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RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 12-31-2019 11:45 AM
Thru 11 games, Rose has a field goal percentage of 36 percent (51-191). It’s hard to believe Temple even has a 83 non-conference record when it’s most prolific shooter shoots so poorly.
In contrast to Rose’s poor shooting stands Perry has shot 53.4 percent
(31- 58). If Perry has taken 141 fga’s, Perry would have scored 48 more points than Rose did.
Perry needs to play and shoot more, and Rose needs to lower the number of shots he takes.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 12-31-2019 05:28 PM
Temple has gotten off to a good start by winning it’s first conference game by beating UCF 62-58.
Temple applied a pressure defense and upped it’s tempo in the second half to outscore UCF 34-25. Temple forced 4 HCF turnovers in a two minute period in the second half, and caused UCF to go scoreless for 4 minutes in the second half.
Temple scored 2 more points than UCF off of of UCF turnovers, and scored 8 points to UCF’s 2 points off fast breaks.
Temple got down by 8 points in the first half.
Temple’s defense was excellent as it made 12 steals in the game and forced 17 UCF turnovers. Nate made 4 steals and had 11 rebounds. He’sTemple’s unrecognized PF.
Temple committed 17 turnovers (Forrester had 8 turnovers, Rose ) which helps explain Temple only scoring but 62-points.
Temple committed few fouls resulting in UCF only making foul-shots. Temple made 15-foul shots.
Temple shot 33 percent on three’s (7-21), and Temple’s defense held UCF UCF to making only 25 percent on three’s (6-24).
Temple’s half-court offense was ineffective as Temple scored but 27-points in the first-half on 43 percent ( 14-32) shooting on 2’s. Alani and NPL shot 1-5 from the field.
Temple’s interior defense played poorly as UCF shot 54.5 percent on two’s (18-33).
Rose led Temple by scoring 26 points shooting 5-14 from the field, but compensated a by getting to and shooting 6-7 at the foul-line.
Moorman’s and JPL played well.
Scott played but 14 minutes and was 0-5 from the field, including shooting 0-2 on three’s.
Perry played only 20 minutes, scoring 11-points, taking only 6 fga’s, shooting 3-6 from the floor, including shooting 2-4 on three’s, and 3-4 at the foul line. Had one steal. He should both play and shoot more.
It looks like Temple is only going to win games with it’s pressure defense.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 12-31-2019 11:55 PM
Happy New Year everyone!!
Temple next plays Tulsa that sports a 8-5 record. The game is being played on Tulsa ‘s home court. Tulsa is ranked 125th in the nation. UCF was ranked 95 in the nation.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-02-2020 06:52 AM
Temple’s National NET ranking is now 37, and third behind conference foes Wichita State and Memphis.
Since the recent NET rankings, Wichita State is 12-1, but they struggled to beat ECU 75-69.
Cincinnati is now 8-5, and beat a UConn 67-51. UConn is now 9-4.
After the Tulsa game, Temple plays three games at home against Houston, Tulane, and Wichita State. Temple then plays SMU away, and Cincinnati at home.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-04-2020 12:21 AM
Temple was beaten by Tulsa 70-44. Was hoping Temple would build on it’s win over UCF, but that didn’t happen. Game over at half-time when Temple trailed 35-17. Temple’s offense has gotten more anemic.
Rose was high scorer for Temple with 12 points. He shot but 5-16 from the field.NPL scored 4 points and shot 2-9 from the field, Moorman scored 2 points shooting 1-8 from the field. So much for Temple’s starters. Perry was 0-6 from the field.
Temple’s offense was exposed tonight as it had no half-court sets that work. Has been that way all season.
Temple shot 20 percent on three’s (5-25), and Alani scored three of Temple’s 5 three’s by shooting 3-8 on three’s.
Tulsa shot 59 percent on two’s (19-32).
Temple’s pressure defense was non-existent tonight. As no attempt was stop Tulsa’s 3-ball, as Tulsa shot 8-25 on three’s. Tulsa scored 24 -of their 70 points on three’s.
