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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-23-2020 11:33 AM)Grommet Wrote: (04-22-2020 05:57 PM)Grommet Wrote: (04-21-2020 04:44 PM)Grommet Wrote: (04-20-2020 07:57 AM)Grommet Wrote: (04-19-2020 07:43 PM)Grommet Wrote: 4/19: 54,733 tested, 8537 positive...15.6%
4/20: 56,735 tested, 8990 positive...15.8%
4/21: 58,354 tested, 9630 positive...16.5%
4/22: 60,778 tested, 10,266 positive...16.9%
4/23: 64,518 tested, 10,998 positive...17.0%
4/24: 69, 015 tested, 11,594 positive...16.8%
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
Ain’t no way Phase 1 will last two years. Richmond will be burned to the ground before the citizens of Virginia accept that.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-25-2020 05:38 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: Ain’t no way Phase 1 will last two years. Richmond will be burned to the ground before the citizens of Virginia accept that.
How out of touch are these people?
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-24-2020 12:17 PM)Grommet Wrote: (04-23-2020 11:33 AM)Grommet Wrote: (04-22-2020 05:57 PM)Grommet Wrote: (04-21-2020 04:44 PM)Grommet Wrote: (04-20-2020 07:57 AM)Grommet Wrote: 4/20: 56,735 tested, 8990 positive...15.8%
4/21: 58,354 tested, 9630 positive...16.5%
4/22: 60,778 tested, 10,266 positive...16.9%
4/23: 64,518 tested, 10,998 positive...17.0%
4/24: 69, 015 tested, 11,594 positive...16.8%
4/25: 72,178 tested, 12,366 positive...17.1%
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
Without commenting on what can/cannot be re-opened, I feel we are indeed in for the long haul. The consensus seems to be towards a high probability of a rebound in the fall. History buffs will recall there was even a third wave in the 1918 pandemic, and that one (eta: that pandemic) did indeed last two years.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
I don’t expect COVID to magically disappear, but I thought the idea was to “Flatten the curve.” We’ve been successful. The hospitals are freakin’ ghost towns. It’s time to start opening things back up. High risk populations should probably stay home. Let the rest of us proceed with our lives.
Side note: why is our doctor-governor such a failure when it comes to testing? The backwoods of PA where I grew up is even doing antibody testing now, and yet our fearless leader is too busy letting his staff scare people into saying we’re going to be locked down for two years. What a failure.
Now, it’s off to take Clorox bath.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
Oddly, I opened imgur and this was the second post
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-25-2020 06:55 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: I don’t expect COVID to magically disappear, but I thought the idea was to “Flatten the curve.” We’ve been successful. The hospitals are freakin’ ghost towns. It’s time to start opening things back up. High risk populations should probably stay home. Let the rest of us proceed with our lives.
Side note: why is our doctor-governor such a failure when it comes to testing? The backwoods of PA where I grew up is even doing antibody testing now, and yet our fearless leader is too busy letting his staff scare people into saying we’re going to be locked down for two years. What a failure.
Now, it’s off to take Clorox bath.
Coach,
We did flatten the curve....but that means we lengthen the curve as well. The total # of cases over time, as I understand it, remain the same.
Enjoy your bath!
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-25-2020 07:06 PM)Grommet Wrote: We did flatten the curve....but that means we lengthen the curve as well. The total # of cases over time, as I understand it, remain the same.
I'd argue our curve looks nothing like that. In Chesapeake, we are under 200 cases for 6 weeks. Currently, there are 3 people in the hospital with COVID in Chesapeake. That's not a curve. That's a flat line.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-25-2020 07:47 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: (04-25-2020 07:06 PM)Grommet Wrote: We did flatten the curve....but that means we lengthen the curve as well. The total # of cases over time, as I understand it, remain the same.
I'd argue our curve looks nothing like that. In Chesapeake, we are under 200 cases for 6 weeks. Currently, there are 3 people in the hospital with COVID in Chesapeake. That's not a curve. That's a flat line.
