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Bleacher Report: Is the death of the B12 inevitable - BIgCatonProwl - 02-17-2014 03:14 PM
Article on B12 and it's possible demise...unless.
url:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1962486-is-the-death-of-the-big-12-inevitable
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - Native Georgian - 02-17-2014 03:18 PM
As long as Texas (and OU, to a lesser extent) are happy, the Big <12 will be fine. The other 8 members have nowhere to go unless they are tagging along with those one (or both) of the 2 big dogs.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - bullet - 02-17-2014 03:30 PM
The death of the Big 10 is inevitable. The only question is how long it takes. 10 years, 150 years? Same for the SEC.
This is a really stupid article, not worth the time to read. There is no reason to assume 10 members is too small since 10 was about the maximum size for a conference in the 60s-80s. And there is no reason to assume FBS wants an even number of power conferences. It had an even 6 just about a year ago.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - FreshPrinceOfDarkness - 02-17-2014 03:42 PM
If the Big 12's demise is inevitable, I will at least enjoy the round-robin ride to its grave. RR scheduling much more exciting and grueling than unbalanced conference divisional play.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - JunkYardCard - 02-17-2014 03:47 PM
An expansion of the 4-team playoff to an 8-team playoff makes the need to reduce the number of power conferences down to four almost moot. There is no inherent need for 16x4.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - Proud Bammer - 02-17-2014 03:51 PM
Bleacher Report is the AAC of sports journalism.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - JRsec - 02-17-2014 03:52 PM
(02-17-2014 03:30 PM)bullet Wrote: The death of the Big 10 is inevitable. The only question is how long it takes. 10 years, 150 years? Same for the SEC.
This is a really stupid article, not worth the time to read. There is no reason to assume 10 members is too small since 10 was about the maximum size for a conference in the 60s-80s. And there is no reason to assume FBS wants an even number of power conferences. It had an even 6 just about a year ago.
The first time I read the Bleacher Report I thought it was a parody of Sports Journalism and almost appreciated it as such. When I found out they were serious I got an even bigger laugh. At least this one was fairly well written, even if its assumptions, as usual, were way off base. I have read, or tried to read, some of their reports where the grammar and sentence structure was so poor I wondered if their beat writer was a 4th grade kid.
There is only one scenario where the Big 12 goes away and that is (get ready a big if is coming here) "if" at least eight of their teams simultaneously get an offer too good to refuse.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - SeaBlue - 02-17-2014 03:55 PM
Osborne's comments have some missing context (as does the entire article for that matter).
"We like the Big 12. We’re not looking to leave. We’re not mad at anybody. We’re not upset about anything..."
The Cornhuskers’ officially fled to the Big Ten just 10 days later.
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For the rest of the story:
The "partnership" disintegrated June 11 when the school rather flamboyantly and pointedly announced its divorce from Texas and the Big 12. Somewhere in there was language about joining the Big Ten but that was almost subtext to what was happening.
Basically, given an ultimatum to declare its loyalty to the Big 12 (led by Texas), Nebraska shoved its middle finger in the air and instead accepted an invite from the Big Ten 6½ weeks ago. The Huskers begin play next season.
It seems as though the author was not alive to remember these events, way back 3 1/2 years ago.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - Hoosier Hysteria - 02-17-2014 04:13 PM
The only way the Big 12 stays intact is they can pick off an FSU, Clemson or Miami from ACC. I really don't see that happening. What I do see happening is Kansas leaves for BIG. If this occurs then MIZZU comes into play because they want to renew their rivalry with Kansas. There is an outside chance the BIG brings Kansas, Texas and Oklahoma in as a package deal. Also I could see either the PAC or SEC picking up same candidates plus Oklahoma State. A long shot, the ACC gives Texas a ND type deal or Texas goes Independent.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - Hokie Mark - 02-17-2014 04:14 PM
(02-17-2014 03:51 PM)Proud Bammer Wrote: Bleacher Report is the AAC of sports journalism.
Need I remind you that the AAC champ defeated the Big XII champ in the Fiesta Bowl this year?
