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RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - Attackcoog - 06-20-2018 05:31 PM
(06-20-2018 03:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(06-20-2018 11:38 AM)green Wrote:
https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1009108387022430212
WIDE OPEN
This is disingenuous. What we want is an end to the racist ICE policy of harrassing Latinos at any point, without any justification, within 100 miles of a coastline or US border.
No. The racism charge is disingenuous. Its used because you cant just come out and admit--we want more hispanic immigrants because we think increasing the number of uneducated poor people will improve the electorial map for democrats. Dems dont give a rats azz about anything other than power and the ability to spend other peoples money. Thats proven by the fact Dems didnt care about this issue when Obama was doing the same thing.
That said---frankly--republicans are only marginally better about spending other peoples money---but I'll take what I can get.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - Owl 69/70/75 - 06-20-2018 06:23 PM
(06-20-2018 05:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:(06-20-2018 03:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:No. The racism charge is disingenuous. Its used because you cant just come out and admit--we want more hispanic immigrants because we think increasing the number of uneducated poor people will improve the electorial map for democrats. Dems dont give a rats azz about anything other than power and the ability to spend other peoples money. Thats proven by the fact Dems didnt care about this issue when Obama was doing the same thing.(06-20-2018 11:38 AM)green Wrote:This is disingenuous. What we want is an end to the racist ICE policy of harrassing Latinos at any point, without any justification, within 100 miles of a coastline or US border.
https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1009108387022430212
WIDE OPEN
That said---frankly--republicans are only marginally better about spending other peoples money---but I'll take what I can get.
Democrats are socialist/communist redistributionists who believe, "keep 'em dumb, keep 'em poor, keep 'em dependent on handouts, and you'll keep 'em voting democrat." And republicans are a bunch of p*****s who lack the guts to push any agenda other that simply spending slightly less than democrats on the same counterproductive wasteful programs.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - olliebaba - 06-20-2018 07:32 PM
(06-20-2018 04:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Some of them are fleeing their lives who could have some valuable information on the drug cartels and the thugs they hired to cause havoc down there. They could get asylum because we could protect them, and they could tell us what the cartel and thugs could be doing here in the US by how they blend in and so forth. Even we get people coming here from the Middle East who provide info on the thugs and terrorists in that region. We do not need to completlely close the doors, but leave it open for some cases for people who have info for security and police matters.
They could get safe haven in Mexico too, so, why don't they? David, just don't post anymore, please. You're ignorance is showing.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - TigerBlue4Ever - 06-20-2018 07:37 PM
(06-20-2018 05:00 PM)green Wrote:(06-20-2018 04:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: Uhhhhh, breaking into the country and entering is illegal too, you don't think they know this while they're scaling the fences?
It's a little loose of an analogy, but do we have a Country or not?
https://twitter.com/cspanhistory/status/1006490796986544128
WITHOUT WALLS
I knew it, you're nothing more than a leftist troll.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - olliebaba - 06-20-2018 07:40 PM
(06-20-2018 07:37 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:(06-20-2018 05:00 PM)green Wrote:(06-20-2018 04:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: Uhhhhh, breaking into the country and entering is illegal too, you don't think they know this while they're scaling the fences?
It's a little loose of an analogy, but do we have a Country or not?
https://twitter.com/cspanhistory/status/1006490796986544128
WITHOUT WALLS
I knew it, you're nothing more than a leftist troll.
He's one of Killery's pals, a Russian.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - green - 06-21-2018 11:27 AM
https://twitter.com/dantobias/status/997541424
I am a libertarian ...
TRUE TO MY WORD
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - Fo Shizzle - 06-21-2018 11:34 AM
(06-20-2018 06:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:(06-20-2018 05:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:(06-20-2018 03:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:No. The racism charge is disingenuous. Its used because you cant just come out and admit--we want more hispanic immigrants because we think increasing the number of uneducated poor people will improve the electorial map for democrats. Dems dont give a rats azz about anything other than power and the ability to spend other peoples money. Thats proven by the fact Dems didnt care about this issue when Obama was doing the same thing.(06-20-2018 11:38 AM)green Wrote:This is disingenuous. What we want is an end to the racist ICE policy of harrassing Latinos at any point, without any justification, within 100 miles of a coastline or US border.
https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1009108387022430212
WIDE OPEN
That said---frankly--republicans are only marginally better about spending other peoples money---but I'll take what I can get.
Democrats are socialist/communist redistributionists who believe, "keep 'em dumb, keep 'em poor, keep 'em dependent on handouts, and you'll keep 'em voting democrat." And republicans are a bunch of p*****s who lack the guts to push any agenda other that simply spending slightly less than democrats on the same counterproductive wasteful programs.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - Gakusei - 06-21-2018 11:38 AM
(06-20-2018 06:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Democrats are socialist/communist redistributionists who believe, "keep 'em dumb, keep 'em poor, keep 'em dependent on handouts, and you'll keep 'em voting democrat."
Statistically, the white people in that group voted for Trump.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - Attackcoog - 06-21-2018 11:42 AM
(06-20-2018 06:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:(06-20-2018 05:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:(06-20-2018 03:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:No. The racism charge is disingenuous. Its used because you cant just come out and admit--we want more hispanic immigrants because we think increasing the number of uneducated poor people will improve the electorial map for democrats. Dems dont give a rats azz about anything other than power and the ability to spend other peoples money. Thats proven by the fact Dems didnt care about this issue when Obama was doing the same thing.(06-20-2018 11:38 AM)green Wrote:This is disingenuous. What we want is an end to the racist ICE policy of harrassing Latinos at any point, without any justification, within 100 miles of a coastline or US border.
https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1009108387022430212
WIDE OPEN
That said---frankly--republicans are only marginally better about spending other peoples money---but I'll take what I can get.
