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RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - TripleA - 03-08-2019 07:34 PM

(03-08-2019 05:43 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 05:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 04:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  IMO, Memphis has to win the AAC Tourney to earn a bid, but the Tiger’s NET (#49) is in the Bubble neighborhood.

beat the three T's...Tulsa, Tulane, and Temple...and things could get interesting for Memphis.

#FakeNews

You'll need a T, T, T, H sweep to make things interesting.

Agree. THEN we have a shot if we keep it close in the final. But if we beat Houston, we can just win the whole damn thing, and remove all doubt.


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - TripleA - 03-08-2019 07:36 PM

(03-08-2019 06:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 06:50 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 04:48 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 04:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  IMO, Memphis has to win the AAC Tourney to earn a bid, but the Tiger’s NET (#49) is in the Bubble neighborhood.

Memphis has such a weird resume.

Good:
NET 49
SOS 28
Average NET Loss: 45

Average:
KP: 68
Sag: 62

Bad
9-12 in Q1-3 games. (3-11 in Q1/Q2)
Average NET win: 187

So overall good schedule. No really bad losses, very few really good wins.

Obviously a few wins in the AAC tourney would help.
If we make it to the championship game and beat Tulsa to end the season, it would put us in the 30s NET with at least one more tier 1 win. I think that would be enough, but not sure

In that scenario Memphis might get in (depending on the size of the bubble) but probably only at the expense of Temple. Chances of us getting 5 bids is pretty much 0%.

Agree. I think Temple needs to beat UCF and Memphis to get in, for sure. If they lose to both, I think they are out. If they win one and lose one, it's close, but I think they make it.


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - WhoseHouse? - 03-08-2019 07:44 PM

(03-08-2019 07:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 06:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 06:50 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 04:48 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 04:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  IMO, Memphis has to win the AAC Tourney to earn a bid, but the Tiger’s NET (#49) is in the Bubble neighborhood.

Memphis has such a weird resume.

Good:
NET 49
SOS 28
Average NET Loss: 45

Average:
KP: 68
Sag: 62

Bad
9-12 in Q1-3 games. (3-11 in Q1/Q2)
Average NET win: 187

So overall good schedule. No really bad losses, very few really good wins.

Obviously a few wins in the AAC tourney would help.
If we make it to the championship game and beat Tulsa to end the season, it would put us in the 30s NET with at least one more tier 1 win. I think that would be enough, but not sure

In that scenario Memphis might get in (depending on the size of the bubble) but probably only at the expense of Temple. Chances of us getting 5 bids is pretty much 0%.

Agree. I think Temple needs to beat UCF and Memphis to get in, for sure. If they lose to both, I think they are out. If they win one and lose one, it's close, but I think they make it.

If I'm reading the tiebreaker right, I think if Temple beats UCF they'll get the #3 seed. That would place Memphis and Temple on opposite sides of the bracket. If that happens a Memphis-Temple final is probably the only shot we have a 5 bids.


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - ShockerFever - 03-08-2019 09:35 PM

(03-08-2019 01:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 10:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:08 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 01:14 AM)pesik Wrote:  likely final projections (if everyone who is "supposed" to win, wins their last game)

1) houston
2) ucf
3) uc
4) temple
5) memphis
6) wichita
7) usf
8) tulsa
9) uconn
10) smu
11) ecu
12) tulane

If this holds true, and Memphis gets to the tournament final and loses, how could they keep us out? That would be 22-13 w/ wins over Temple (x2), UCF, and Houston - all likely NCAA teams. And whether people want to admit it or not, there's some committee bias still involved. They set up intriguing matchups when possible and I think Penny being the Memphis coach adds a little "star power" that might give us the nod over some teams if its a razor thin margin.

No.

I'm sure you would hope that, but I think AACT wins over Tulane, UCF/Temple and Houston might do it. It would certainly be close at that point, and not a slam dunk either way. Assuming of course, we beat Tulsa tomorrow.

I'm not telling you what I would hope would happen. I'm telling you that it's AAC Mid Major Conference Tournament or bust. Period.

I'm a neutral observer here. You're a biased homer. Sorry.


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - TripleA - 03-08-2019 09:55 PM

(03-08-2019 07:44 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 07:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 06:55 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 06:50 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 04:48 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  Memphis has such a weird resume.

Good:
NET 49
SOS 28
Average NET Loss: 45

Average:
KP: 68
Sag: 62

Bad
9-12 in Q1-3 games. (3-11 in Q1/Q2)
Average NET win: 187

So overall good schedule. No really bad losses, very few really good wins.

