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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - EverRespect - 04-27-2020 04:05 PM (04-27-2020 03:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(04-27-2020 02:52 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:(04-27-2020 02:42 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(04-27-2020 02:37 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:(04-27-2020 02:31 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: My view point is not emotionally driven at all, it is statistics driven. The evidence is overwhelming that social distancing is working and that if things were opened up freely, we would have hundred of thousands of deaths on our hands. Thats not something I'm willing to tolerate. I don't see how any could debate that. This virus is lethal in ways this country has never seen before. Its not surprising to me in the least that NY would have the most deaths, it's going to hit that area first and the hardest due to population density. But, without social distancing measures, it would have (and still could) spread to other areas of the country. To use what our current mortality rate, we are at 0.563 mortality rate. To get to 100,000 deaths, all you need is 1,776,199 cases (we are at over a million right now). A vaccine would be wonderful. We still don't have one for the flu or HIV. Highly unlikely there will be one by the fall. Even if there is one in the queue right now, it won't come to market in a long time and many people will not be willing to be the guinea pig. RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - PhillyFlorz - 04-27-2020 04:09 PM (04-27-2020 03:47 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:I don't want to turn this into something analogous to the "Fire Jones, Keep Jones" rants, but my last thought on the virus topic is this: I can lock myself in. But at some point I want to open my door and go to a restaurant. And, for me personally, I think that will be a long time coming if the 30% of the country who believes social distancing is ineffective is out there running around contagious, and, in the process, spreading the virus like wildfire. At the end of the day, my feeling is we are in this together. We either let everyone run free and take our chances or we all tread lightly in terms of loosening restrictions.(04-27-2020 03:45 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote: I would take you up on it, but I fear that someone (who is carrying the virus and doesn't believe in social distancing is effective), sneezes on me first, thereby causing my untimely demise and, in the process, unable to see your invoices. RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Gilesfan - 04-27-2020 06:33 PM (04-27-2020 04:01 PM)EverRespect Wrote:(04-27-2020 03:17 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:(04-27-2020 02:52 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:I say we conduct a test. To those who do not believe social distancing has no impact on the spread of the virus, have those fill the Ted for two hours. We then test them a few days later to see if they contracted the virus. I'd be curious to know how many of the "social distancing does not work crowd" would be willing to take their chances at participating.(04-27-2020 02:42 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(04-27-2020 02:37 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: You say this a lot, but you never site that overwhelming evidence. If this is true, which I dont believe, what does this tell you about the intelligence of our population? I mean...most people arent that stupid. RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Grommet - 04-27-2020 07:04 PM (04-27-2020 12:23 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:(04-27-2020 11:56 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:(04-27-2020 10:01 AM)Monarchblue Wrote: Based on the facts, his position seems far more likely to be accurate than our state gov't that said we may be in phase 1 for 2 years. As part of my essential company, I've driven all over hell's half-acre since this thing started. Traffic may be the single silver lining of all this. I've been in ONE (1) back-up, which occurred last Thursday when a white sedan hit one of those Scorpion(?) traffic-worker protection trucks with the back that folds down, closing three lanes of 264E. Today, I left Wmbg at 5:00 and drove to the southside, never once slowing down. Traffic is very different from a normal day. ETA: To Giles hypothetical, I only drove 5 mph over the posted limits. :) RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Grommet - 04-27-2020 07:27 PM (04-27-2020 04:05 PM)EverRespect Wrote:(04-27-2020 03:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(04-27-2020 02:52 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:(04-27-2020 02:42 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(04-27-2020 02:37 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: You say this a lot, but you never site that overwhelming evidence. I'll