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"Give 'em a good punch!" - wvucrazed - 05-01-2012 02:25 PM
Here is the Senior Pastor of Berean Baptist Church in Fayetteville, NC, Sean Harris, preaching Christian love in advance of NC's vote on the anti-gay marriage amendment. Charming, eh? The audio is at the link below.
TRANSCRIPT:
"So your little son starts to act a little girlish when he is four years old and instead of squashing that like a cockroach and saying, “Man up, son, get that dress off you and get outside and dig a ditch, because that is what boys do,” you get out the camera and you start taking pictures of Johnny acting like a female and then you upload it to YouTube and everybody laughs about it and the next thing you know, this dude, this kid is acting out childhood fantasies that should have been squashed.
Can I make it any clearer? Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok? You are not going to act like that. You were made by God to be a male and you are going to be a male. And when your daughter starts acting to Butch you reign her in. And you say, “Oh, no, sweetheart. You can play sports. Play them to the glory of God. But sometimes you are going to act like a girl and walk like a girl and talk like a girl and smell like a girl and that means you are going to be beautiful. You are going to be attractive. You are going to dress yourself up.”
You say, “Can I take charge like that as a parent?”
Yeah, you can. You are authorized. I just gave you a special dispensation this morning to do that."
http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2012/05/video-amendment1-pastor-gives-parents-special-dispensation-to-use-violence-against-lgbt-kids-4marriagenc.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GoodAsYou+%28Good+As+You%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
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So which Christians out there agree with "punching" a 4-year old who acts gay?
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - Motown Bronco - 05-01-2012 02:29 PM
(05-01-2012 02:25 PM)wvucrazed Wrote: So which Christians out there agree with "punching" a 4-year old who acts gay?
Certainly not me. This so-called pastor is despicable.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - Bull_In_Exile - 05-01-2012 02:29 PM
(05-01-2012 02:29 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:(05-01-2012 02:25 PM)wvucrazed Wrote: So which Christians out there agree with "punching" a 4-year old who acts gay?
Certainly not me. This so-called pastor is despicable.
None that I know would punch their kid for having a limp wrist..
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - UCF08 - 05-01-2012 02:40 PM
I don't know of a single good parent who would believe this, nor anyone I would consider a good person or even christian.
I want to laugh that people like him still exist, because it is *SO* out of touch with reality, but these people actually do exist and treat their loved ones like this.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - DrTorch - 05-01-2012 02:42 PM
(05-01-2012 02:40 PM)UCF08 Wrote: I want to laugh that people like him still exist, because it is *SO* out of touch with reality, but these people actually do exist and treat their loved ones like this.
Reality?
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - wvucrazed - 05-01-2012 02:43 PM
(05-01-2012 02:40 PM)UCF08 Wrote: these people actually do exist and treat their loved ones like this.
They sure do.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - UCF08 - 05-01-2012 02:45 PM
Yes, reality. You think being gay is a choice?
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - DrTorch - 05-01-2012 02:49 PM
(05-01-2012 02:45 PM)UCF08 Wrote: Yes, reality. You think being gay is a choice?
You've demonstrated a consistent, gross lack of understanding reality. So I find it comical that you presume to criticize others.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - DrTorch - 05-01-2012 02:50 PM
(05-01-2012 02:43 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:(05-01-2012 02:40 PM)UCF08 Wrote: these people actually do exist and treat their loved ones like this.
They sure do.
F'n crybaby.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - Bull_In_Exile - 05-01-2012 02:51 PM
(05-01-2012 02:40 PM)UCF08 Wrote: I don't know of a single good parent who would believe this, nor anyone I would consider a good person or even christian.
I want to laugh that people like him still exist, because it is *SO* out of touch with reality, but these people actually do exist and treat their loved ones like this.
And insane vegans who starve their babies to death exist... And there are deaf lesbians who made sure their baby would be deaf (e.g. handicapped their kid so they could better connect).
There are sick parents running under a diverse set of cover.
I live in Christan circles, far more than many of the folks here and among the hundreds of people who I know really well not *one* would smack their son for acting effeminate.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - UCF08 - 05-01-2012 02:52 PM
(05-01-2012 02:49 PM)DrTorch Wrote:(05-01-2012 02:45 PM)UCF08 Wrote: Yes, reality. You think being gay is a choice?
You've demonstrated a consistent, gross lack of understanding reality. So I find it comical that you presume to criticize others.
And you've consistently demonstrated an ability to do nothing besides make a small quip, followed by a laughing face, without adding any meaningful contribution to the subject of the post. I find it comical you think you have any right to criticize others.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - UCF08 - 05-01-2012 02:53 PM
(05-01-2012 02:51 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:(05-01-2012 02:40 PM)UCF08 Wrote: I don't know of a single good parent who would believe this, nor anyone I would consider a good person or even christian.
