(10-28-2013 12:14 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 11:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Saying CEOs are overpaid when they make thousands of times more than other workers in their companies is not the same thing as being a socialist or a communist.

Would it anger you to know that particular CEOs make millions while their corporations use public welfare systems to supplement their pay structures? To break that down, the CEO gets paid millions to rip off and abuse the use of your tax dollars. Does that colour this conversation a little differently?

Indeed. You are still most certainly welcome to say whatever you would like.

Anger me? Uhhhh, no. Except perhaps at the legislative buffoons that would allow such a structure or an Executive branch either incapable or unwilling to prosecute in the instances of such easily identifiable fraud and abuse...
Jon Corzine, I'm looking at YOU!

Um. You may want to re-read his post.

(10-28-2013 12:25 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:18 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:14 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 11:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Saying CEOs are overpaid when they make thousands of times more than other workers in their companies is not the same thing as being a socialist or a communist.

Would it anger you to know that particular CEOs make millions while their corporations use public welfare systems to supplement their pay structures? To break that down, the CEO gets paid millions to rip off and abuse the use of your tax dollars. Does that colour this conversation a little differently?

Indeed. You are still most certainly welcome to say whatever you would like.

Anger me? Uhhhh, no. Except perhaps at the legislative buffoons that would allow such a structure or an Executive branch either incapable or unwilling to prosecute in the instances of such easily identifiable fraud and abuse...

Jon Corzine, I'm looking at YOU!

Prosecute? You'd have to break a law.

Underpaying people and having the government subsidize their dinner table will make a man millions.

That's greed. That's what massive CEO pay rewards.

Is "rip off" not akin to breaking a law in your book? It is in mine, least it was.

Who's underpaid? Go find another job elsewhere, people been doing that since the creation of man.

Greed is good. Keeps a person young and hungry. Kinda like starvation on the other end I guess. I'd prefer greed.

At least he'll spend that money. You know, spread the wealth the old fashioned way- buy a yacht.

You are bought and paid for by corporations.

(10-28-2013 01:16 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:25 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:18 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:14 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 11:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Saying CEOs are overpaid when they make thousands of times more than other workers in their companies is not the same thing as being a socialist or a communist.

Would it anger you to know that particular CEOs make millions while their corporations use public welfare systems to supplement their pay structures? To break that down, the CEO gets paid millions to rip off and abuse the use of your tax dollars. Does that colour this conversation a little differently?

Indeed. You are still most certainly welcome to say whatever you would like.

Anger me? Uhhhh, no. Except perhaps at the legislative buffoons that would allow such a structure or an Executive branch either incapable or unwilling to prosecute in the instances of such easily identifiable fraud and abuse...

Jon Corzine, I'm looking at YOU!

Prosecute? You'd have to break a law.

Underpaying people and having the government subsidize their dinner table will make a man millions.

That's greed. That's what massive CEO pay rewards.

Is "rip off" not akin to breaking a law in your book? It is in mine, least it was.

Who's underpaid? Go find another job elsewhere, people been doing that since the creation of man.

Greed is good. Keeps a person young and hungry. Kinda like starvation on the other end I guess. I'd prefer greed.

At least he'll spend that money. You know, spread the wealth the old fashioned way- buy a yacht.

That doesn't solve the problem. If every Wal Mart employee quit and went looking for a job, 5% of them would find a job, and it would likely be just as sh!tty. Wal Mart doesn't care if they should treat employees better, they're all replaceable.

Oh. what problem are we trying to solve?

Why would every wal-mart employee want to quit? I'm quite confident when I say this- that many of them are quite happy where they are and enjoy what they do. Content if you will.

How are these many mystery employees replaceable? By other unhappy people, that are treated poorly as well? Simple logic doesn't follow, here. Surprisingly.

BTW, who is Wal Mart and how do you know how he/she treats her employees?

(10-28-2013 01:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:16 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:25 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:18 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:14 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Indeed. You are still most certainly welcome to say whatever you would like.

Anger me? Uhhhh, no. Except perhaps at the legislative buffoons that would allow such a structure or an Executive branch either incapable or unwilling to prosecute in the instances of such easily identifiable fraud and abuse...