have to try and find the source of where I read this, it was several days ago and I really have no clue as to where, BUT: There is one vaccine in phase 2 trials Larger group) right now, several in phase 1 (smaller group), and several more pre-phase 1. The flu and HIV aren't like covid. But SARS is, and there's no vaccine for SARS despite the fact that outbreak was 17 years ago. RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Grommet - 04-27-2020 07:33 PM (04-26-2020 11:26 AM)Grommet Wrote:(04-25-2020 06:14 PM)Grommet Wrote:(04-24-2020 12:17 PM)Grommet Wrote:(04-23-2020 11:33 AM)Grommet Wrote:(04-22-2020 05:57 PM)Grommet Wrote: 4/22: 60,778 tested, 10,266 positive...16.9% 4/27: 80,180 tested, 13,535 positive...16.9% RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Grommet - 04-27-2020 08:43 PM (04-27-2020 08:15 PM)smudge12 Wrote: Seems like there's been a worldwide spike in general deaths unattributed to the pandemic. While more research is needed, there's probably a strong correlation with the spike and Covid-19 deaths which were never counted: Your link doesn't work, but here's what seems to be a similar story from the WP https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/04/27/covid-19-death-toll-undercounted/ RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Gilesfan - 04-27-2020 09:39 PM Yeah, I know people have assumed their are less cases of COVID than what has been reported because they believe hospitals are cooking the numbers. I think its the opposite and there are more deaths than reported based on some evidence that the virus hit us a little earlier than what was reported. RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - EverRespect - 04-28-2020 07:02 AM (04-27-2020 09:39 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: Yeah, I know people have assumed their are less cases of COVID than what has been reported because they believe hospitals are cooking the numbers. I think its the opposite and there are more deaths than reported based on some evidence that the virus hit us a little earlier than what was reported.. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - ODUCoach - 04-28-2020 09:34 AM In all of Hampton Roads, we've had 359 hospitalizations, 56 deaths, and 100k people file for unemployment. https://hrcovid19-hrpdc-gis.hub.arcgis.com RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Monarchblue - 04-28-2020 10:03 AM (04-27-2020 10:01 AM)Monarchblue Wrote: Based on the facts, his position seems far more likely to be accurate than our state gov't that said we may be in phase 1 for 2 years. Some facts about Hampton Roads (population around 1.5 million): Positive tests:1,767 (+64) Hospitalizations:373 (+14) Deaths: 61 (+5) Virginia Beach: Positive tests:359 (+4) RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - mturn017 - 04-28-2020 10:39 AM (04-28-2020 10:03 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:(04-27-2020 10:01 AM)Monarchblue Wrote: Based on the facts, his position seems far more likely to be accurate than our state gov't that said we may be in phase 1 for 2 years. Just think when all those tourist from New Jersey start coming back to the beach. OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Monarchblue - 04-28-2020 11:15 AM Luckily, it seems that almost nobody catches the covid outdoors. Imagine the oceanfront worker or business owner that makes almost all of their annual income in the 100 days between Memorial Day and Labor Day. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Gilesfan - 04-28-2020 11:25 AM (04-28-2020 11:15 AM)Monarchblue Wrote: Luckily, it seems that almost nobody catches the covid outdoors. Lets assume they are spread apart on the beach. Do they make a day trip from New Jersey to the beach or are they going to be staying at hotels/AirBnbs, etc. and eating at oceanfront restaurants? RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Monarchblue - 04-28-2020 11:56 AM They will be staying in hotels and eating in restaurants. It wouldn't do the economy much good if they didn't. RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Monarchist13 - 04-28-2020 12:45 PM RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - ODUCoach - 04-28-2020 12:47 PM (04-28-2020 12:45 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote: Hahaha...at least we have something to do! RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Monarchist13 - 04-28-2020 01:03 PM (04-28-2020 12:47 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:(04-28-2020 12:45 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote: True. And as long as it is cordial, it's all good with me. RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Cyniclone - 04-28-2020 01:22 PM It's all well and good until it turns into human centipede RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Monarchist13 - 04-28-2020 01:27 PM (04-28-2020 01:22 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: It's all well and good until it turns into human centipede And this is why, instead of running in a circle, it's better to run in a rhombus. |