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So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - TrojanCampaign - 08-23-2017 08:37 AM
I was in Lynchburg for a few days and spent a lot of time at the campus. Driving around I noticed that Liberty was hanging Big East Conferences banners. I see that they are doing Field Hockey from a Google search. Are they also trying to get in for Baseball, Volleyball, and Soccer?
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - Shox - 08-23-2017 09:26 AM
(08-23-2017 08:37 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote: I was in Lynchburg for a few days and spent a lot of time at the campus. Driving around I noticed that Liberty was hanging Big East Conferences banners. I see that they are doing Field Hockey from a Google search. Are they also trying to get in for Baseball, Volleyball, and Soccer?
Are you sure they weren't Big South banners?
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - GoldenWarrior11 - 08-23-2017 09:48 AM
They are only affiliate members in Field Hockey.
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - mturn017 - 08-23-2017 09:51 AM
I don't think they can shop around for affiliate membership if their "home" conference (Big South/where they play men's BB) offer those sports. I could be wrong here though. The BS offers all those other sports you mentioned.
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - BePcr07 - 08-23-2017 10:07 AM
(08-23-2017 09:51 AM)mturn017 Wrote: I don't think they can shop around for affiliate membership if their "home" conference (Big South/where they play men's BB) offer those sports. I could be wrong here though. The BS offers all those other sports you mentioned.
There a handful of schools that are 1-sport affiliates in conferences despite their home conference sports sponsoring the sport. Outside of the Pioneer Football League, I am aware of maybe 7-8, but I don't have that info in front of me.
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - TrojanCampaign - 08-23-2017 03:02 PM
(08-23-2017 09:26 AM)Shox Wrote:(08-23-2017 08:37 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote: I was in Lynchburg for a few days and spent a lot of time at the campus. Driving around I noticed that Liberty was hanging Big East Conferences banners. I see that they are doing Field Hockey from a Google search. Are they also trying to get in for Baseball, Volleyball, and Soccer?
Are you sure they weren't Big South banners?
One hundred percent sure it was Big East.
Didn't know if it was only just for field hockey though.
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - jdgaucho - 08-23-2017 03:31 PM
The Big West allows for schools to be affiliates in up to three sports. Not sure about the Big East. I'm guessing each conference is different regarding affiliates?
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - jdgaucho - 08-23-2017 03:32 PM
(08-23-2017 08:37 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote: I was in Lynchburg for a few days and spent a lot of time at the campus. Driving around I noticed that Liberty was hanging Big East Conferences banners. I see that they are doing Field Hockey from a Google search. Are they also trying to get in for Baseball, Volleyball, and Soccer?
doubtful. At that point they're practically a full member.
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - gosports1 - 08-23-2017 08:17 PM
the BE has several affiliate members in field hockey M&W Lax
Some for more than one sport
UConn
Temple
Cincy
Old Dominion
Liberty
Vanderbilt
Florida
Denver
Quinnipiac
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - billybobby777 - 08-23-2017 08:30 PM
There's a lot more conference affiliation than one might think:
Mizzou is in the MAC for Wrestling
San Diego St is in the AAC for field hockey and PAC for Soccer
Air Force, Wyoming are in the Big 12 for wrestling
UNLV plays soccer in the WAC
Kentucky, South Carolina and New Mexico are in CUSA Soccer
Boise is in the PAC 12 for wrestling.--if they don't drop wrestling, which I heard they might.
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - chargeradio - 08-23-2017 09:11 PM
Providence was in America East for volleyball, so if Liberty found themselves homeless, that may be an option.
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - Liberty Fan - 08-24-2017 04:52 PM
AD says LU plans to keep sports other than football & field hockey in the Big South.
https://soundcloud.com/user-479876811/ian-mccaw-on-fball-scheduling
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - jdgaucho - 08-24-2017 10:52 PM
(08-23-2017 08:30 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: There's a lot more conference affiliation than one might think:
Mizzou is in the MAC for Wrestling
San Diego St is in the AAC for field hockey and PAC for Soccer
Air Force, Wyoming are in the Big 12 for wrestling
UNLV plays soccer in the WAC
Kentucky, South Carolina and New Mexico are in CUSA Soccer
Boise is in the PAC 12 for wrestling.--if they don't drop wrestling, which I heard they might.
Boise is going to drop wrestling and replace it with baseball.
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - BearcatJerry - 08-25-2017 05:23 AM
(08-23-2017 08:30 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: There's a lot more conference affiliation than one might think:
Mizzou is in the MAC for Wrestling
San Diego St is in the AAC for field hockey and PAC for Soccer
Air Force, Wyoming are in the Big 12 for wrestling
UNLV plays soccer in the WAC
Kentucky, South Carolina and New Mexico are in CUSA Soccer
Boise is in the PAC 12 for wrestling.--if they don't drop wrestling, which I heard they might.
I know WVU plays in the MAC for men's soccer since the Big XII doesn't sponsor it...
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - Old Blue - 08-25-2017 08:32 AM
Why wouldn't Liberty go independent in MBB? Is that even possible? With their kind of money they could hire a real good coach and seriously upgrade their schedule. Who knows, they could possibly be in the running for NCAA at large bids on a yearly basis. And, as a bonus, they would get to keep all tournament payout money for themselves.
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - chargeradio - 08-25-2017 06:05 PM
. . . If they make the tournament. There are realistically about 250 schools competing for the 6-8 at-large bids not given to the P5 in a typical year. They would be better off taking the steady $100K to $150K they get every year as a member of the Big South. That number would increase in the event someone wins a tournament game, or someone does snag an at-large berth.
Sure one NCAA appearance every 9 to 10 years might break even mathematically, but that's a big gamble when a school realistically has to be one of the best 25 teams in the country - some teams with an RPI of 28 or 29 have had their bubble burst.
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - Liberty Fan - 08-25-2017 06:51 PM
Big South is a pretty good baseball conference.
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - billybobby777 - 08-25-2017 07:28 PM
(08-25-2017 08:32 AM)Old Blue Wrote: Why wouldn't Liberty go independent in MBB? Is that even possible? With their kind of money they could hire a real good coach and seriously upgrade their schedule. Who knows, they could possibly be in the running for NCAA at large bids on a yearly basis. And, as a bonus, they would get to keep all tournament payout money for themselves.
No because there are only around 32 at large picks available out of around 356 schools. You need a conference so your school has a hypothetical shot to go to the NCAA Tournament through the conference tournament auto bid. That's why there is 0 out of 356 Independent basketball programs.
RE: So is Liberty joining the Big East for a few sports? - DogPoundNorth - 08-25-2017 09:20 PM
Why would the Big East ever want Liberty for anything? I wouldn't touch that university with a 1,000 foot pole.