Jon Corzine, I'm looking at YOU!

Prosecute? You'd have to break a law.

Underpaying people and having the government subsidize their dinner table will make a man millions.

That's greed. That's what massive CEO pay rewards.

Is "rip off" not akin to breaking a law in your book? It is in mine, least it was.

Who's underpaid? Go find another job elsewhere, people been doing that since the creation of man.

Greed is good. Keeps a person young and hungry. Kinda like starvation on the other end I guess. I'd prefer greed.

At least he'll spend that money. You know, spread the wealth the old fashioned way- buy a yacht.

That doesn't solve the problem. If every Wal Mart employee quit and went looking for a job, 5% of them would find a job, and it would likely be just as sh!tty. Wal Mart doesn't care if they should treat employees better, they're all replaceable.

Oh. what problem are we trying to solve?

Why would every wal-mart employee want to quit? I'm quite confident when I say this- that many of them are quite happy where they are and enjoy what they do. Content if you will.

How are these many mystery employees replaceable? By other unhappy people, that are treated poorly as well? Simple logic doesn't follow, here. Surprisingly.

BTW, who is Wal Mart and how do you know how he/she treats her employees?

Do you think that unemployment is nonexistent? There are many willing people waiting for a chance to work anywhere.

(10-28-2013 01:21 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:14 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 11:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Saying CEOs are overpaid when they make thousands of times more than other workers in their companies is not the same thing as being a socialist or a communist.

Would it anger you to know that particular CEOs make millions while their corporations use public welfare systems to supplement their pay structures? To break that down, the CEO gets paid millions to rip off and abuse the use of your tax dollars. Does that colour this conversation a little differently?

Indeed. You are still most certainly welcome to say whatever you would like.

Anger me? Uhhhh, no. Except perhaps at the legislative buffoons that would allow such a structure or an Executive branch either incapable or unwilling to prosecute in the instances of such easily identifiable fraud and abuse...
Jon Corzine, I'm looking at YOU!

Um. You may want to re-read his post.

Oh, hi robs. you're up early today!

So, enlighten me, oh great sage, what part of his post do I need to re-read? Did I miss some pseudo-intellectual nuance? Help a brother out here, hunh?

(10-28-2013 01:32 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:16 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:25 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:18 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Prosecute? You'd have to break a law.

Underpaying people and having the government subsidize their dinner table will make a man millions.

That's greed. That's what massive CEO pay rewards.

Is "rip off" not akin to breaking a law in your book? It is in mine, least it was.

Who's underpaid? Go find another job elsewhere, people been doing that since the creation of man.

Greed is good. Keeps a person young and hungry. Kinda like starvation on the other end I guess. I'd prefer greed.

At least he'll spend that money. You know, spread the wealth the old fashioned way- buy a yacht.

That doesn't solve the problem. If every Wal Mart employee quit and went looking for a job, 5% of them would find a job, and it would likely be just as sh!tty. Wal Mart doesn't care if they should treat employees better, they're all replaceable.

Oh. what problem are we trying to solve?

Why would every wal-mart employee want to quit? I'm quite confident when I say this- that many of them are quite happy where they are and enjoy what they do. Content if you will.

How are these many mystery employees replaceable? By other unhappy people, that are treated poorly as well? Simple logic doesn't follow, here. Surprisingly.

BTW, who is Wal Mart and how do you know how he/she treats her employees?

Do you think that unemployment is nonexistent? There are many willing people waiting for a chance to work anywhere.

Are you changing the subject and running from your other "point", yet again? Whatever that may have been?

(10-28-2013 01:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:16 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:25 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:18 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:14 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Indeed. You are still most certainly welcome to say whatever you would like.

Anger me? Uhhhh, no. Except perhaps at the legislative buffoons that would allow such a structure or an Executive branch either incapable or unwilling to prosecute in the instances of such easily identifiable fraud and abuse...

Jon Corzine, I'm looking at YOU!

Prosecute? You'd have to break a law.

Underpaying people and having the government subsidize their dinner table will make a man millions.

That's greed. That's what massive CEO pay rewards.

Is "rip off" not akin to breaking a law in your book? It is in mine, least it was.

Who's underpaid? Go find another job elsewhere, people been doing that since the creation of man.

