Quote:U.S. immigration agents arrested two people at a Northern California courthouse, including a man detained in a hallway on his way to a hearing,floutinga new state law requiring a judicial warrant to make immigration arrests inside such facilities.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents made the arrests Tuesday at Sonoma County Superior Court, prompting an outcry from criminal justice and court officials who said the action undermines local authority and deters immigrants who are in the country illegally from participating in the U.S. justice system.

ICE said California's law doesn't supersede federal law and “will not govern the conduct of federal officers acting pursuant to duly-enacted laws passed by Congress that provide the authority to make administrative arrests of removable aliens inside the United States."

“Our officers will not have their hands tied by sanctuary rules when enforcing immigration laws to remove criminal aliens from our communities," David Jennings, ICE's field office director in San Francisco, said in the statement.

(02-20-2020 05:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  https://www.fresnobee.com/news/california/article240446461.html

Quote:U.S. immigration agents arrested two people at a Northern California courthouse, including a man detained in a hallway on his way to a hearing,floutinga new state law requiring a judicial warrant to make immigration arrests inside such facilities.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents made the arrests Tuesday at Sonoma County Superior Court, prompting an outcry from criminal justice and court officials who said the action undermines local authority and deters immigrants who are in the country illegally from participating in the U.S. justice system.

ICE said California's law doesn't supersede federal law and “will not govern the conduct of federal officers acting pursuant to duly-enacted laws passed by Congress that provide the authority to make administrative arrests of removable aliens inside the United States."

“Our officers will not have their hands tied by sanctuary rules when enforcing immigration laws to remove criminal aliens from our communities," David Jennings, ICE's field office director in San Francisco, said in the statement.

(02-20-2020 05:44 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 05:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  https://www.fresnobee.com/news/california/article240446461.html

Quote:U.S. immigration agents arrested two people at a Northern California courthouse, including a man detained in a hallway on his way to a hearing,floutinga new state law requiring a judicial warrant to make immigration arrests inside such facilities.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents made the arrests Tuesday at Sonoma County Superior Court, prompting an outcry from criminal justice and court officials who said the action undermines local authority and deters immigrants who are in the country illegally from participating in the U.S. justice system.

ICE said California's law doesn't supersede federal law and “will not govern the conduct of federal officers acting pursuant to duly-enacted laws passed by Congress that provide the authority to make administrative arrests of removable aliens inside the United States."

“Our officers will not have their hands tied by sanctuary rules when enforcing immigration laws to remove criminal aliens from our communities," David Jennings, ICE's field office director in San Francisco, said in the statement.

Love it. Too bad they didnt skid to a stop in front of the court house in the "EAT ME" car from "Animal House".

(02-20-2020 07:16 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Honest Question: who signed these warrants that ICE is serving?

(02-20-2020 05:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  https://www.fresnobee.com/news/california/article240446461.html

Quote:U.S. immigration agents arrested two people at a Northern California courthouse, including a man detained in a hallway on his way to a hearing,floutinga new state law requiring a judicial warrant to make immigration arrests inside such facilities.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents made the arrests Tuesday at Sonoma County Superior Court, prompting an outcry from criminal justice and court officials who said the action undermines local authority and deters immigrants who are in the country illegally from participating in the U.S. justice system.

ICE said California's law doesn't supersede federal law and “will not govern the conduct of federal officers acting pursuant to duly-enacted laws passed by Congress that provide the authority to make administrative arrests of removable aliens inside the United States."

“Our officers will not have their hands tied by sanctuary rules when enforcing immigration laws to remove criminal aliens from our communities," David Jennings, ICE's field office director in San Francisco, said in the statement.

(02-21-2020 08:39 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 05:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  prompting an outcry from criminal justice and court officials who said the action undermines local authority and deters immigrants who are in the country illegally from participating in the U.S. justice system.

WTF exactly does that mean? Seriously????

Are any illegal immigrants turning themselves in? Can an illegal immigrant serve on a jury? In what way is ANY illegal immigrant participating in the US Justice System that is voluntary or on their own.

Some one please explain this to me... I would love to know what US Justice System process this will stifle?

(02-21-2020 09:54 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(02-21-2020 08:39 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 05:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  prompting an outcry from criminal justice and court officials who said the action undermines local authority and deters immigrants who are in the country illegally from participating in the U.S. justice system.

