(11-02-2026 09:29 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  The democrats show their real face and no one pays attention. It will forever puzzle me why Jews vote democrat. SMH.

(11-02-2026 10:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Thank God that Michigan avoided another Fetterman. Stevens just destroyed any possible future for her politically. And her defection will do nothing to move the needle here. It appears to be nothing but sour grapes and placating her closeted GOP fiancé.

(11-02-2026 09:29 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  The democrats show their real face and no one pays attention. It will forever puzzle me why Jews vote democrat. SMH.

(11-02-2026 11:09 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(11-02-2026 10:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Thank God that Michigan avoided another Fetterman. Stevens just destroyed any possible future for her politically. And her defection will do nothing to move the needle here. It appears to be nothing but sour grapes and placating her closeted GOP fiancé.

Says the so-called "independent" who loves to carry water for the left. We know you're going to vote for El-Sayed, if you haven't done so already. Don't come crying to us when you get forced to accept Islam just to stay alive. I'd rather they kill me than force me to accept Allah. And trust me, they want all of us who don't believe in Allah dead. But go ahead and tell us how we don't use critical thinking skills. Sir, you wouldn't know actual critical thinking if if punched you the face.

So brainwashed.

(11-02-2026 11:09 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(11-02-2026 10:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Thank God that Michigan avoided another Fetterman. Stevens just destroyed any possible future for her politically. And her defection will do nothing to move the needle here. It appears to be nothing but sour grapes and placating her closeted GOP fiancé.

Says the so-called "independent" who loves to carry water for the left. We know you're going to vote for El-Sayed, if you haven't done so already. Don't come crying to us when you get forced to accept Islam just to stay alive. I'd rather they kill me than force me to accept Allah. And trust me, they want all of us who don't believe in Allah dead. But go ahead and tell us how we don't use critical thinking skills. Sir, you wouldn't know actual critical thinking if if punched you the face.

So brainwashed.

(11-02-2026 11:09 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(11-02-2026 10:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Thank God that Michigan avoided another Fetterman. Stevens just destroyed any possible future for her politically. And her defection will do nothing to move the needle here. It appears to be nothing but sour grapes and placating her closeted GOP fiancé.

Says the so-called "independent" who loves to carry water for the left.

(11-02-2026 11:09 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  We know you're going to vote for El-Sayed, if you haven't done so already. Don't come crying to us when you get forced to accept Islam just to stay alive. I'd rather they kill me than force me to accept Allah. And trust me, they want all of us who don't believe in Allah dead. But go ahead and tell us how we don't use critical thinking skills. Sir, you wouldn't know actual critical thinking if if punched you the face.

So brainwashed.

(11-02-2026 02:54 PM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  The only one here who is brainwashed and delusional is you, Tom.

(11-02-2026 02:59 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(11-02-2026 02:54 PM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  The only one here who is brainwashed and delusional is you, Tom.

Exactly. I see what’s going on and I’m trying to get people to wake up. But they have to be willing to wake up. Sadly, a lot of them are fine with living with their heads buried in the sand.

(11-02-2026 10:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Thank God that Michigan avoided another Fetterman.

Quote:Stevens just destroyed any possible future for her politically.

Quote:her defection will do nothing to move the needle here. It appears to be nothing but sour grapes and placating her closeted GOP fiancé.

(11-02-2026 04:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(11-02-2026 10:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Thank God that Michigan avoided another Fetterman.

Maybe, maybe not. No way to prove it or disprove it, but I think if Stevens had won this election, she would’ve become “another Slotkin” — someone who doesn’t personally go around in public chanting the most insane/disturbing passages in the Progressive catechism, but who still votes the party line at least 99.9% of the time. That is absolutely the path she followed in the 9-10 years between her first candidacy for Congress and her loss to El-Sayed. And, regardless of how it all turns out tomorrow, I thank God that Michigan is avoiding that.

Quote:Stevens just destroyed any possible future for her politically.

Agreed. But that argues in favor of the idea that she is speaking from sincere belief, and not from an expectation of political reward.

Quote:her defection will do nothing to move the needle here. It appears to be nothing but sour grapes and placating her closeted GOP fiancé.

Again: maybe, maybe not. What result could prove or disprove it?

But I have to say, based on the intense reactions from Democrats all over the country, I don’t think they agree with you. For some of them, “intense” is actually an understatement.

As for the fiancé, I’d be curious if there is any public evidence of him supporting GOP for anything, anywhere, ever, prior Stevens’ loss in the primary. Could be, but I doubt it.

(11-02-2026 04:46 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-02-2026 04:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(11-02-2026 10:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Thank God that Michigan avoided another Fetterman.

Maybe, maybe not. No way to prove it or disprove it, but I think if Stevens had won this election, she would’ve become “another Slotkin” — someone who doesn’t personally go around in public chanting the most insane/disturbing passages in the Progressive catechism, but who still votes the party line at least 99.9% of the time. That is absolutely the path she followed in the 9-10 years between her first candidacy for Congress and her loss to El-Sayed. And, regardless of how it all turns out tomorrow, I thank God that Michigan is avoiding that.

Quote:Stevens just destroyed any possible future for her politically.

Agreed. But that argues in favor of the idea that she is speaking from sincere belief, and not from an expectation of political reward.

Quote:her defection will do nothing to move the needle here. It appears to be nothing but sour grapes and placating her closeted GOP fiancé.

Again: maybe, maybe not. What result could prove or disprove it?

But I have to say, based on the intense reactions from Democrats all over the country, I don’t think they agree with you. For some of them, “intense” is actually an understatement.

As for the fiancé, I’d be curious if there is any public evidence of him supporting GOP for anything, anywhere, ever, prior Stevens’ loss in the primary. Could be, but I doubt it.

I heard that the fiancé was either working to get Susan Collins reelected or donating money to her or helping raise money for her. I haven't really looked into it further. So perhaps I heard wrong.

As far as reactions from Democrats, I'm referring to those in the know here in Michigan. Several of which are deeply involved in MI politics and have been for many many years. They are usually right on the money with their opinions.

It seems like the biggest sticking point with her and her fiancé is Israel. That's not a hill any Michigan democrat should die on. That's not a top focus here.

(11-02-2026 04:51 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  that ad blaming high prices on Israel was completely inaccurate, in my opinion. And El-Sayed’s unwillingness to condemn it was most likely the straw that broke the camel’s back for Stevens

(11-02-2026 04:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Maybe, maybe not. No way to prove it or disprove it, but I think if Stevens had won this election, she would’ve become “another Slotkin” — someone who doesn’t personally go around in public chanting the most insane/disturbing passages in the Progressive catechism, but who still votes the party line at least 99.9% of the time. That is absolutely the path she followed in the 9-10 years between her first candidacy for Congress and her loss to El-Sayed. And, regardless of how it all turns out tomorrow, I thank God that Michigan is avoiding that.