Greed is good. Keeps a person young and hungry. Kinda like starvation on the other end I guess. I'd prefer greed.

At least he'll spend that money. You know, spread the wealth the old fashioned way- buy a yacht.

That doesn't solve the problem. If every Wal Mart employee quit and went looking for a job, 5% of them would find a job, and it would likely be just as sh!tty. Wal Mart doesn't care if they should treat employees better, they're all replaceable.

Oh. what problem are we trying to solve?

Why would every wal-mart employee want to quit? I'm quite confident when I say this- that many of them are quite happy where they are and enjoy what they do. Content if you will.

How are these many mystery employees replaceable? By other unhappy people, that are treated poorly as well? Simple logic doesn't follow, here. Surprisingly.

BTW, who is Wal Mart and how do you know how he/she treats her employees?

Corporations are people my friend. Because Wal-Mart is a Republican.

(10-28-2013 01:34 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:21 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:14 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 11:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Saying CEOs are overpaid when they make thousands of times more than other workers in their companies is not the same thing as being a socialist or a communist.

Would it anger you to know that particular CEOs make millions while their corporations use public welfare systems to supplement their pay structures? To break that down, the CEO gets paid millions to rip off and abuse the use of your tax dollars. Does that colour this conversation a little differently?

Indeed. You are still most certainly welcome to say whatever you would like.

Anger me? Uhhhh, no. Except perhaps at the legislative buffoons that would allow such a structure or an Executive branch either incapable or unwilling to prosecute in the instances of such easily identifiable fraud and abuse...
Jon Corzine, I'm looking at YOU!

Um. You may want to re-read his post.

Oh, hi robs. you're up early today!

So, enlighten me, oh great sage, what part of his post do I need to re-read? Did I miss some pseudo-intellectual nuance? Help a brother out here, hunh?

You might want to try the part I highlighted. I have been up for quite a while.

(10-28-2013 01:41 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:16 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:25 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:18 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Prosecute? You'd have to break a law.

Underpaying people and having the government subsidize their dinner table will make a man millions.

That's greed. That's what massive CEO pay rewards.

Is "rip off" not akin to breaking a law in your book? It is in mine, least it was.

Who's underpaid? Go find another job elsewhere, people been doing that since the creation of man.

Greed is good. Keeps a person young and hungry. Kinda like starvation on the other end I guess. I'd prefer greed.

At least he'll spend that money. You know, spread the wealth the old fashioned way- buy a yacht.

That doesn't solve the problem. If every Wal Mart employee quit and went looking for a job, 5% of them would find a job, and it would likely be just as sh!tty. Wal Mart doesn't care if they should treat employees better, they're all replaceable.

Oh. what problem are we trying to solve?

Why would every wal-mart employee want to quit? I'm quite confident when I say this- that many of them are quite happy where they are and enjoy what they do. Content if you will.

How are these many mystery employees replaceable? By other unhappy people, that are treated poorly as well? Simple logic doesn't follow, here. Surprisingly.

BTW, who is Wal Mart and how do you know how he/she treats her employees?

Corporations are people my friend. Because Wal-Mart is a Republican.

interesting. do you, perhaps, have a picture of this Wal-Mart person?

gotta be as elusive as that damn Sasquatch.

(10-28-2013 01:43 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:34 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:21 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:14 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 11:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Saying CEOs are overpaid when they make thousands of times more than other workers in their companies is not the same thing as being a socialist or a communist.

Would it anger you to know that particular CEOs make millions while their corporations use public welfare systems to supplement their pay structures? To break that down, the CEO gets paid millions to rip off and abuse the use of your tax dollars. Does that colour this conversation a little differently?

Indeed. You are still most certainly welcome to say whatever you would like.

Anger me? Uhhhh, no. Except perhaps at the legislative buffoons that would allow such a structure or an Executive branch either incapable or unwilling to prosecute in the instances of such easily identifiable fraud and abuse...
Jon Corzine, I'm looking at YOU!

Um. You may want to re-read his post.

Oh, hi robs. you're up early today!

So, enlighten me, oh great sage, what part of his post do I need to re-read? Did I miss some pseudo-intellectual nuance? Help a brother out here, hunh?

