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Conference Realignment - Usajags - 12-06-2011 03:19 PM
It was a topic on the other site, it will be a topic here.
It's official, the conferences have gone completely insane, SDSU, as is San Diego State is now a member of the Big East, with the likes of UConn....Tell me how that makes any sense. Boise, SMU, Houston and UCF are also in. Boise basically comes out and says they are in because of the current BCS system. How do they plan on winning games when they are traveling 5000 miles a weekend???
RE: Conference Realignment - AtlantaJag - 12-06-2011 04:02 PM
It's on now. I think CUSA will stay at nine, but I'm not sure what the MWC does. Their alliance may allow the MWC to stay at 7 and still have voting rights, etc. If not they take Utah State probably and the WAC is teetering on the edge of annihilation.
RE: Conference Realignment - Usajags - 12-06-2011 04:26 PM
Eventually the WAC will be nothing but La Tech and a bunch of startups. They may be able to win a conference championship then.
RE: Conference Realignment - usmgh - 12-06-2011 04:38 PM
(12-06-2011 04:02 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote: It's on now. I think CUSA will stay at nine, but I'm not sure what the MWC does. Their alliance may allow the MWC to stay at 7 and still have voting rights, etc. If not they take Utah State probably and the WAC is teetering on the edge of annihilation.Can we go ahead and take UTSA in the SBC?
RE: Conference Realignment - mts305 - 12-06-2011 05:59 PM
(12-06-2011 04:02 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote: It's on now. I think CUSA will stay at nine, but I'm not sure what the MWC does. Their alliance may allow the MWC to stay at 7 and still have voting rights, etc. If not they take Utah State probably and the WAC is teetering on the edge of annihilation.
I think the MWC takes Utah State and doesn't think twice about it.
Maybe WW knew what he was talking about with regard to philosophy SB expansion. IMO the WAC is going to die and we will be able to take what we want with regard to WAC left overs. They will want to stay FBS, and defintely need a home.
Do you think there will be any movement between the MWC and C-USA? For example UTEP to the MWC. That would give La Tech a chance at there much coveted C-USA invite.
RE: Conference Realignment - BLEEDITRED - 12-07-2011 12:14 AM
What does this do for us and a possible move? Why AJ do you think they'd stay at nine when there are so many viable replacements? I'd still be in favor of a move to CUSA. Much more recognizable names, which are all important for more casual followers, plus some close rivalries that could develop. Better attendances, increased season tickets, more tv opportunities, etc. In my dream, we would move along with WKU and MTSU.
RE: Conference Realignment - Tiguar - 12-07-2011 01:23 AM
(12-07-2011 12:14 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote: What does this do for us and a possible move? Why AJ do you think they'd stay at nine when there are so many viable replacements? I'd still be in favor of a move to CUSA. Much more recognizable names, which are all important for more casual followers, plus some close rivalries that could develop. Better attendances, increased season tickets, more tv opportunities, etc. In my dream, we would move along with WKU and MTSU.
Why do you exclude Troy? Inquiring minds and all that...
RE: Conference Realignment - mts305 - 12-07-2011 08:18 AM
(12-07-2011 12:14 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote: What does this do for us and a possible move? Why AJ do you think they'd stay at nine when there are so many viable replacements? I'd still be in favor of a move to CUSA. Much more recognizable names, which are all important for more casual followers, plus some close rivalries that could develop. Better attendances, increased season tickets, more tv opportunities, etc. In my dream, we would move along with WKU and MTSU.
IMO there is not much reason to have any more than 9 teams in each conference with the C-USA/MWC alliance. Nine teams in each conference is perfect for a round robin 8 game conference schedule. Each conference does that for a champ and then they play the title game. The scheduling is easy and I assume the only area the two conferences share revenue is for that game. I would think that even if that alliance gets a BCS bid that the team that won the game would only share the BCS with their native conference.
However, they said that the alliance could contain as many as 24 teams, so each individual conference could get to 12. I guess we will know more in Jan.
RE: Conference Realignment - JoeJag - 12-07-2011 09:29 AM
I would like to see Troy and USA go to C-USA. Having those two in the same league with UAB, USM and Tulane would create some great rivalries and attendance figures.
RE: Conference Realignment - AtlantaJag - 12-07-2011 09:38 AM
(12-07-2011 08:18 AM)mts305 Wrote:(12-07-2011 12:14 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote: What does this do for us and a possible move? Why AJ do you think they'd stay at nine when there are so many viable replacements? I'd still be in favor of a move to CUSA. Much more recognizable names, which are all important for more casual followers, plus some close rivalries that could develop. Better attendances, increased season tickets, more tv opportunities, etc. In my dream, we would move along with WKU and MTSU.
IMO there is not much reason to have any more than 9 teams in each conference with the C-USA/MWC alliance. Nine teams in each conference is perfect for a round robin 8 game conference schedule. Each conference does that for a champ and then they play the title game. The scheduling is easy and I assume the only area the two conferences share revenue is for that game. I would think that even if that allaince gets a BCS bid that the team that won the game would only share the BCS with their native conference.
However, they said that the allaince could contain as many as 24 teams, so each individual conference could get to 12. I guess we will know more in Jan.
Well said. This is exactly why I think CUSA will stay at nine. Why should they look for someone to share money with when having 12 and a title game isn't necessary anymore?