Obviously a few wins in the AAC tourney would help.
If we make it to the championship game and beat Tulsa to end the season, it would put us in the 30s NET with at least one more tier 1 win. I think that would be enough, but not sure

In that scenario Memphis might get in (depending on the size of the bubble) but probably only at the expense of Temple. Chances of us getting 5 bids is pretty much 0%.

Agree. I think Temple needs to beat UCF and Memphis to get in, for sure. If they lose to both, I think they are out. If they win one and lose one, it's close, but I think they make it.

If I'm reading the tiebreaker right, I think if Temple beats UCF they'll get the #3 seed. That would place Memphis and Temple on opposite sides of the bracket. If that happens a Memphis-Temple final is probably the only shot we have a 5 bids.

You're right. I posted it somewhere else, but forgot it here. If Temple beats UCF, they will get the 3 seed. So if they even got to the semifinal, and Memphis won the thing, we could get 5 in. Not likely at all, but not impossible.


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - DowdyPirate - 03-08-2019 09:59 PM

Where’s the Bracketology? Are the pirates in?


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - TripleA - 03-08-2019 09:59 PM

(03-08-2019 09:35 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 01:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 10:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:08 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 01:14 AM)pesik Wrote:  likely final projections (if everyone who is "supposed" to win, wins their last game)

1) houston
2) ucf
3) uc
4) temple
5) memphis
6) wichita
7) usf
8) tulsa
9) uconn
10) smu
11) ecu
12) tulane

If this holds true, and Memphis gets to the tournament final and loses, how could they keep us out? That would be 22-13 w/ wins over Temple (x2), UCF, and Houston - all likely NCAA teams. And whether people want to admit it or not, there's some committee bias still involved. They set up intriguing matchups when possible and I think Penny being the Memphis coach adds a little "star power" that might give us the nod over some teams if its a razor thin margin.

No.

I'm sure you would hope that, but I think AACT wins over Tulane, UCF/Temple and Houston might do it. It would certainly be close at that point, and not a slam dunk either way. Assuming of course, we beat Tulsa tomorrow.

I'm not telling you what I would hope would happen. I'm telling you that it's AAC Mid Major Conference Tournament or bust. Period.

I'm a neutral observer here. You're a biased homer. Sorry.

A neutral observer? 03-lmfao

News flash. Saying Memphis has a chance to make the NCAA if they beat Tulsa, Tulane, Temple or UCF, and Houston is NOT homerish, lol.


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Crowley's Ridge Tiger - 03-08-2019 09:59 PM

(03-08-2019 09:35 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 01:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 10:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:08 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 01:14 AM)pesik Wrote:  likely final projections (if everyone who is "supposed" to win, wins their last game)

1) houston
2) ucf
3) uc
4) temple
5) memphis
6) wichita
7) usf
8) tulsa
9) uconn
10) smu
11) ecu
12) tulane

If this holds true, and Memphis gets to the tournament final and loses, how could they keep us out? That would be 22-13 w/ wins over Temple (x2), UCF, and Houston - all likely NCAA teams. And whether people want to admit it or not, there's some committee bias still involved. They set up intriguing matchups when possible and I think Penny being the Memphis coach adds a little "star power" that might give us the nod over some teams if its a razor thin margin.

No.

I'm sure you would hope that, but I think AACT wins over Tulane, UCF/Temple and Houston might do it. It would certainly be close at that point, and not a slam dunk either way. Assuming of course, we beat Tulsa tomorrow.

I'm not telling you what I would hope would happen. I'm telling you that it's AAC Mid Major Conference Tournament or bust. Period.

I'm a neutral observer here. You're a biased homer. Sorry.

Do you think the Tigers getting to the AACTCG even puts them on the bubble?


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - TripleA - 03-08-2019 10:03 PM

(03-08-2019 09:59 PM)Crowleys Ridge Tiger Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:35 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 01:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 10:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:08 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  If this holds true, and Memphis gets to the tournament final and loses, how could they keep us out? That would be 22-13 w/ wins over Temple (x2), UCF, and Houston - all likely NCAA teams. And whether people want to admit it or not, there's some committee bias still involved. They set up intriguing matchups when possible and I think Penny being the Memphis coach adds a little "star power" that might give us the nod over some teams if its a razor thin margin.

No.

I'm sure you would hope that, but I think AACT wins over Tulane, UCF/Temple and Houston might do it. It would certainly be close at that point, and not a slam dunk either way. Assuming of course, we beat Tulsa tomorrow.

I'm not telling you what I would hope would happen. I'm telling you that it's AAC Mid Major Conference Tournament or bust. Period.