You might want to try the part I highlighted. I have been up for quite a while.

Well that's awful nice to hear. too bad you woke up on the stupid side of the bed again today.

the part you highlighted is what I wrote. My response to him...

Care to try again?

"Wal-Mart is a Republican"



It's sad but true.

(10-28-2013 01:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:32 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:16 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:25 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Is "rip off" not akin to breaking a law in your book? It is in mine, least it was.

Who's underpaid? Go find another job elsewhere, people been doing that since the creation of man.

Greed is good. Keeps a person young and hungry. Kinda like starvation on the other end I guess. I'd prefer greed.

At least he'll spend that money. You know, spread the wealth the old fashioned way- buy a yacht.

That doesn't solve the problem. If every Wal Mart employee quit and went looking for a job, 5% of them would find a job, and it would likely be just as sh!tty. Wal Mart doesn't care if they should treat employees better, they're all replaceable.

Oh. what problem are we trying to solve?

Why would every wal-mart employee want to quit? I'm quite confident when I say this- that many of them are quite happy where they are and enjoy what they do. Content if you will.

How are these many mystery employees replaceable? By other unhappy people, that are treated poorly as well? Simple logic doesn't follow, here. Surprisingly.

BTW, who is Wal Mart and how do you know how he/she treats her employees?

Do you think that unemployment is nonexistent? There are many willing people waiting for a chance to work anywhere.

Are you changing the subject and running from your other "point", yet again? Whatever that may have been?

The problem: Obscenely paid CEO's, underpaid labor. Wal Mart may or not be a good example, it's just a business that I picked.

I'd say Wal Mart is a great example. Here in Alabama they use subsidies for the poor as a great way to support their pay structure. They pay them just enough to continue to buy everything they need at Wal-Mart while letting the state chip in.

It's theft and nothing short of immoral.

(10-28-2013 01:50 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:32 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:16 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  That doesn't solve the problem. If every Wal Mart employee quit and went looking for a job, 5% of them would find a job, and it would likely be just as sh!tty. Wal Mart doesn't care if they should treat employees better, they're all replaceable.

Oh. what problem are we trying to solve?

Why would every wal-mart employee want to quit? I'm quite confident when I say this- that many of them are quite happy where they are and enjoy what they do. Content if you will.

How are these many mystery employees replaceable? By other unhappy people, that are treated poorly as well? Simple logic doesn't follow, here. Surprisingly.

BTW, who is Wal Mart and how do you know how he/she treats her employees?

Do you think that unemployment is nonexistent? There are many willing people waiting for a chance to work anywhere.

Are you changing the subject and running from your other "point", yet again? Whatever that may have been?

The problem: Obscenely paid CEO's, underpaid labor. Wal Mart may or not be a good example, it's just a business that I picked.

Oh. I thought they were being treated poorly. Or is that the same thing now? Generally happy, content workers that may enjoy their jobs just fine, yet Dmac has determined they are underpaid.

got it. So, again why not go find another job? Hell, why not become one of them "obscene" CEO's?

Who's stopping you?

(10-28-2013 01:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:41 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:16 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:25 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Is "rip off" not akin to breaking a law in your book? It is in mine, least it was.

Who's underpaid? Go find another job elsewhere, people been doing that since the creation of man.

Greed is good. Keeps a person young and hungry. Kinda like starvation on the other end I guess. I'd prefer greed.

At least he'll spend that money. You know, spread the wealth the old fashioned way- buy a yacht.

That doesn't solve the problem. If every Wal Mart employee quit and went looking for a job, 5% of them would find a job, and it would likely be just as sh!tty. Wal Mart doesn't care if they should treat employees better, they're all replaceable.

Oh. what problem are we trying to solve?

Why would every wal-mart employee want to quit? I'm quite confident when I say this- that many of them are quite happy where they are and enjoy what they do. Content if you will.

How are these many mystery employees replaceable? By other unhappy people, that are treated poorly as well? Simple logic doesn't follow, here. Surprisingly.

BTW, who is Wal Mart and how do you know how he/she treats her employees?

Corporations are people my friend. Because Wal-Mart is a Republican.

interesting. do you, perhaps, have a picture of this Wal-Mart person?

gotta be as elusive as that damn Sasquatch.