Just sayin'
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - BIgCatonProwl - 02-17-2014 04:17 PM
(02-17-2014 04:13 PM)Hoosier Hysteria Wrote: The only way the Big 12 stays intact is they can pick off an FSU, Clemson or Miami from ACC. I really don't see that happening. What I do see happening is Kansas leaves for BIG. If this occurs then MIZZU comes into play because they want to renew their rivalry with Kansas. There is an outside chance the BIG brings Kansas, Texas and Oklahoma in as a package deal. Also I could see either the PAC or SEC picking up same candidates plus Oklahoma State. A long shot, the ACC gives Texas a ND type deal or Texas goes Independent.
Also he mentioned the 2 Arizona Schools, but I don't see them leaving the P12 for B12. I believe Arkansas would be a better target. Lot of people believe they cannot be pried away from the mighty SEC, they may get tired of being an also ran and figure they have a better chance to get into a playoff by playing in a weaker B12 and winning it, and there are some historical ties from the old SWC days..
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - Rube Dali - 02-17-2014 04:26 PM
Bleacher Report is the NATIONAL ENQUIRER of sports journalism.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - The Real LHS81 - 02-17-2014 05:56 PM
(02-17-2014 03:51 PM)Proud Bammer Wrote: Bleacher Report is the AAC of sports journalism.
Or the SEC Basketball of sports journalism. . . Kentucky and Florida's back must be getting tired from carrying the rest of the conference
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - bullet - 02-17-2014 06:03 PM
(02-17-2014 05:56 PM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:(02-17-2014 03:51 PM)Proud Bammer Wrote: Bleacher Report is the AAC of sports journalism.
Or the SEC Basketball of sports journalism. . . Kentucky and Florida's back must be getting tired from carrying the rest of the conference
Odd that the decline of SEC basketball to mid-major level coincides with their unprecedented football success. Its hard to imagine UK winning 21 games and not going to the NCAA like last year. Is their a cause and effect relationship? Basketball players don't want to go to "football" schools? Or maybe the good athletes are more likely than usual to choose football.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - ChrisLords - 02-17-2014 06:09 PM
(02-17-2014 06:03 PM)bullet Wrote:(02-17-2014 05:56 PM)The Real LHS81 Wrote:(02-17-2014 03:51 PM)Proud Bammer Wrote: Bleacher Report is the AAC of sports journalism.
Or the SEC Basketball of sports journalism. . . Kentucky and Florida's back must be getting tired from carrying the rest of the conference
Odd that the decline of SEC basketball to mid-major level coincides with their unprecedented football success. Its hard to imagine UK winning 21 games and not going to the NCAA like last year. Is their a cause and effect relationship? Basketball players don't want to go to "football" schools? Or maybe the good athletes are more likely than usual to choose football.
Or maybe when institutional priorities are so focused on one sport that interest in the other major sport suffers. There's not too many schools that are regularly good in both football and men's basketball.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - Tallgrass - 02-17-2014 06:13 PM
This article lost any validity when it stated the B12 could attract Arizona and Arizona State. For better or for worse, the B12 is stuck at 10 teams and this is the horse the B12 will have to ride.
The B12, even at 10 teams, will receive a bigger payout from Sugar Bowl than the 14 team ACC does from Orange Bowl. So, the ten team B12 is not to be under estimated.
My guess is that there is going to be so much money involved, that the 4 team national playoff will be expanded to 8 teams...for the more potential monies. So I don't think the rationale of 4 national BCS conferences because of a 4 team national playoff will remain valid in the future.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - Frog in the Kitchen Sink - 02-17-2014 06:15 PM
If the Big 12 revenue streams fall behind it will die. If it maintains equal or better revenue streams, as it does currently, it will be fine. It really just comes down to that. Number of teams really doesn't matter in the equation.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - 10thMountain - 02-17-2014 06:27 PM
Quote: Who is Miami's rival in the ACC?
Um....Florida State. It's kind of a big deal.
Bleacher report is definitely the Big 10 baseball of sports reporting.
The L10 is stuck the way it is and will only dissolve when and if UT decides they've had enough of it. Yeah it sucks for the rest that an entire conference is totally dependent on one team to survive but it is what it is.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - HeartOfDixie - 02-17-2014 06:35 PM
Texas Texad Texas Texas
And their band of merry idiots.
RE: Chew on this. Is the death of the B12 inevitable - westwolf - 02-17-2014 06:50 PM
Yep