I'm a neutral observer here. You're a biased homer. Sorry.

Do you think the Tigers getting to the AACTCG even puts them on the bubble?

Of course it does. Maybe not in, but certainly under consideration.


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Crowley's Ridge Tiger - 03-08-2019 10:08 PM

(03-08-2019 10:03 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:59 PM)Crowleys Ridge Tiger Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:35 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 01:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 10:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  No.

I'm sure you would hope that, but I think AACT wins over Tulane, UCF/Temple and Houston might do it. It would certainly be close at that point, and not a slam dunk either way. Assuming of course, we beat Tulsa tomorrow.

I'm not telling you what I would hope would happen. I'm telling you that it's AAC Mid Major Conference Tournament or bust. Period.

I'm a neutral observer here. You're a biased homer. Sorry.

Do you think the Tigers getting to the AACTCG even puts them on the bubble?

Of course it does. Maybe not in, but certainly under consideration.

Just curious what he thinks, I need a laugh.


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - ShockerFever - 03-08-2019 10:37 PM

(03-08-2019 09:59 PM)Crowleys Ridge Tiger Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:35 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 01:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 10:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:08 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  If this holds true, and Memphis gets to the tournament final and loses, how could they keep us out? That would be 22-13 w/ wins over Temple (x2), UCF, and Houston - all likely NCAA teams. And whether people want to admit it or not, there's some committee bias still involved. They set up intriguing matchups when possible and I think Penny being the Memphis coach adds a little "star power" that might give us the nod over some teams if its a razor thin margin.

No.

I'm sure you would hope that, but I think AACT wins over Tulane, UCF/Temple and Houston might do it. It would certainly be close at that point, and not a slam dunk either way. Assuming of course, we beat Tulsa tomorrow.

I'm not telling you what I would hope would happen. I'm telling you that it's AAC Mid Major Conference Tournament or bust. Period.

I'm a neutral observer here. You're a biased homer. Sorry.

Do you think the Tigers getting to the AACTCG even puts them on the bubble?

They would get talked about but realistically, it's not gonna happen, for a multitude of reasons that have been mentioned already. We won't get 5 teams in and Memphis won't be leapfrogging Temple. If Temple doesn't go, Memphis won't go. And if Temple does go, that means we're already at 4. It's a numbers game.

Not this year Tigers (in terms of at-large)


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - ShockerFever - 03-08-2019 10:37 PM

Hope that was humorous for you.


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - ShockerFever - 03-08-2019 10:39 PM

(03-08-2019 09:59 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:35 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 01:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 10:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:08 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  If this holds true, and Memphis gets to the tournament final and loses, how could they keep us out? That would be 22-13 w/ wins over Temple (x2), UCF, and Houston - all likely NCAA teams. And whether people want to admit it or not, there's some committee bias still involved. They set up intriguing matchups when possible and I think Penny being the Memphis coach adds a little "star power" that might give us the nod over some teams if its a razor thin margin.

No.

I'm sure you would hope that, but I think AACT wins over Tulane, UCF/Temple and Houston might do it. It would certainly be close at that point, and not a slam dunk either way. Assuming of course, we beat Tulsa tomorrow.

I'm not telling you what I would hope would happen. I'm telling you that it's AAC Mid Major Conference Tournament or bust. Period.

I'm a neutral observer here. You're a biased homer. Sorry.

A neutral observer? 03-lmfao

News flash. Saying Memphis has a chance to make the NCAA if they beat Tulsa, Tulane, Temple or UCF, and Houston is NOT homerish, lol.

Hey genius. That's not what the original poster was saying. He stated "how could they leave Memphis out", implying they would be in.

A little reading comprehension goes a long ways here.


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Crowley's Ridge Tiger - 03-08-2019 10:46 PM

(03-08-2019 10:37 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Hope that was humorous for you.

The level of your transparency is very humorous. I can see a path without winning the tournament. It is no doubt a long shot at best but it does exists.


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - ShockerFever - 03-08-2019 10:55 PM

(03-08-2019 10:46 PM)Crowleys Ridge Tiger Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 10:37 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Hope that was humorous for you.

The level of your transparency is very humorous. I can see a path without winning the tournament. It is no doubt a long shot at best but it does exists.

Just remember there are about 15 other paths by 15 other teams not named Memphis that will be competing for the final at large spots as well. It's not simply a "we're Memphis, we just need to win x amount of games against x teams to get in". There's basketball being played outside of Memphis that will be effecting the at-large pool as well.

So if we're arguing that Memphis technically has a 1% chance of getting an at-large, well ok, you win.