Democrats are socialist/communist redistributionists who believe, "keep 'em dumb, keep 'em poor, keep 'em dependent on handouts, and you'll keep 'em voting democrat." And republicans are a bunch of p*****s who lack the guts to push any agenda other that simply spending slightly less than democrats on the same counterproductive wasteful programs.
Yup. Cant really disagree.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - green - 06-21-2018 11:53 AM
(06-21-2018 11:38 AM)Gakusei Wrote:(06-20-2018 06:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Democrats are socialist/communist redistributionists who believe, "keep 'em dumb, keep 'em poor, keep 'em dependent on handouts, and you'll keep 'em voting democrat."
Statistically, the white people in that group voted for Trump.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/796674282004815872
LOOK DOWN YOUR NOSE AT
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - Gakusei - 06-21-2018 11:58 AM
Of course, they weren't the only voters for Trump. It was stated that uneducated, poor, struggling people vote Democrat. That is true, except when you add white onto that list, then they overwhelmingly voted for Trump.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - geosnooker2000 - 06-21-2018 01:19 PM
(06-20-2018 03:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(06-20-2018 11:38 AM)green Wrote:
https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1009108387022430212
WIDE OPEN
This is disingenuous. What we want is an end to the racist ICE policy of harrassing Latinos at any point, without any justification, within 100 miles of a coastline or US border.
You know what would go a long way toward eliminating that practice? A WALL.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - green - 06-21-2018 01:25 PM
(06-21-2018 01:19 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:(06-20-2018 03:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: This is disingenuous. What we want is an end to the racist ICE policy of harrassing Latinos at any point, without any justification, within 100 miles of a coastline or US border.
You know what would go a long way toward eliminating that practice? A WALL.
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1009816400045707266
ICE, ICE BABY
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - Lush - 06-22-2018 01:28 PM
it's obvious, i suppose, that nations evolve organically and these imaginary lines can't be helped. is it, human nature that does this? where else in the universe are there borders?
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - Jugnaut - 06-22-2018 06:00 PM
(06-20-2018 03:10 PM)green Wrote:(06-20-2018 02:52 PM)Jugnaut Wrote: What's wrong with having no locks on your front door and allowing strangers and homeless people to roam around your home as they please?
unmoved by your poor analogy ...
freedom of movement is not tantamount to breaking and entering ...
you can do better ...
XENOPHOBIC MUCH
Why do you consider it a poor analogy? It's on point but a micro (a home) versus a macro (the nation) level.
Why do you secure your home with locks but consider it wrong for a nation to secure its territory?
Why do you have the right to exclude strangers from your property but consider it wrong for the nation to exclude illegal aliens from its territory?
Xenophobia has nothing to do with it. In another thread, you said you were libertarian. I consider myself one too. I view illegal migrants as violating the principle of non-aggression and violating the property rights of our people/nation. I find it wrong on a moral level. Additionally, illegal migration causes numerous practical problems.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - geosnooker2000 - 06-22-2018 11:16 PM
(06-22-2018 01:28 PM)Lush Wrote: it's obvious, i suppose, that nations evolve organically and these imaginary lines can't be helped. is it, human nature that does this? where else in the universe are there borders?
Where else are there differing forms of government?
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - TigerBlue4Ever - 06-23-2018 07:10 AM
(06-20-2018 03:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(06-20-2018 11:38 AM)green Wrote:
https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1009108387022430212
WIDE OPEN
This is disingenuous. What we want is an end to the racist ICE policy of harrassing Latinos at any point, without any justification, within 100 miles of a coastline or US border.
You're disingenuous.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - TigerBlue4Ever - 06-23-2018 07:13 AM
(06-21-2018 11:27 AM)green Wrote:
https://twitter.com/dantobias/status/997541424
I am a libertarian ...
TRUE TO MY WORD
Nah, you're a leftist. Possibly the only here who doesn't recognize that is you.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - TigerBlue4Ever - 06-23-2018 07:15 AM
(06-21-2018 11:53 AM)green Wrote:(06-21-2018 11:38 AM)Gakusei Wrote:(06-20-2018 06:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Democrats are socialist/communist redistributionists who believe, "keep 'em dumb, keep 'em poor, keep 'em dependent on handouts, and you'll keep 'em voting democrat."
Statistically, the white people in that group voted for Trump.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/796674282004815872
LOOK DOWN YOUR NOSE AT
You say that like it's a bad thing. I'll be waiting to hear you speak down your nose to all the other special interests groups that make up your base.
RE: What's Wrong with Open Borders - bullet - 06-23-2018 10:34 AM
(06-20-2018 05:00 PM)green Wrote:(06-20-2018 04:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: Uhhhhh, breaking into the country and entering is illegal too, you don't think they know this while they're scaling the fences?
It's a little loose of an analogy, but do we have a Country or not?
https://twitter.com/cspanhistory/status/1006490796986544128
WITHOUT WALLS
Little weak on your history, aren't you? That wall was to keep people in.