possibly lowered the scholarship offer. Not saying that was done here but I have seen that with other schools. Could just be the player decided it was not a good fit.
Unlike most tweets of decommits in which no mention is made of the previous school, Drake went out of his way to thank the Rice coaching staff in his tweet. I hope it was about scholarship money and not him seeking a better opportunity....
...but, alas, he just tweeted his commitment to UT. Given the one-day turnaround (similar to David Shaw, who committed to UT one day after entering the portal).
Wonder if it was for better money-- both scholarship and NIL, the latter of which we simply cannot compete with UT. Regardless, we're starting to see a pattern of Pierce and his staff poaching us.
I don't see the UT commitment tweet. One follow wants him to commit to UT . . . Maybe I'm just missing it.
Wonder if academics had anything to do with it.
Obviously not an upgrade academically!!!
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - ausowl - 10-16-2022 09:42 PM
(10-15-2022 11:03 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:(10-15-2022 08:12 PM)ausowl Wrote:(10-04-2022 09:54 PM)ausowl Wrote:Drake going to UH(10-04-2022 03:29 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:(10-04-2022 10:35 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote: Any insight as to why? Typically when you see this it's and indication that the school may have either pulled or possibly lowered the scholarship offer. Not saying that was done here but I have seen that with other schools. Could just be the player decided it was not a good fit.
Unlike most tweets of decommits in which no mention is made of the previous school, Drake went out of his way to thank the Rice coaching staff in his tweet. I hope it was about scholarship money and not him seeking a better opportunity....
...but, alas, he just tweeted his commitment to UT. Given the one-day turnaround (similar to David Shaw, who committed to UT one day after entering the portal).
Wonder if it was for better money-- both scholarship and NIL, the latter of which we simply cannot compete with UT. Regardless, we're starting to see a pattern of Pierce and his staff poaching us.
I don't see the UT commitment tweet. One follow wants him to commit to UT . . . Maybe I'm just missing it.
Wonder if academics had anything to do with it.
Wouldn't the Rice staff have seen his grades and scores well into the process? Given the crazy state of college costs, suspect it's more about net costs. Esp if he has siblings. $24K less scholarship $ for a UH degree v. Rice $$. Who knows. Probably not fair to speculate. Anyway, best of luck to him.
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - Tiki Owl - 10-17-2022 08:17 AM
Disturbing because he has had time with the new pitching coach if part of his reason was unhappiness with the prior one.
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - Musicowl1965 - 10-17-2022 09:16 AM
(10-16-2022 09:42 PM)ausowl Wrote:(10-15-2022 11:03 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:(10-15-2022 08:12 PM)ausowl Wrote:(10-04-2022 09:54 PM)ausowl Wrote:Drake going to UH(10-04-2022 03:29 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: Unlike most tweets of decommits in which no mention is made of the previous school, Drake went out of his way to thank the Rice coaching staff in his tweet. I hope it was about scholarship money and not him seeking a better opportunity....
...but, alas, he just tweeted his commitment to UT. Given the one-day turnaround (similar to David Shaw, who committed to UT one day after entering the portal).
Wonder if it was for better money-- both scholarship and NIL, the latter of which we simply cannot compete with UT. Regardless, we're starting to see a pattern of Pierce and his staff poaching us.
I don't see the UT commitment tweet. One follow wants him to commit to UT . . . Maybe I'm just missing it.
Wonder if academics had anything to do with it.
Wouldn't the Rice staff have seen his grades and scores well into the process? Given the crazy state of college costs, suspect it's more about net costs. Esp if he has siblings. $24K less scholarship $ for a UH degree v. Rice $$. Who knows. Probably not fair to speculate. Anyway, best of luck to him.
Good point. Getting tougher to recruit especially at the private schools for this very reason. Public schools are doing their best to catch up though. I wish him the best of luck as well.
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - Owl 69/70/75 - 10-18-2022 07:27 AM
(10-17-2022 09:16 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:(10-16-2022 09:42 PM)ausowl Wrote: Wouldn't the Rice staff have seen his grades and scores well into the process? Given the crazy state of college costs, suspect it's more about net costs. Esp if he has siblings. $24K less scholarship $ for a UH degree v. Rice $$. Who knows. Probably not fair to speculate. Anyway, best of luck to him.Good point. Getting tougher to recruit especially at the private schools for this very reason. Public schools are doing their best to catch up though. I wish him the best of luck as well.