I think you need to make a stop here and ask Clarence Thomas. I think he has one.

(10-28-2013 01:55 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:50 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:32 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Oh. what problem are we trying to solve?

Why would every wal-mart employee want to quit? I'm quite confident when I say this- that many of them are quite happy where they are and enjoy what they do. Content if you will.

How are these many mystery employees replaceable? By other unhappy people, that are treated poorly as well? Simple logic doesn't follow, here. Surprisingly.

BTW, who is Wal Mart and how do you know how he/she treats her employees?

Do you think that unemployment is nonexistent? There are many willing people waiting for a chance to work anywhere.

Are you changing the subject and running from your other "point", yet again? Whatever that may have been?

The problem: Obscenely paid CEO's, underpaid labor. Wal Mart may or not be a good example, it's just a business that I picked.

Oh. I thought they were being treated poorly. Or is that the same thing now? Generally happy, content workers that may enjoy their jobs just fine, yet Dmac has determined they are underpaid.

got it. So, again why not go find another job? Hell, why not become one of them "obscene" CEO's?

Who's stopping you?

This has nothing to do with me personally. I'm already on a solid career path. I'm talking about low level employees that don't making a living wage. These people aren't all going to become CEO's (or even managers).

(10-28-2013 01:52 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I'd say Wal Mart is a great example. Here in Alabama they use subsidies for the poor as a great way to support their pay structure. They pay them just enough to continue to buy everything they need at Wal-Mart while letting the state chip in.

It's theft and nothing short of immoral.

interesting. Sounds to me like your problem is with the State. As I said earlier.

Governments are quite often immoral. Socialist ones in particular. Criminal even.

(10-28-2013 01:59 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:52 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I'd say Wal Mart is a great example. Here in Alabama they use subsidies for the poor as a great way to support their pay structure. They pay them just enough to continue to buy everything they need at Wal-Mart while letting the state chip in.

It's theft and nothing short of immoral.

interesting. Sounds to me like your problem is with the State. As I said earlier.

Governments are quite often immoral. Socialist ones in particular. Criminal even.

It's similar in other states as well.

Alabama is about as red as it gets.

(10-28-2013 01:46 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:43 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:34 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:21 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 12:14 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Indeed. You are still most certainly welcome to say whatever you would like.

Anger me? Uhhhh, no. Except perhaps at the legislative buffoons that would allow such a structure or an Executive branch either incapable or unwilling to prosecute in the instances of such easily identifiable fraud and abuse...
Jon Corzine, I'm looking at YOU!

Um. You may want to re-read his post.

Oh, hi robs. you're up early today!

So, enlighten me, oh great sage, what part of his post do I need to re-read? Did I miss some pseudo-intellectual nuance? Help a brother out here, hunh?

You might want to try the part I highlighted. I have been up for quite a while.

Well that's awful nice to hear. too bad you woke up on the stupid side of the bed again today.

the part you highlighted is what I wrote. My response to him...

Care to try again?

Yes. You responded with something that he wasn't even talking about.

(10-28-2013 01:58 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:55 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:50 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 01:32 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Do you think that unemployment is nonexistent? There are many willing people waiting for a chance to work anywhere.

Are you changing the subject and running from your other "point", yet again? Whatever that may have been?

The problem: Obscenely paid CEO's, underpaid labor. Wal Mart may or not be a good example, it's just a business that I picked.

Oh. I thought they were being treated poorly. Or is that the same thing now? Generally happy, content workers that may enjoy their jobs just fine, yet Dmac has determined they are underpaid.

got it. So, again why not go find another job? Hell, why not become one of them "obscene" CEO's?

Who's stopping you?

This has nothing to do with me personally. I'm already on a solid career path. I'm talking about low level employees that don't making a living wage. These people aren't all going to become CEO's (or even managers).

You wasn't meant as "You" personally. Meant in the generic.

Granted, they probably all won't become CEO's or maybe even managers, is this now Wal Marts problem or fault?

Is somehow capping a GE CEO's pay by force of government going to make these peoples lives more fulfilling? keep them from being treated "poorly" by Wal Mart?

you really haven't thought this through much, have you?