If we're talking about Memphis's realistic chances of making the dance via an at large bid, well, in short, no. Which is what I stated in the beginning.


AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Stickboy46 - 03-08-2019 11:00 PM

(03-08-2019 09:59 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Where’s the Bracketology? Are the pirates in?


I do believe Seton Hall has a chance of making it in


AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Stickboy46 - 03-08-2019 11:03 PM

(03-08-2019 09:59 PM)Crowleys Ridge Tiger Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:35 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 01:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 10:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:08 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  If this holds true, and Memphis gets to the tournament final and loses, how could they keep us out? That would be 22-13 w/ wins over Temple (x2), UCF, and Houston - all likely NCAA teams. And whether people want to admit it or not, there's some committee bias still involved. They set up intriguing matchups when possible and I think Penny being the Memphis coach adds a little "star power" that might give us the nod over some teams if its a razor thin margin.

No.

I'm sure you would hope that, but I think AACT wins over Tulane, UCF/Temple and Houston might do it. It would certainly be close at that point, and not a slam dunk either way. Assuming of course, we beat Tulsa tomorrow.

I'm not telling you what I would hope would happen. I'm telling you that it's AAC Mid Major Conference Tournament or bust. Period.

I'm a neutral observer here. You're a biased homer. Sorry.

Do you think the Tigers getting to the AACTCG even puts them on the bubble?


So that would at most add 2 Q1 or Q2 wins. Tulsa at home is Q3. Tulane Neutral is Q4. So it would give you the 2 wins after that. It might get you to the bubble. But I'm not sure it's getting you on the right side of it. You would need a lot of help


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - ShockerFever - 03-08-2019 11:05 PM

(03-08-2019 11:03 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:59 PM)Crowleys Ridge Tiger Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:35 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 01:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 10:53 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  No.

I'm sure you would hope that, but I think AACT wins over Tulane, UCF/Temple and Houston might do it. It would certainly be close at that point, and not a slam dunk either way. Assuming of course, we beat Tulsa tomorrow.

I'm not telling you what I would hope would happen. I'm telling you that it's AAC Mid Major Conference Tournament or bust. Period.

I'm a neutral observer here. You're a biased homer. Sorry.

Do you think the Tigers getting to the AACTCG even puts them on the bubble?


So that would at most add 2 Q1 or Q2 wins. Tulsa at home is Q3. Tulane Neutral is Q4. So it would give you the 2 wins after that. It might get you to the bubble. But I'm not sure it's getting you on the right side of it. You would need a lot of help

All Memphis conference tournament games will be home games for NET purposes, FYI.


AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Stickboy46 - 03-08-2019 11:06 PM

(03-08-2019 11:05 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 11:03 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:59 PM)Crowleys Ridge Tiger Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 09:35 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 01:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I'm sure you would hope that, but I think AACT wins over Tulane, UCF/Temple and Houston might do it. It would certainly be close at that point, and not a slam dunk either way. Assuming of course, we beat Tulsa tomorrow.

I'm not telling you what I would hope would happen. I'm telling you that it's AAC Mid Major Conference Tournament or bust. Period.

I'm a neutral observer here. You're a biased homer. Sorry.

Do you think the Tigers getting to the AACTCG even puts them on the bubble?


So that would at most add 2 Q1 or Q2 wins. Tulsa at home is Q3. Tulane Neutral is Q4. So it would give you the 2 wins after that. It might get you to the bubble. But I'm not sure it's getting you on the right side of it. You would need a lot of help

All Memphis conference tournament games will be home games for NET purposes, FYI.


I think that is still TBD. Ive seen both ways posted.

If it is, that makes it worse for Memphis


RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Crowley's Ridge Tiger - 03-08-2019 11:24 PM

(03-08-2019 10:55 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 10:46 PM)Crowleys Ridge Tiger Wrote:  
(03-08-2019 10:37 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Hope that was humorous for you.

The level of your transparency is very humorous. I can see a path without winning the tournament. It is no doubt a long shot at best but it does exists.

Just remember there are about 15 other paths by 15 other teams not named Memphis that will be competing for the final at large spots as well. It's not simply a "we're Memphis, we just need to win x amount of games against x teams to get in". There's basketball being played outside of Memphis that will be effecting the at-large pool as well.

So if we're arguing that Memphis technically has a 1% chance of getting an at-large, well ok, you win.

If we're talking about Memphis's realistic chances of making the dance via an at large bid, well, in short, no. Which is what I stated in the beginning.

I agree, there's a lot of moving parts and a bunch of pieces would have to fall perfectly into place. I appreciate you giving me the win, you put up a good fight. 04-cheers