Tulsa was the aggressor on defense, not Temple. Temple forced 17 Temple turnovers, Temple forced but 13 Tulsa turnovers. Tulsa had 13 steals.
Rose had five turnovers. Had four turnovers last game. Opponents will soon learn they should not foul him on his drives, as he rarely comes close to hitting the basket. Nate shot 2-9 from the field tonight.
Josh, Nate’s brother, shot 3-5 from the field, but that was negated by his three turnovers, mostly on bad passes.
Freshman D.Dunn had an inauspicious debut. Shot 0-4 from the field, turned the ball over twice, but did have 4 rebounds. Made lots of bad decisions. Didn’t do that in HS. Will take time for him to adjust to the speed of the college game. Was a good game to get his feet wet and see what he needs to do to clean-up his game.
Scott was out with an ankle injury he suffered yesterday. Should be back for the Houston game on Tuesday night at home.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-04-2020 01:56 PM
McKie would be wise letting Alani distribute the ball rather than Rose as that experiment has failed. As Rose turns the ball over once every 13.6 minutes, Alani once every 25 minutes.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Alani among the top players in the nation committing the fewest turnovers per minute. Rose’s turnovers are costing Temple points, and gifting opponents more points.
Not good that Nate is not only shooting poorly, but that he also has committed more turnovers in last six games than he has made steals.
His brother Josh has not fixed his glaring weaknesses of committing turnovers and fouling too frequently. He’s averaging 1 turnover every 13 minutes by making dumb passes. Last night, Josh played 20 minutes and commited 3 turnovers, or almost 1 every 7 minutes. It thwarts Temple from getting into any kind of rhythm. His turnover problem should have been cleaned up by the coaches long again. His turnovers offsets him scoring 8 points last night and shooting 3-5 from the field.
Josh also commits 1 foul every 11.6 minutes. Alani commits 1 foul every 20 minutes, almost half less fouls than Josh. Scott also fouls less often than Josh does.
Not pleased with Josh continuing to try to dunk the ball and risk missing, when he has a easy lay-up. He has been told by the coaches to just lay the ball in, but he refuses to listen to them.
Don’t think Josh should play as many minutes as he does until he learns just to make short safe passes, and not kohl by keeping his hands off opponents.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-05-2020 04:00 PM
HC McKie said he didn’t want Temple to shoot 25 three’s in a game because Temple is not a three point shooting team. He seems to ignore the fact that Temple shoots three’s better than it’s opponents, and more importantly shoots three’s at a higher equivalent percentage than it shoots two’s. Which means that Temple was better off shooting three’s than shooting two’s .
Mckie forgets that Temple won games shooting three’s- as Temple beat Rider shooting 11-24 on three’s; Temple was 10-27 on three’s against Texas A and M, 10-30 against USC who Temple beat. Temple shot 14-31 on three’s against Maryland in a loss.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-08-2020 12:20 AM
Tough loss as Houston beat Temple by four points, 78-74. Such occurred even though Temple shot a higher percentage on 2’s, 3’s, and scored more points at the foul-line than Houston did.
Houton’s HC Kevin Sampson has designed a a gimmicky offense that is very effective.it’s gimmicky because it’s based on shooting two point jumpers which Samson knows is converted by college teams at a low percentage rather than go to hoop which which is converted at a much higher percentage, but is subject to more turnover, while two point jump shots are not.
What I object is a coach deciding to have his players shoot 2-point jumpers knowing they will be shot at a low rate, and making his offense dependent on get far more offensive rebounds then the opponent.
It works at Houston had 19 second chance points compared to Temple’s 11.
If you believe how you win doesn’t matter as long as win then I guess you support what Sampson is doing.
Here’s what Houston does to win games: .
Houston play a HS offense and take lots of 2-point jump shots so they don’t turn the ball over very much. They have good rebounders and rely on crashing the offensive boards so they get easy put-backs.