WTF exactly does that mean? Seriously????

Are any illegal immigrants turning themselves in? Can an illegal immigrant serve on a jury? In what way is ANY illegal immigrant participating in the US Justice System that is voluntary or on their own.

Some one please explain this to me... I would love to know what US Justice System process this will stifle?

This actually IS an issue, and the proposed solutions do accurately describe the differences in approaches.

Illegal aliens are highly subject to exploitation by both other illegals as well as citizens... because they are less likely to seek police help. This creates a culture of danger as well as communities of danger that do leech into the lives of citizens and of course, sometimes actually involve them. This exploitation often includes human trafficking and other very serious crimes.

The left argues that we need to protect these people from exploitation by not having them fear deportation and the right argues that we need to stop them from being here in the first place to eliminate the community of danger.

(02-21-2020 09:54 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(02-21-2020 08:39 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 05:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  prompting an outcry from criminal justice and court officials who said the action undermines local authority and deters immigrants who are in the country illegally from participating in the U.S. justice system.

WTF exactly does that mean? Seriously????

Are any illegal immigrants turning themselves in? Can an illegal immigrant serve on a jury? In what way is ANY illegal immigrant participating in the US Justice System that is voluntary or on their own.

Some one please explain this to me... I would love to know what US Justice System process this will stifle?

This actually IS an issue, and the proposed solutions do accurately describe the differences in approaches.

Illegal aliens are highly subject to exploitation by both other illegals as well as citizens... because they are less likely to seek police help. This creates a culture of danger as well as communities of danger that do leech into the lives of citizens and of course, sometimes actually involve them. This exploitation often includes human trafficking and other very serious crimes.

The left argues that we need to protect these people from exploitation by not having them fear deportation and the right argues that we need to stop them from being here in the first place to eliminate the community of danger.

(02-21-2020 10:19 AM)shere khan Wrote:  So now democrats are for states rights. It's all so comfusing

(02-20-2020 10:48 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 07:16 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Honest Question: who signed these warrants that ICE is serving?

Mueller, and even if he didn’t, he would not remember it anyway.

(02-21-2020 09:54 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(02-21-2020 08:39 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 05:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  prompting an outcry from criminal justice and court officials who said the action undermines local authority and deters immigrants who are in the country illegally from participating in the U.S. justice system.

WTF exactly does that mean? Seriously????

Are any illegal immigrants turning themselves in? Can an illegal immigrant serve on a jury? In what way is ANY illegal immigrant participating in the US Justice System that is voluntary or on their own.

Some one please explain this to me... I would love to know what US Justice System process this will stifle?

This actually IS an issue, and the proposed solutions do accurately describe the differences in approaches.

Illegal aliens are highly subject to exploitation by both other illegals as well as citizens... because they are less likely to seek police help. This creates a culture of danger as well as communities of danger that do leech into the lives of citizens and of course, sometimes actually involve them. This exploitation often includes human trafficking and other very serious crimes.

The left argues that we need to protect these people from exploitation by not having them fear deportation and the right argues that we need to stop them from being here in the first place to eliminate the community of danger.

(02-21-2020 10:46 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(02-21-2020 09:54 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(02-21-2020 08:39 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 05:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  prompting an outcry from criminal justice and court officials who said the action undermines local authority and deters immigrants who are in the country illegally from participating in the U.S. justice system.

WTF exactly does that mean? Seriously????

Are any illegal immigrants turning themselves in? Can an illegal immigrant serve on a jury? In what way is ANY illegal immigrant participating in the US Justice System that is voluntary or on their own.

Some one please explain this to me... I would love to know what US Justice System process this will stifle?

This actually IS an issue, and the proposed solutions do accurately describe the differences in approaches.

Illegal aliens are highly subject to exploitation by both other illegals as well as citizens... because they are less likely to seek police help. This creates a culture of danger as well as communities of danger that do leech into the lives of citizens and of course, sometimes actually involve them. This exploitation often includes human trafficking and other very serious crimes.

The left argues that we need to protect these people from exploitation by not having them fear deportation and the right argues that we need to stop them from being here in the first place to eliminate the community of danger.

So for the 1,000,000th f'kn time....

Enforce the Federal Illegal Immigrant rules and there are not illegals here to be exploited in the first place.