I want to laugh that people like him still exist, because it is *SO* out of touch with reality, but these people actually do exist and treat their loved ones like this.
And insane vegans who starve their babies to death exist... And there are deaf lesbians who made sure their baby would be deaf (e.g. handicapped their kid so they could better connect).
There are sick parents running under a diverse set of cover.
I live in Christan circles, far more than many of the folks here and among the hundreds of people who I know really well not *one* would smack their son for acting effeminate.
...so you agree with me then?
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - Paul M - 05-01-2012 02:55 PM
(05-01-2012 02:45 PM)UCF08 Wrote: Yes, reality. You think being gay is a choice?
Prison.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - Bull_In_Exile - 05-01-2012 02:56 PM
(05-01-2012 02:53 PM)UCF08 Wrote:(05-01-2012 02:51 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:(05-01-2012 02:40 PM)UCF08 Wrote: I don't know of a single good parent who would believe this, nor anyone I would consider a good person or even christian.
I want to laugh that people like him still exist, because it is *SO* out of touch with reality, but these people actually do exist and treat their loved ones like this.
And insane vegans who starve their babies to death exist... And there are deaf lesbians who made sure their baby would be deaf (e.g. handicapped their kid so they could better connect).
There are sick parents running under a diverse set of cover.
I live in Christan circles, far more than many of the folks here and among the hundreds of people who I know really well not *one* would smack their son for acting effeminate.
...so you agree with me then?
That people, all people are inherently evil at their core and each one is capable of horrendous things? yes... I agree, its a corner stone of my theology..
People like him will *always* exist because his vile nature is not theologically borne. The post modern atheist is as capable of killing as anyone else.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - Bull_In_Exile - 05-01-2012 02:56 PM
(05-01-2012 02:55 PM)Paul M Wrote:(05-01-2012 02:45 PM)UCF08 Wrote: Yes, reality. You think being gay is a choice?
Prison.
Sparta
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - wvucrazed - 05-01-2012 03:00 PM
(05-01-2012 02:51 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: I live in Christan circles, far more than many of the folks here and among the hundreds of people who I know really well not *one* would smack their son for acting effeminate.
You sure about that? I'm not. We don't know what happens with children in a family home. We know that child abuse is an ongoing problem.
I can tell you that I know many who have been completely rejected by their family for being gay. How does turning your back on your child rank alongside punching them?
There are people of every creed and religion (or no religion) who do despicable things, sure. I'm not debating that.
But this is the head pastor of a fairly prominent church, to judge from their website. He is a leader in the community. And you think he's an isolated case? I guarantee you he's getting calls from followers and other pastors congratulating him on having the guts to say what they are all thinking.
This is the face of Christianity for many.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - DrTorch - 05-01-2012 03:00 PM
(05-01-2012 02:52 PM)UCF08 Wrote:(05-01-2012 02:49 PM)DrTorch Wrote:(05-01-2012 02:45 PM)UCF08 Wrote: Yes, reality. You think being gay is a choice?
You've demonstrated a consistent, gross lack of understanding reality. So I find it comical that you presume to criticize others.
And you've consistently demonstrated an ability to do nothing besides make a small quip,
20K posts? Really? I think you're a f'n liar.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - DrTorch - 05-01-2012 03:01 PM
(05-01-2012 03:00 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:(05-01-2012 02:51 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: I live in Christan circles, far more than many of the folks here and among the hundreds of people who I know really well not *one* would smack their son for acting effeminate.
You sure about that? I'm not.
WTF? You know nothing about this and you start making accusations? What a total prick.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - I'mMoreAwesomeThanYou - 05-01-2012 07:53 PM
I've punched lots of dudes...never checked their wrist before hand. I have no problem with attacks on gays...much like most of the Libs here don't have a problem with attacks on Christians.
RE: "Give 'em a good punch!" - Bull_In_Exile - 05-01-2012 10:08 PM
(05-01-2012 03:01 PM)DrTorch Wrote:(05-01-2012 03:00 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:(05-01-2012 02:51 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: I live in Christan circles, far more than many of the folks here and among the hundreds of people who I know really well not *one* would smack their son for acting effeminate.
You sure about that? I'm not.
WTF? You know nothing about this and you start making accusations? What a total prick.
Of course he does, he is a bigot and thats what they do. Any one example that fits their narrative is held up as the standard and anything that does not is dismissed as an outlier.
Who cares if I live in a christian community... Who ares that my family reads christian authors, listens to other pastors and follow the Christian Community... he knows better.
I have not heard his whole sermon, I sincerely hope he was not endorsing physical violence of that magnitude as a means of discipline. But I cna assure you in the half dozen or so churches I have attended in my life not one would have ever been ok with it..
Quote:And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. -- Ephesians 6:4