Houston’s offense is premised on winning the offensive rebounding battle by a good margin so they take far more FGA’s then their opponents, and not shooting a higher percentage on two’s. Their main mission is take more FGA’s so they can score more fg made than their opponents do.
And that’s what happened in this game as Houston had 23 offensive rebounds to Temple’s 13 offensive rebounds.
It does look at times that Houston players violate the three second rule in the paint but it’s not called.
This enabled to take 71 FGA’s compared to Temple’s 60. By Joustin shooting so many two point jumpers, which teams shoot at a lower percentage than 2’s scored at the hoop, Houston knows that in most games, it will shoot a lower percentage on two’s then it’s opponents do.
But Houston knows that by taking 11 more FGA’s than Temple did, it knows that even if Temple makes more of it’s two’s that Houston will score more field goals. And that’s what happened in this game as Houston made 30 field, goals, Temple 26, even with Temple shooting a highe oercentage on two’s.
Temple had to win the three-point battle against Houston. They didn’t. As both Houston and Temple each made 6-three’s. As Temple shot only 13 three’s, and shot three’s at 46.1 percent (6-13), an impressive rate. That’s equivalent to shooting 64 percent on two’s. Houston took 10 more three’s than Temple did., but made only the same number of 3’s as Temple. Those Bouston’s missed three kept the game as close it was in the final score.,
Houston shot a low-percentage on their 2-point jump shot but increased that percentage with easy put-backs off their missed 2-point jump shots. thT pushed Houston’s put backs to 51 percent (25-49).
Temple took 11 fewer 2-pointers than Houston, but Temple still managed to shoot 52.6 percent (20-38) on 2’s.l, which was higher than Houston did. But because Houston took 17 more 2’s, Houston made 4 more two’s then Temple that resulted in Houston scoring 8 more points than Temple did on 2’s.
Temple went slightly more than Houston did but given that Hoston shot poorly at the foul-line, Temple outscored Houston by 4-points at the foul line.
Subtracting the four points from Houston’s 8 more points scored on 2’s, explains why Temple lost by 4 points, 78.-74.
The way to beat Houston is to play a pressure defense so their bigs don’t have to help out perimeter players are in not in position to dominate the offensive glass by hanging around the rim, and to cause lots of Houston’s turnovers. Mckie did not do that as Temple caused only 5 Houston turnovers in the game.
Alani who has averaged taking 6.7 three’s per game, and converts an average of 2.6 three’s per game. Playing Houston, Alani didn’t shoot any three’
Perry who is shooting 45.9 percent on three’s, and averaged taking 2.8 per game, and making 1.3 three’s per game, only took one three and made it. He looked like he was petrified to even shoot the ball last night as he took but three shots in the 26 minutes he played.
Moorman shot 2-5 on three’s.
Rose had a good game as he scored 21-points, shot 5-10 from the field, shot 2-3 on three’s, and 9-11 from the foul-line.Rose changed his form by pausing in the shooting pocket, thus steadying the ball before releasing it.
Nate shot 5-14 last night. He should not have taken so many shots as Temple had four other players who made at least half their fga’s.
Scott should have played more, as he shot 2-4 from the field, including 1-1 on three’s.
Temple got killed on the boards, as Houston had 23 offensive rebounds to Temple’s 8. Temple could have kept Houston from going to the boards as often as they did, by fast breaking off the of defensive boards. Temple didn’t do that.
Temple did outscore Houston the second half by 8-points. It’s zone defense helped.
POSTSCRIPT:
It took Baylor in the Final Four of this year’s NCAA Tournament to expose Houston’s gimmickry offense. As Baylor could rebound with Houston. As a result, Houston found itself scoring only 20 points in the first half and 17 of those points were by one Houston. At halftime, Baylor was up by 25 points, 45-20. I predicted on the AAC Message board that the game would be over at half-time sometime before the game and it was. Baylor won the game by 19-points.
was vilified there.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-08-2020 09:36 AM
This Houston game was one of the this rare games in which Temple scored well in half-court sets as Temple scored 47-points in the second half, and outscored Houston by 8-point in the second half.