M-O-N-E-Y.
If it costs $20,000/year more to attend Rice, many of these families simply cannot afford that, especially if he has siblings. That Rice degree kind of loses a lot of its significance when the upfront cost is that steep, particularly for someone who sees his career goal as professional baseball when at age 18.
Personal note. My family was not poor by any stretch. They had saved up enough for me to go to Rice (in the first class to pay tuition). When I got an NROTC scholarship that paid virtually everything (only the football players had a better deal), the money that they had saved for me sent my younger brother to Auburn.
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - Musicowl1965 - 10-18-2022 09:40 AM
(10-18-2022 07:27 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:(10-17-2022 09:16 AM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:(10-16-2022 09:42 PM)ausowl Wrote: Wouldn't the Rice staff have seen his grades and scores well into the process? Given the crazy state of college costs, suspect it's more about net costs. Esp if he has siblings. $24K less scholarship $ for a UH degree v. Rice $$. Who knows. Probably not fair to speculate. Anyway, best of luck to him.Good point. Getting tougher to recruit especially at the private schools for this very reason. Public schools are doing their best to catch up though. I wish him the best of luck as well.
M-O-N-E-Y.
If it costs $20,000/year more to attend Rice, many of these families simply cannot afford that, especially if he has siblings. That Rice degree kind of loses a lot of its significance when the upfront cost is that steep, particularly for someone who sees his career goal as professional baseball when at age 18.
Personal note. My family was not poor by any stretch. They had saved up enough for me to go to Rice (in the first class to pay tuition). When I got an NROTC scholarship that paid virtually everything (only the football players had a better deal), the money that they had saved for me sent my younger brother to Auburn.
All good points. Not to get too far off the rails of this thread but it begs the question, what is a Rice degree now worth in comparison to the good public universities ($/degree)? If a baseball players decision is first and foremost a quality education is Rice still their best option considering the cost? If kid believes its baseball or bust, why go to Rice and incur (or his family) that level of debt. If tuition continues to rise at the private institutions the cost absolutely will outweigh the benefit. The Rice Investment is a great program but I believe the $150,000 threshold for aid needs to be increased in proportion to tuition increases.
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - Texasowl - 10-18-2022 10:28 PM
Win some and loose some but a stupid move on his part.
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - johncatworth - 10-24-2022 09:02 PM
For those interested in recruiting, this Instagram post by a former UVA pitcher discusses an app purports to have compiled 20 years worth of data to give recruits an idea of how they stack up for various colleges. If I knew a high school player it seems like the kind of data they’d want. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CkHfwJMjkB1/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - waltgreenberg - 11-05-2022 08:20 PM
Just landed a 2024 SS/3B commit from NJ, Jack Harley (bats left-handed)...
https://twitter.com/jackharley61/status/1589030160086753280
https://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Playerprofile.aspx?ID=521178
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - MOBalum - 11-06-2022 08:06 AM
(11-05-2022 08:20 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: Just landed a 2024 SS/3B commit from NJ, Jack Harley (bats left-handed)...
https://twitter.com/jackharley61/status/1589030160086753280
https://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Playerprofile.aspx?ID=521178
Delbarton HS - home of Rice broadcasting legend Jonathan Yardley!
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - waltgreenberg - 11-14-2022 06:07 PM
Another commit-- 2025 speedster OF from Katy, Yarel Delgado...
https://twitter.com/delgado_yarel/status/1592275931925975041
https://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Playerprofile.aspx?ID=788525
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - ausowl - 11-17-2022 11:20 PM
Paul J interview,
Not sure if I can link it correctly.
https://mobile.twitter.com/baseballifer11/status/1592206474599890944?s=20&t=UHm8tcbz4XIxmo9R-TRDSA
RE: [split] Baseball Recruiting 2021 and beyond - Musicowl1965 - 11-18-2022 12:09 PM
(11-17-2022 11:20 PM)ausowl Wrote: Paul J interview,
Not sure if I can link it correctly.
https://mobile.twitter.com/baseballifer11/status/1592206474599890944?s=20&t=UHm8tcbz4XIxmo9R-TRDSA
I watched this interview (28 mins) with Walter Beede. Coach Janish was very informative with how he sees the current recruiting landscape (NIL, transfer portal) and the challenges that this has created for high academic schools like Rice. Class act and represents Rice well.