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RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - StillJonesing - 11-04-2019 03:28 PM

(11-04-2019 03:21 PM)pesik Wrote:  also you have hyped tyrie...we had a whole conversation. you were posting about how good he was in practice and how he can really score..posting an article with dooley saying something similar

i assumed that meant he beat tremont for the starting pg job...i said it might be a bad thing, which i noted that if tremont wasn't good enough to win the starting pg job, he likely isn't very good and it was a disappointment as i thought he had all-conference potential ....and we had a talk that both would be starting ...

you've hyped tyrie quite a few times

I don't even think Tyrie is even one of our best players. Gardner, Robinson, LeDay(assuming he comes back 100% from ACL) Baruti are all better from what I expect. JJ Miles might be as well.

Also get some help man. I'm done with this.


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - OldFan - 11-04-2019 04:28 PM

James Wiseman is healthy and will play in the season opener: https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/college/memphis-tigers/basketball/2019/11/04/memphis-basketball-james-wiseman-penny-hardaway-south-carolina-state/4158492002/

And lo, there was much rejoicing. 03-wink


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - OldFan - 11-05-2019 10:03 AM

Jay Bilas (ESPN) rankings (top 68 teams):

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28006190/jay-bilas-1-68-college-basketball-rankings-2019-20-preseason

13 Memphis
20 Houston
23 Cincinnati
51 Wichita State
53 USF
57 UConn


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - pesik - 11-05-2019 11:35 AM

(11-05-2019 10:03 AM)OldFan Wrote:  Jay Bilas (ESPN) rankings (top 68 teams):

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28006190/jay-bilas-1-68-college-basketball-rankings-2019-20-preseason

13 Memphis
20 Houston
23 Cincinnati
51 Wichita State
53 USF
57 UConn

Top 10 Wings
4. Jarron Cumberland, Cincinnati

Top 10 Bigs
2. James Wiseman, Memphis

Top 10 Freshmen
2. James Wiseman, Memphis
10. Precious Achiuwa, Memphis

Top 10 Transfers
6. Quentin Grimes, Houston


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - ECUGrad07 - 11-05-2019 11:39 AM

(11-04-2019 04:28 PM)OldFan Wrote:  James Wiseman is healthy and will play in the season opener: https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/college/memphis-tigers/basketball/2019/11/04/memphis-basketball-james-wiseman-penny-hardaway-south-carolina-state/4158492002/

And lo, there was much rejoicing. 03-wink

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RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - Tiger1983 - 11-05-2019 04:12 PM




RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - pesik - 11-05-2019 04:20 PM

(11-05-2019 04:12 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

lol sampson says at some point, doesn't even say him...he says this is a program where its potentially possible
pennny is calling it this season


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - Memphis Yankee - 11-05-2019 04:26 PM

(11-05-2019 04:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:12 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

lol sampson says at some point, doesn't even say him...he says this is a program where its potentially possible
pennny is calling it this season

Sampson says "Championships". Plural. We're even.


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - pesik - 11-05-2019 04:33 PM

(11-05-2019 04:26 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:12 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

lol sampson says at some point, doesn't even say him...he says this is a program where its potentially possible
pennny is calling it this season

Sampson says "Championships". Plural. We're even.

i hope in entire history of our future its multiple


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - Tiger1983 - 11-05-2019 04:34 PM

(11-05-2019 04:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:12 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

lol sampson says at some point, doesn't even say him...he says this is a program where its potentially possible
pennny is calling it this season

He literally said “ We can win championships at Houston.” It is only a matter of time. When do you expect to win the first one and then the second?


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - Stickboy46 - 11-05-2019 04:44 PM

(11-05-2019 04:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:26 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:12 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

lol sampson says at some point, doesn't even say him...he says this is a program where its potentially possible
pennny is calling it this season

Sampson says "Championships". Plural. We're even.

i hope in entire history of our future its multiple

And i mean, we are comparing a guy with 30+ years D1 coaching experience, multiple national coach of the year awards, Multiple sweet 16s, and a final four that is also coming off back to back tourney seasons including a Sweet 16 with a guy with one year of experience and missed the tourney.

I'd believe Sampson ... He's earned that.
I'm wait and see with Penny.


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - ShockerFever - 11-05-2019 04:54 PM

(11-05-2019 04:44 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:26 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:12 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

lol sampson says at some point, doesn't even say him...he says this is a program where its potentially possible
pennny is calling it this season

Sampson says "Championships". Plural. We're even.

i hope in entire history of our future its multiple

And i mean, we are comparing a guy with 30+ years D1 coaching experience, multiple national coach of the year awards, Multiple sweet 16s, and a final four that is also coming off back to back tourney seasons including a Sweet 16 with a guy with one year of experience and missed the tourney.

I'd believe Sampson ... He's earned that.
I'm wait and see with Penny.

Yah, I’d say the comparisons are slightly different.


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - pesik - 11-05-2019 04:58 PM

(11-05-2019 04:34 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:12 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

lol sampson says at some point, doesn't even say him...he says this is a program where its potentially possible
pennny is calling it this season

He literally said “ We can win championships at Houston.” It is only a matter of time. When do you expect to win the first one and then the second?

you realize between him and his son they could be here for decades...

the full quote from presser has nothing to do with championships but to thank galen, rob, chicken, pollard etc... said those guys came when houston had nothing, they bought in on a vision, for nothing..says we are done with the 2020 class, its a great class, but we are recruiting them off a sweet 16, wasn't hard for those guys to buy in...

says we've become a top end program in the aac, a programs that can win championships in the future and its thanks to those players who sacrificed and believed...

i posted the interview a few dago, i think 4 pages back


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - Tiger1983 - 11-05-2019 05:09 PM

(11-05-2019 04:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:34 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:12 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

lol sampson says at some point, doesn't even say him...he says this is a program where its potentially possible
pennny is calling it this season

He literally said “ We can win championships at Houston.” It is only a matter of time. When do you expect to win the first one and then the second?

you realize between him and his son they could be here for decades...

the full quote from presser has nothing to do with championships but to thank galen, rob, chicken, pollard etc... said those guys came when houston had nothing, they bought in on a vision, for nothing..says we are done with the 2020 class, its a great class, but we are recruiting them off a sweet 16, wasn't hard for those guys to buy in...

says we've become a top end program in the aac, a programs that can win championships in the future and its thanks to those players who sacrificed and believed...

i posted the interview a few dago, i think 4 pages back
In other words, Houston has the potential for a NC and anything less means failure to reach full potential (ie, underachievement) from this season forward.