Scott, in the second half, nailed a three from deep in the corner with a man in his face, and another time, glided to the hoop for a lay-up. He showed glimpses of his scoring potential.Temple didn’t miss a beat when he subbed in for Rose in the second half. He also showed he could run the offense and find the open man inside or outside. Would have had more than 1 assist but for players not finishing their shots. He had 3 rebounds.
Scott needed to play more than the 14 minutes he played, especially since Josh played 12 minutes, shot 0-3 from the field, including a missed dunk when he had a easy lay-up. Very costly play. Josh’s minutes should go to Scott.
Also Nate should not have shot as much as he did as he shot only 5-14 from the field. He took Temple’s most shots.
Perry played 26 minutes and took but three shots, and shot 1-1 on three’s.
Once again, Moorman missed some three-pointers as he rushed his shots, and shot the ball with too much velocity. It’s bad enough to have one problem shooting a three-ball, he has two.
Rose still continues to have trouble finishing at the rim by not slowing down on his last step, and getting control of his body and the ball before he releases it.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-10-2020 09:34 AM
Here’s an example of Nate’s bad decision-making in the Houston game. Nate subbed into the game when it was a tight game in the second half. Scott had scored five points that gave Temple the lead. But Houston had regained the lead.
Nate has the ball and was on the far left wing. Rather then keep the ball moving, Nate stopped and held the ball. This forced Scott to come to the left side of the foul line to help bail him out. Being pressured, Nate passed the ball to Scott who unbeknownst to him was surrounded by three guys. Scott mistakenly dribbled once, and one of the defenders ripped the ball from Scott’s hands, and that led an easy hoop. It was a bang bang play. Nate messes up by not pasing the ball to Alani on the perimeter, and Scott messed up by having the ball ripped from him. Immediately after that play, McKie blaming Scott for the turnover pulled Scott from the game. Should not have.
Rose subbed in for Scott. Rose should have subbed-in for Perry who was reluctant to shoot the ball the whole game. Temple needed Scott to finish the game as he was Temple’s hot shooter at the time. Rose finished the game shooting 1-4 from the field.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-10-2020 11:01 AM
Why Nate’s shooting stats are not worthy of a Temple staring shooting guard. His defense, stealing, and rebounding require that he be on the court.,
Nate shot well in Temple’s first three games against because he made steals and converted lay-ups on the other end. That’s his recipe being successful. But he’s cut-down on making steals.
Since then he’s shot well in two other games-Davidson and St. Joe’s. Many of his made 2’s are off steals.
As he’s only shooting 19.4 percent (7-36) on three’s for the season.
Here’s his stats from 9 games that he either took few 2’s, or shot them terribly. He shot only 33 percent in on 2’s (16-48).
2 for 6
0 for 5
2 for 4
0 for 2
1 for 1
2 for 4
2 for 6
2 for 7
5 for 13
Mckie has to change Temple’s defense so it makes more steals. Would help increase shooting percentages and provide Templexwith more points.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-11-2020 03:01 PM
Today’s game against Tulane was a complete debacle as Tulane defeated Temple by 14-points, 65-51.
It’s one thing for players to miss many shots, it’s another to play basketball like you have no idea how to play. That’s what happened in this game.
Temple had 16 turnovers. As players continually crashed and burned at the hoop, and made bad decisions passing the ball that resulted in them being intercepted. Tulane had 14 turnovers. Tulane scored 21 points off of Temple’s turnovers, but Temple only scored 9-points off of Tulane’s turnovers. The reason is Tulane scored 12 more points off of only three more Temple turnovers is because Tulane’s turnovers were of a nature that Temple could not readily score. Whether they were balls thrown out of bounds balls turned over inside rather than outside the paint is not known. What is known is that Temple’s turnover were more easily converted in turnovers.
Players shot balls shots that came nowhere near the cylinder.