RE: Conference Realignment - AtlantaJag - 12-07-2011 09:43 AM
(12-07-2011 01:23 AM)Tiguar Wrote:(12-07-2011 12:14 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote: What does this do for us and a possible move? Why AJ do you think they'd stay at nine when there are so many viable replacements? I'd still be in favor of a move to CUSA. Much more recognizable names, which are all important for more casual followers, plus some close rivalries that could develop. Better attendances, increased season tickets, more tv opportunities, etc. In my dream, we would move along with WKU and MTSU.
Why do you exclude Troy? Inquiring minds and all that...
Troy is in a tiny market and would be dead weight in any TV negotiations. They would have start having Boise State-like success to be a serious move up candidate.
RE: Conference Realignment - BLEEDITRED - 12-07-2011 02:16 PM
(12-07-2011 09:43 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:(12-07-2011 01:23 AM)Tiguar Wrote:(12-07-2011 12:14 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote: What does this do for us and a possible move? Why AJ do you think they'd stay at nine when there are so many viable replacements? I'd still be in favor of a move to CUSA. Much more recognizable names, which are all important for more casual followers, plus some close rivalries that could develop. Better attendances, increased season tickets, more tv opportunities, etc. In my dream, we would move along with WKU and MTSU.
Why do you exclude Troy? Inquiring minds and all that...
Troy is in a tiny market and would be dead weight in any TV negotiations. They would have start having Boise State-like success to be a serious move up
candidate.
This. Plus, I don't think they'd want 3 teams from Alabama.
RE: Conference Realignment - GulfCoastStorm - 12-07-2011 03:44 PM
Troy doesn't even register on the TV market scale, as someone else said. They don't bring much else to the table. Larry Blakeney may have lost his touch up there after all these years and they aren't going to usher him out. He's made that program.
Western Kentucky, if it gets successful, as a better chance of leaving our conference.
Troy is down and things don't look bright in the near term, football-wise.
I think the CUSA and MWC association is what could be a boon for smaller schools. Each is still allowed to host a championship game and then the two conferences send their champions to the association championship game, OR just the association championship, sans the conference championship games.
SHHHHH! Don't tell anyone but that sounds like a mini-playoff. I like it!
RE: Conference Realignment - Thunderjag - 12-07-2011 08:29 PM
On the note of conference realignment and Conference USA I have to post what I just saw from Ben from Georgia State.
Link
RE: Conference Realignment - AtlantaJag - 12-07-2011 09:00 PM
Did Ben just cut and paste the same post that gets plastered all over the internet by the Ga State pumpers?
RE: Conference Realignment - usmgh - 12-07-2011 11:45 PM
(12-07-2011 09:00 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote: Did Ben just cut and paste the same post that gets plastered all over the internet by the Ga State pumpers?I'm pretty sure that's always Ben making that post, under one of his 247 different Ga State screen names.
RE: Conference Realignment - mts305 - 12-08-2011 12:35 PM
(12-07-2011 09:38 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:(12-07-2011 08:18 AM)mts305 Wrote:(12-07-2011 12:14 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote: What does this do for us and a possible move? Why AJ do you think they'd stay at nine when there are so many viable replacements? I'd still be in favor of a move to CUSA. Much more recognizable names, which are all important for more casual followers, plus some close rivalries that could develop. Better attendances, increased season tickets, more tv opportunities, etc. In my dream, we would move along with WKU and MTSU.
IMO there is not much reason to have any more than 9 teams in each conference with the C-USA/MWC alliance. Nine teams in each conference is perfect for a round robin 8 game conference schedule. Each conference does that for a champ and then they play the title game. The scheduling is easy and I assume the only area the two conferences share revenue is for that game. I would think that even if that allaince gets a BCS bid that the team that won the game would only share the BCS with their native conference.
However, they said that the allaince could contain as many as 24 teams, so each individual conference could get to 12. I guess we will know more in Jan.
Well said. This is exactly why I think CUSA will stay at nine. Why should they look for someone to share money with when having 12 and a title game isn't necessary anymore?
Disregard what I said. It looks like C-USA and MWC are now looking to merge in all sports.
Link
Edit: This will certainly help SB stability, but for us and other SB teams with C-USA aspirations it doesn't look too good.
RE: Conference Realignment - usmgh - 12-08-2011 12:38 PM
That would seem to have disater written all over it.
RE: Conference Realignment - SkullyMaroo - 12-08-2011 02:32 PM
(12-08-2011 12:38 PM)usmgh Wrote: That would seem to have disater written all over it.
I think this will fail as well. Too much going on.
What happens the first time a C-USA team goes undefeated in its division only to lose the championship game to a MWC school? Or vice versa, similar to how USM kept Houston out of the BCS this year. I don't think they will be awarded an autobid, so this could hurt them, cost them money, and end up failing.
RE: Conference Realignment - usmgh - 12-08-2011 03:38 PM
It just doesn't make sense to have Colorado St. travelling to East Carolina for Volleyball, Tulane travelling to Wyoming for Women's Soccer, New Mexico travelling to Marshall for Tennis, etc.
It barely makes sense for football, and it seems absurd for all sports.
And there's no way they'll get an autobid. Merging the leftovers of two non-AQ conferences isn't going to warrent a BCS bid.