(11-05-2013 09:04 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Interesting the LIBERAL strong holds are last to report. I guess they have to figure out how many votes are needed to win. Fairfax as still report 0 votes 2 hours after the polls close.

That's one of the issues with Missouri. Kansas City and St. Louis (both liberal strongholds) almost ALWAYS hold back all their numbers until the rest of the state gets mostly counted.

It's BS that they do it, but nobody's able to do anything to change it.

Quote:Without the shutdown, Cuccinelli wins.
Republicans don't value winning elections as much as democrats do.

how do you figure Owl? Unless voters in Virginia are so stupid (yes, i'm going there) as to blame a federal closure on their governor situation?

it'll be interesting to see if Cuccinelli demands a recount?

didnt VA try to change the state electorate to favor republicans and pretty much fully disenfranchise the urban vote?

i wonder how much that hurt the republicans tonight

Donkey picked up 40,000 in margin from Fairfax County alone. Turns out federal workers pulling down bank like big government. Who knew?

Anyway ... it's not good news for the Dems tonight.

Christie crushed the Dems in NJ ... and even got nearly 1 in 4 black voters.

McAuliffe outspent a crazy sodomy-ban-supporter 10 to 1, and 4 to 1 in the final few weeks and still lost 15 points of ground in 3 weeks over repeated ObamaCare bashing.

The crazy sodomy-ban-supporter OUTPERFORMED Mitt Romney. So don't hand me this need-to-run-a-moderate garbage.

GOP Formula: Fight on reducing government, fight on reducing taxes, fight on ObamaCare ... call a truce on social issues.


The Dems don't have anybody to run against Christie. And the continued train wreck of ObamaCare could lead to more decimation for the Dems in the midterms.

(11-05-2013 09:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  didnt VA try to change the state electorate to favor republicans and pretty much fully disenfranchise the urban vote?

No, but I'm not surprised that that's your perception.

(11-05-2013 09:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  didnt VA try to change the state electorate to favor republicans and pretty much fully disenfranchise the urban vote?

Where'd you get that silly idea?

Quote:i wonder how much that hurt the republicans tonight

Absolutely zero effect on the outcome. The counties that went Democrat were expected to go Democrat, the counties that went Republican were expected to go Republican.

usually Da Saint is one of the reasonable ones. Are you really going the fraud route Da Saint.... seriously???????

This result spells trouble for the democrats in 2014. They can't spend like this in every race Obamacare will be an anchor around the candidates who continue to support it, like Kay Hagan in NC.

(11-05-2013 09:59 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  usually Da Saint is one of the reasonable ones. Are you really going the fraud route Da Saint.... seriously???????

I didn't say fraud, Mach.. I said it's something that shouldn't happen (IMO), you're telling me some of the precincts in St. Louis county cant' get counted prior to Jefferson City? I have issues with counties that want to be the ones to say "our numbers put candidate X over the top". Because they think the candidate will owe them something.

i.e., I live in St. Louis County, and I KNOW that they don't even count our precinct til late in the night, when it knows it can tip the table -either- direction.

It's not a case of fraud, it's a case of wanting to be the deciding factors.

In virginia's case.. is there ANYONE that didnt' think Fairfax county would be going to McAuliffe? So why withhold the numbers so long? (Note that the election didnt' get "declared" until Fairfax's numbers were in).

The ACA is a short term loser long term gainer. As long as they limit the losses so they can't over turn it it's a long term winner. The GOP has went full on sabotage for years. As long as the D's weather the storm the ACA will be a LONG TIME WINNER.

Huffpo says this loss is blow to Tea Party. I disagree, this race had everything thrown against the Republican, a well funded third party candidate, Billybob Clinton, Joe Biden, and Barry O all campaigned for the democrat in the last week. and the margin of victory is so small just a little more money and it could have been a different out come.

OK I get your point and I humbly apologize kind sir.

Cooooch would have won if the establishment had supported him.

(11-05-2013 10:03 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The ACA is a short term loser long term gainer. As long as they limit the losses so they can't over turn it it's a long term winner. The GOP has went full on sabotage for years. As long as the D's weather the storm the ACA will be a LONG TIME WINNER.

Even though it is going to explode the size and scope of government never never before seen?

Yeah, long-term winner. For who?

You can look at both sides of this. If this vote happens 3 weeks ago he loses by 15. You had continuing horrible coverage on the ACA over the last two weeks. I could make the argument it's the best environment for the Cucc in the last two weeks. I can't continue to be that bad. Eventually the ACA will get worked out.

(11-05-2013 09:59 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(11-05-2013 09:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  didnt VA try to change the state electorate to favor republicans and pretty much fully disenfranchise the urban vote?

Where'd you get that silly idea?

Quote:i wonder how much that hurt the republicans tonight

Absolutely zero effect on the outcome. The counties that went Democrat were expected to go Democrat, the counties that went Republican were expected to go Republican.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-...al-college

its funny what foxnews doesnt report

Cooooch would have won if the establishment had supported him.


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(11-05-2013 10:03 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(11-05-2013 09:59 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  usually Da Saint is one of the reasonable ones. Are you really going the fraud route Da Saint.... seriously???????

I didn't say fraud, Mach.. I said it's something that shouldn't happen (IMO), you're telling me some of the precincts in St. Louis county cant' get counted prior to Jefferson City? I have issues with counties that want to be the ones to say "our numbers put candidate X over the top". Because they think the candidate will owe them something.

i.e., I live in St. Louis County, and I KNOW that they don't even count our precinct til late in the night, when it knows it can tip the table -either- direction.

It's not a case of fraud, it's a case of wanting to be the deciding factors.

In virginia's case.. is there ANYONE that didnt' think Fairfax county would be going to McAuliffe? So why withhold the numbers so long? (Note that the election didnt' get "declared" until Fairfax's numbers were in).

Seems logical that it would take longer to county/verify everything in large population centers than in rural areas.

I was just watching the local election results here in Charlotte and it seemed like many of the higher population precincts reported later.

so a dude from my hometown gets elected gov. of VA

meanwhile every year the local elections in my hometown are between the two biggest jackas.ses

(11-05-2013 10:04 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Huffpo says this loss is blow to Tea Party. I disagree, this race had everything thrown against the Republican, a well funded third party candidate, Billybob Clinton, Joe Biden, and Barry O all campaigned for the democrat in the last week. and the margin of victory is so small just a little more money and it could have been a different out come.

I agree, how can a razor thin win for one guy be a body blow to a movement?

(11-05-2013 10:06 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Eventually the ACA will get worked out.

Or collapse under its own weight.