Temple’s defense was bad as Temple made no attempt to stop the three-ball which resulted in Tulane making 9-three’’s by shooting 36 percent (9-25) on three’s. Almost half of Tulane’s points were made three’s as 27 points of Tulane’s 61 total points were three’s. Temple also failed to stop Tulsa’s three’s in the prior game.
Temple didn’t stop 2-point shots either as Tulane shot 51 percent (15-29) on two’s.
Temple’s shot but 16 percent on three’s (4-25). Temple shot 2’s poorly as well as Temple made just 12 two’s shooting 40 percent on two’s (12-30).
Rose was 4-12 from the field, Nate 3-10, and Dre Perry 2-8. Temple dominated the offensive boards, 10-5, but Temple shot so poorly, that made no difference in outcome of the game.
Looks like Temple having any chance of having a good record in conference play is evaporating, and Temple’s fans will endure disappointments the rest of the season with many ups and downs.
Temple now finds itself starting off conference play with a 1-3 AAC record having beat UCF, then having lost to UCF, followed by three straight losses to Tulsa, Houston, and Tulane.
POSTsCRIPT
When Temple’s later played a re-match on Tulane’s home court, as we shall later see, the result was far different as McKie made a drastic change to the line-up the second-half of that game.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - BraveKnight - 01-13-2020 09:47 PM
Miggy are you the only one on here?
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-15-2020 11:57 PM
Temple next overcame three straight AAC losses and beat Wichita State, ranked 16th in the nation, by 12-points, 65-53.
Temple shot 52 percent on two’s compared to WSU’s shooting 38 percent on two’s. Temple scored 8 more points at the foul-line than WSU did. Each team scored but three-three’s.
Rose led Temple scoring with 18-points, on 5-13 shooting. Nate shot 3-8 from the field. If Rose and Nate had let better shooters shoot the ball Temple would have scored even more points. Scott and Forrester stepped-up as each scored 11-points.
Temple’s offense was set back by Temple committing 20 turnovers, led by Nate with six, Rose and Forrester each had three turnovers. Temple’s turnovers took a lot of points off the score board.
Nate had 12 rebounds, Scott 5, and Parks 5. Moorman and Forrester had zero rebounds. WSU had eight more offensive rebounds than Temple did.
Scott had a nice non-shooting line as in 26 minutes as he had 1 steal, no turnovers, and committed but 1-foul. Rose was not good running Temple’s half-court offense.
Temple scored just 26-points in the first half of the WS game. McKie With Scott playing a good bit in the second half helped Temple score 39-points.
Temple goes on the road and faces SMU this Saturday at 8:00 pm. One can only hope they don’t squander the excellent win they had tonight.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-17-2020 02:13 AM
Temple has seen it’s conference scoring average over the last 5 games pummel to 59.2 ppg.
After starting off the season committing few turnovers, Temple has been consistently sliding backwards as it commits more and more turnovers. Such takes points open the scorecard.
The ball should instead be placed more in the hands of Scott and Alani who rarely turn the ball over and are better shooters than both Rose and NPL.
Temple would also score more points if Rose and NPL were deprived their role as primary ball handlers, and thus they wouldn’t shoot as much and that’s a good thing. As NPL is taking Temple second most shots, and shooting just 34 percent on two’s and 18 percent on 3’s in conference games. Rose is taking Temple’s most shots, and averaging but 40 percent on 2’s, and 26 percent on three’s. If they played and shot less, better shooters would be shooting more. Given Rose and Nate’s poor play, Temple has had to rely solely on it’s defense to win games. Shouldn’t be that way. Recent losses show that the obvious is not not getting thru to the HC.
Temple has also missed Alani’s scoring on three’s. He’s taking half as many three’s in conference games. This is do to both his not being played as much as in in non-conference games, and defenses are concentrating on him. McKie needs to play an in-out game, set picks, do down-screens, in order to get him open looks.
Like to see Hamilton play more than Forrester does in conference games. As in conference games so far, Hamilton has shot as well, gets to the foul-line more, rebounds as well, and makes three times the number of blocks as Forrester does.