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - Memphis Yankee - 11-05-2019 05:23 PM

(11-05-2019 05:09 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:34 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:12 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

lol sampson says at some point, doesn't even say him...he says this is a program where its potentially possible
pennny is calling it this season

He literally said “ We can win championships at Houston.” It is only a matter of time. When do you expect to win the first one and then the second?

you realize between him and his son they could be here for decades...

the full quote from presser has nothing to do with championships but to thank galen, rob, chicken, pollard etc... said those guys came when houston had nothing, they bought in on a vision, for nothing..says we are done with the 2020 class, its a great class, but we are recruiting them off a sweet 16, wasn't hard for those guys to buy in...

says we've become a top end program in the aac, a programs that can win championships in the future and its thanks to those players who sacrificed and believed...

i posted the interview a few dago, i think 4 pages back
In other words, Houston has the potential for a NC and anything less means failure to reach full potential (ie, underachievement) from this season forward.

Sounds like he's throwing his hat in the ring to me. Next April is the future isn't it? I say he called it. What's your read 83?


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - pesik - 11-05-2019 05:25 PM

(11-05-2019 05:09 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  In other words, Houston has the potential for a NC and anything less means failure to reach full potential (ie, underachievement) from this season forward.

what? how did you get that interpretation?

he literally says people put expectations on teams to easily in that SAME interview..says this team hasn't done anything to warrant expectations yet
https://twitter.com/gocoogs1/status/1189970417437564929

non of our players, teams or caches have even put out the expectation of a final 4, its not title or failure

aaron mckie says they can win championships too...similar to sampson (clearly talking about the future)..the article with sampson is about recruiting for the future and thanking past players, tjat has nothing to do with this season

i get that you want cover for the penny quotes but this is a drastic, drastic stretch on your part...


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - Memphis Yankee - 11-05-2019 05:28 PM

(11-05-2019 05:25 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 05:09 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  In other words, Houston has the potential for a NC and anything less means failure to reach full potential (ie, underachievement) from this season forward.

what? how did you get that interpretation?

he literally say people put expectations on teams to easily in that SAME interview..says this team hasn't done anything to warrant expectations yet
https://twitter.com/gocoogs1/status/1189970417437564929

non of our players, teams or caches have even put out the expectation of a final 4, its not title or failure

aaron mckie says they can win championships too...similar to sampson (clearly talking about the future)

i get that you want cover for the penny quotes but this is a drastic, drastic stretch on your part...

He called it. He pulled a Penny. Pull my finger!


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - Tiger1983 - 11-05-2019 05:29 PM

(11-05-2019 05:23 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 05:09 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:34 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 04:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  lol sampson says at some point, doesn't even say him...he says this is a program where its potentially possible
pennny is calling it this season

He literally said “ We can win championships at Houston.” It is only a matter of time. When do you expect to win the first one and then the second?

you realize between him and his son they could be here for decades...

the full quote from presser has nothing to do with championships but to thank galen, rob, chicken, pollard etc... said those guys came when houston had nothing, they bought in on a vision, for nothing..says we are done with the 2020 class, its a great class, but we are recruiting them off a sweet 16, wasn't hard for those guys to buy in...

says we've become a top end program in the aac, a programs that can win championships in the future and its thanks to those players who sacrificed and believed...

i posted the interview a few dago, i think 4 pages back
In other words, Houston has the potential for a NC and anything less means failure to reach full potential (ie, underachievement) from this season forward.

Sounds like he's throwing his hat in the ring to me. Next April is the future isn't it? I say he called it. What's your read 83?
I think his willingness to discuss championship potential indicts confidence in his team and in his program. I am sure he will strive for a championship this season just like any coach with a realistic opportunity.


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - WhoseHouse? - 11-05-2019 05:35 PM

Memphis fans love stirring the pot for no reason lol


RE: *** Basketball News Thread (Part 4) *** - Tiger1983 - 11-05-2019 05:43 PM

(11-05-2019 05:25 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-05-2019 05:09 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  In other words, Houston has the potential for a NC and anything less means failure to reach full potential (ie, underachievement) from this season forward.

what? how did you get that interpretation?

he literally says people put expectations on teams to easily in that SAME interview..says this team hasn't done anything to warrant expectations yet
https://twitter.com/gocoogs1/status/1189970417437564929

non of our players, teams or caches have even put out the expectation of a final 4, its not title or failure

aaron mckie says they can win championships too...similar to sampson (clearly talking about the future)..the article with sampson is about recruiting for the future and thanking past players, tjat has nothing to do with this season

i get that you want cover for the penny quotes but this is a drastic, drastic stretch on your part...

1. Kelvin Sampson: 'We can win championships at Houston'.
2. “We can win” means potential exists for championship.
3. Therefore, Houston has the potential for a NC and anything less means failure to reach full potential (ie, underachievement) from this season forward.

I commend Sampson for his bold statement. I detest coach speak.

I will not participate in the densely boring tit for tat cycle infesting some threads. Carry on...