Sounds like what we are doing is working.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-25-2020 07:52 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: Sounds like what we are doing is working.
Sounds to me like we've gone too far.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-25-2020 07:52 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (04-25-2020 07:47 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: (04-25-2020 07:06 PM)Grommet Wrote: We did flatten the curve....but that means we lengthen the curve as well. The total # of cases over time, as I understand it, remain the same.
I'd argue our curve looks nothing like that. In Chesapeake, we are under 200 cases for 6 weeks. Currently, there are 3 people in the hospital with COVID in Chesapeake. That's not a curve. That's a flat line.
Sounds like what we are doing is working.
I guess that depends on how you define working. I wouldn't call 25 million lost jobs "working".
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-25-2020 08:02 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: (04-25-2020 07:52 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (04-25-2020 07:47 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: (04-25-2020 07:06 PM)Grommet Wrote: We did flatten the curve....but that means we lengthen the curve as well. The total # of cases over time, as I understand it, remain the same.
I'd argue our curve looks nothing like that. In Chesapeake, we are under 200 cases for 6 weeks. Currently, there are 3 people in the hospital with COVID in Chesapeake. That's not a curve. That's a flat line.
Sounds like what we are doing is working.
I guess that depends on how you define working. I wouldn't call 25 million lost jobs "working".
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-25-2020 08:04 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (04-25-2020 08:02 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: (04-25-2020 07:52 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (04-25-2020 07:47 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: (04-25-2020 07:06 PM)Grommet Wrote: We did flatten the curve....but that means we lengthen the curve as well. The total # of cases over time, as I understand it, remain the same.
I'd argue our curve looks nothing like that. In Chesapeake, we are under 200 cases for 6 weeks. Currently, there are 3 people in the hospital with COVID in Chesapeake. That's not a curve. That's a flat line.
Sounds like what we are doing is working.
I guess that depends on how you define working. I wouldn't call 25 million lost jobs "working".
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Obviously going round and round but keeping people alive is my number 1 concern.
Still not clear that you are going to save more lives than you are going to kill.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
Elective surgeries start back up on May 1 - and then the rest will follow. It’s time to open the country back up, but it will be different. Masks will be required in public. This is our new normal. It’s time for our country to show its grit. Life back on.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-25-2020 08:06 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: (04-25-2020 08:04 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (04-25-2020 08:02 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: (04-25-2020 07:52 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (04-25-2020 07:47 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: I'd argue our curve looks nothing like that. In Chesapeake, we are under 200 cases for 6 weeks. Currently, there are 3 people in the hospital with COVID in Chesapeake. That's not a curve. That's a flat line.
Sounds like what we are doing is working.
I guess that depends on how you define working. I wouldn't call 25 million lost jobs "working".
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Still not clear that you are going to save more lives than you are going to kill.
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This is unquestionable not even up for debate. Even low end estimates are hundreds of thousands of lives.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
The chime model was not even close to being correct. The surge never happened. Time to put the models aside and move forward with common sense.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-25-2020 08:35 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: This is unquestionable not even up for debate. Even low end estimates are hundreds of thousands of lives.
At what cost? Trillions of dollars.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-25-2020 08:38 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote: The chime model was not even close to being correct. The surge never happened. Time to put the models aside and move forward with common sense.
Yep. Too many people are still invested in those early models that were disastrously wrong. The models were closer on NY (they were still off by a ton on hospital needs there), but they did not even remotely reflect the reality in 95% of the country. That modeling will be viewed as one of the largest failures in the history of this country one day. Public policy students will study the massive failure that created one of the largest economic disasters in this nation's history based entirely on on terrible piece of modeling.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here?
(04-25-2020 06:28 PM)Grommet Wrote: Without commenting on what can/cannot be re-opened, I feel we are indeed in for the long haul. The consensus seems to be towards a high probability of a rebound in the fall. History buffs will recall there was even a third wave in the 1918 pandemic, and that one (eta: that pandemic) did indeed last two years.
The pandemic may last 2 years, but the lockdowns sure as schit aren't.
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