Hamilton also has better hands and commits 2/3 less turnovers and fouls than Forrester does. Forrester should not be playing more than Hamilton as he has in conference games. Hamilton should be stationed by the rim to force opponents scoring down.
Hamilton should also play some of Moorman’s minutes as well. Like to see
JPL is just too inexperienced to playas he commits far too many turnovers and fouls.
Suspect Temple would perform way better with Scott and Alani on the floor. Scott should not be paired with JPL.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-19-2020 12:21 AM
With the loss tonight to SMU 68-52, Temple’s record falls to 2-4 in conference play.
Temple’s defense was excellent in the first half-half, holding SMU to only 25-points. But Temple’s offense was once again sub-par scoring just 27-points.
McKie followed his MO in losing games, by letting both Rose and Nate handle and turn the ball over a good bit, and having them shoot and miss a lot shots without ever subbing-in for them. Such assured that Temple would score but 51 points.
Temple turned the ball over through-out the game. Temple’s early season advantage in committing fewer turnovers, has not only vanished, but we now see Temple committing more turnovers than their opponents.
Rose and Nate combined for 8 of Temple’s 20 turnovers, with Rose committing 5 turnovers, Nate had 3 turnovers. As a result, Temple has turned the ball over more than their opponents in 5 of Temple’s last 6 games. Mckie’s inability to make adjustments is astonishing.
Temple made no attempt to stop SMU from shooting three’s, and SMU shot 36 percent on 9-25 shooting. SMU scored 27 of it’s 35 points on three’s, similiar to Temple’s loss to Tulane.
Rose did take 11 shots, and scored but 10 points on 3-11 shooting for the game. Never should have played 32 minutes as he did. Temple would have played better if he was on the bench.
McKie doesn’t get all the blame as Temple players did not shoot well. That’s not to say that any other Temple played well as Moorman finished 1-7 from the field, Alani 1-5, and Scott 2-7, Nate 3-7, and Forrester 5-13.
McKie in his post-game comments said that Forrester needs more touches. He’s decent offensively, but don’t see him as a high-volume shooter since Forrester doesn’t have good hands and is turnover prone.
Beyond me why McKie doesn’t tell Josh to never put his hands on offensive players as he does, so he’ll stop committing so many dumb fouls.
Alani played so well in non-conference games and not so farcin conference games. Place some of that on the coach by not putting him in good positions to succeed. Should be having Alani penetrating to get opponent defenses to collapse, and for Alani then to then pass the ball to the wing. That not happening. Instead, McKie has Alani passing to ball aimlessly side to side. Very ineffective.
Nate’s on drives has problems even getting the ball to reach the backboard on some drives. Didn’t have this problem last season.
The biggest disappointment in the game was Perry, Temple’s best shooter for not shooting more. Took but one shot, a three, and made it. He should be playing more and told to shoot the ball.
Temple’s shot but 32-percent for the game. All we need to know.
Don’t understand why Hamilton did not sub-in.
Temple’s defense held SMU to scoring 68 points, but SMU scored 43 points in the second half on 54 percent shooting, and won by 12 points.
As SMU regained their footing in the second half, Temple players started to snipe and point-fingers at each other for mistakes being made. Not good.
Scott finally showed what he could to do getting to the rim by finishing a reverse layup up in the open court, and making a lay-up on an awful pass from Rose.
Scott short-changed by the refs twice. Should have been 4-7, not 2-7 shooting. As he had a ball blocked on it’s way down that should have been called as a goal-tend.Scott made a lay-up, he was called for a turnover, when in fact, he was fouled, and should have been at the foul-line for a three-point play. Awful call.
Moorman has two different deliveries. Sometimes he’ll shoot from the waist with one motion and put too much velocity on the ball resulting in the ball hitting the back iron. Other times he brings the ball to the shooting pocket and pauses, which is good, and then shoots the ball with too much velocity, resulting in the ball flying beyond the hoop.
It’s not good to watch Alani only looked for Rose or Nate, and Nate and his brother almost never looking to pass the ball to Scott.
Temple is on a downward spiral, and some of us could see than coming if changes not made. One can only hope McKie mixes up his starting line-up, allocates playing time on merit, and changes who distributes and shoots the ball.
Right now, Moorman is not playing good on defense nor on offense. Didn’t block out on rebounds. Perry much better interior defender. If healthy, Perry should start at PF. Play Hamilton at PF as well. Would be wise for McKie to consider moving Rose to PF and tell him to rebound, and to move Scott into the starting line-up. Or for Scott to sub in for Alani when he’s struggling.
At a minimum, ball has to be taken out of Rose’s hands.
With it’s loss to SMU, Temple look is now 1-4 in AAC games, having endured 4 straight conference losses.
POSTSCRiPT:
Temple’s 16 point loss to SMU will be vindicated when the need later in a re-match game. One again, McKie will mix things up to make that happen.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-21-2020 05:50 AM
After Temple’s horrendous shooting against SMU, was disappointing to hear HC McKie say that the remedy is for Forrester to shoot more. Given how turnover prone he is that’s not a fix as they more times Forrester has the ball there’s an increase in the likelihood he will commit a turnover.
Was hoping to hear that he was going to find ways to get Temple’s good three-point shooters-Perry and A.Moore more shots, and that he intended to continue to integrate scott more into Temple’s offense. That solution would have provided Temple with more scoring opportunities.
And given how poorly Moorman has played, needs to play far less.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-23-2020 06:07 AM
Tempe lost to UCinn 89-82.
Temple had previously scored over 80 points playing Houston. Unfortunately, Temple’s defense was nowhere to be found.
Temple was led by Rose and NPL scoring 26 and 22-points respectively. Rose shot 8-13 from the field, including 4-5 on three’s, and NPL shot 9-15 from the field.
Alani Moore scored 14-points, including shooting 4-6 on three’s.
Temple shot 50 percent on two’s (22-44), and 56 percent on three’s (9-16). Temple should have shot way more three’s in order Temple to have been in a better position to beat Cincy.
Alani Moore was red-hot in the first half shooting 4-4 on three’s. But in the second half, players did not to pass the ball to him nor did HC Mckie create plays for him to get him open.
Nor did Forrester ever look to kick the ball out to the three-point line for open three’s. That’s fundamental basketball.
Scott probably should not have played as he played sick.
Rose and Nate combined for 5 turnovers, half of Temple’s total of 10 turnovers. It’s very frustrating to watch them play as they go back and forth making a good play, then a bad one.
Nate continues to show he has bad handles and poor decision-making in passing the ball. Rose also made dumb turnovers. Both, at times, showed very poor decision-making by driving to the hoop when the defense was set to stop them.
Temple players fouled excessively, and that cost them the game, as Temple committed 24 fouls compared to Cincy’s 17. By fouling early in each half, Cincy was in the bonus early on. Temple players fouled shooters way more than Cincy did. Cincy scored 17-more points than Temple did at the foul-line.
Hamilton in limited playing time fouled-out with five fouls.
While Temple’s strength has been it’s defense, it was non-existent in this game.
Nate had an awful game both guarding Jarron Cumberland on the perimeter and staying with him on drives. Temple also made no attempt to stop the three-ball, as Cincy shot 39 percent on 9-23 shooting on three’s. Temple 2-point defense was even worse as Cincy shot a whopping 72 percent on 2’s (27-37).
D.Moore in the second-half did an excellent job denying Vogt the ball, but he was still pulled from the game.
Temple played erratically on both offense and defense.Can’t seem to play consistently good basketball. Temple plays competitively, but often comes-up short finishing games.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-25-2020 06:33 PM
Penn beats Temple 65-59.
Didn’t watch the game, bur I checked the score every so often, and was shocked that Temple didn’t score at all in the first nine minutes of the game. Temple was outscored in the first half 25-16.
Mckie started Alani Morse, NPL, Rose, Moorman and Forrester who had performed poorly in the first half both in non-conference and conference games that Temple had lost.
Temple’s pressure defense helped limit Penn scoring down to 25 points in the first half, as Penn made but 2 of the 10 three’s it shot in the first half.
At the same time, Temple missed all 4 three’s, Temple took, iand made but six 2n’s in the first half, as Temple shot poorly.
The game was by and large determined by Temple shooting 1-13 on three’s, and Penn shooting 7 for 20 on three’s. That’s 6 more 3’s or 18 more points scored by Penn than Temple did on three’s. Temple couldn’t over come that deficit.
In the second half Temple cut down pressuring Penn and Penn went to made 50 percent (5-10) of three’s. Temple shot but 1-9 on three’s in the second half.
Rose shot 0-3 on three’s, Alani Moore was 0-3 on three’s and Scott 0-4 on three’s.
Virtually all Temple players shot poorly. As Rose shot 10-25 and scored 20 points. NPL shot 2-12 from the field, Moorman 28 from the field, Alani Moore shot 1-6 from the field. Forrester shot 5-12 from the field. Scott shot 3-10 from the field, including 3-6 on two’s. He should have shot more two’s and less three’s.
Scotf struggled to hit his three’s. One reason for that he changed his shooting form and didn’t realize that.
In the second half Temple outscored Penn 43-41,
Temple forced 17 PEnn turnover and made 10 steals. UPenn forced but 5 Temple turnovers and made but 3 steals. Temple’s steals and forced turnovers occurred mostly in the first half and that’s why Penn scored but 25 points.
By Temple committing far fewer turnovers than Pennsuch kept Temple in the game as Temple took way more shots then Penn, and in spite of Temple shooting so poorly.
When Temple scored 16 points in the first half, Temple shot but 21 percent (6-26) on two’s . Temple shot better in the second half and scored 43 points, but for the game, Temple took 62 two’s and made but 22 of them or 35 percent of all two’s taken. Penn took only 32 two’s, made 16 of them and shot 50 percent on two’s for the game.
Penn invested other FGA’s attempts in three’s and that paid off for them as they made five more three’s than Temple did.
Temple is now 8-4 in non-conference games.
Temple’s play has steadily declined from the beginning of the season when Temple was winning games. This season has been disheartening and painful to watch.
RE: Temple men’s bb 2019-2020 - Miggy - 01-29-2020 09:13 PM
Temple continued it’s free-fall so as UConn beat Temple by 15- points, 78-63.
Temple is now has a 2-6 AAC record, with Temple having lost 6 out of it’s last 7 conference games.
Temple did everything they couldn’t afford to do against UConn, as Temple committed 18-turnovers and 24-fouls, the later resulting in 28 UConn made foul-shots. Temple took only 11 three-point attempts, but made 4 three’s.
Temple has managed to go from scoring 30 points or so in first half to in the last two games only scoring 16 and 20 points in the first half of these games. Maybe just maybe Mckie should change the starting line-up.
Rose committed 4 of Temple’s 10 turnovers in the first-half. But worse of all, Rose scoring but 15-points, shooting but 33 percent on 6-18 fga’s. Such should Boyle be acceptable. Missing 12 shots of 18 attempts hurts a team. Nate scored 20-points tonight because he went outside Temple’s offensive sets and powered his way to the hoop, and also got to the foul-line.
Alani needs to get more than two shots in the first half. Forrester should have shot more as well since he shot well.
With Perry, out, McKie has to get more from Hamilton and Scott than he has. Hamilton shot well last season. Scott having no plays run for him in the first half.
Too many of Temple’s returning players simply not producing.
In retrospect, wish McKie had kept Dunphy on as an assistant. Realize some posters glad to see him go, but he’s missed.
POSTSCRIPT:
When Temple next played UCOnn at home, the game finished quite different, as changes McKie had made in the second meeting with SMU and Tulane carried over to the Uconn game. Will discuss all three of theshose games LTer in this thread.