(10-26-2013 01:46 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Unfortunately, usually the "dialogue" is just pinning all the problems on others and demanding money.
It's ugly to say but that's usually the reality.
I'm also not blind to the issues it's just the "dialogue" coming from the black leadership is not intended to solve problems.
You'll rarely hear the normal black American demanding money (emphasis on normal). I've never actually heard it. It's seems to be a tired thing that people say.
Here's the other thing, there is no black leadership. They kind of fabricated a job for themselves and all forms of media (not exactly run by black people) just kind of go along with it. If it weren't for the media, Sharpton would still be a travel manager for a James Brown cover band. Jackson would've faded in the 70's.
I live in Montgomery and I see and hear it a lot my friend. Montgomery is full of inner city black stereotypes unfortunately. We have terrible schools, high crime, high unemployment, everything. We also have our unfair share of race bating.
As for the leadership, they may not be appointed but they are, for better or worse, the only thing that can be pointed to by most of rural and suburban whites.
(10-26-2013 01:46 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Unfortunately, usually the "dialogue" is just pinning all the problems on others and demanding money.
It's ugly to say but that's usually the reality.
I'm also not blind to the issues it's just the "dialogue" coming from the black leadership is not intended to solve problems.
You'll rarely hear the normal black American demanding money (emphasis on normal). I've never actually heard it. It's seems to be a tired thing that people say.
Here's the other thing, there is no black leadership. They kind of fabricated a job for themselves and all forms of media (not exactly run by black people) just kind of go along with it. If it weren't for the media, Sharpton would still be a travel manager for a James Brown cover band. Jackson would've faded in the 70's.
I live in Montgomery and I see and hear it a lot my friend. Montgomery is full of inner city black stereotypes unfortunately. We have terrible schools, high crime, high unemployment, everything. We also have our unfair share of race bating.
As for the leadership, they may not be appointed but they are, for better or worse, the only thing that can be pointed to by most of rural and suburban whites.
(10-26-2013 01:46 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Unfortunately, usually the "dialogue" is just pinning all the problems on others and demanding money.
It's ugly to say but that's usually the reality.
I'm also not blind to the issues it's just the "dialogue" coming from the black leadership is not intended to solve problems.
You'll rarely hear the normal black American demanding money (emphasis on normal). I've never actually heard it. It's seems to be a tired thing that people say.
Here's the other thing, there is no black leadership. They kind of fabricated a job for themselves and all forms of media (not exactly run by black people) just kind of go along with it. If it weren't for the media, Sharpton would still be a travel manager for a James Brown cover band. Jackson would've faded in the 70's.
I live in Montgomery and I see and hear it a lot my friend. Montgomery is full of inner city black stereotypes unfortunately. We have terrible schools, high crime, high unemployment, everything. We also have our unfair share of race bating.
As for the leadership, they may not be appointed but they are, for better or worse, the only thing that can be pointed to by most of rural and suburban whites.
I agree.
Its the same thing in Memphis. The inner city has the worst schools, high murder rate, high unemployment.
But the mayors office, city council and school board have been run by blacks for decades now.
It's not a southern city issue either.
Cincinnati has the same problems and a city government and public school system run by the same ilk/party.
They have one solution to every problem...throw more money at it...
but protect the unions, hold no one accountable and demand no personal responsibility.
(This post was last modified: 10-26-2013 04:02 PM by mptnstr@44.)
(10-26-2013 04:02 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: It's not a southern city issue either.
Cincinnati has the same problems and a city government and public school system run by the same ilk/party.
They have one solution to every problem...throw more money at it...
but protect the unions, hold no one accountable and demand no personal responsibility.
(10-26-2013 04:02 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: It's not a southern city issue either.
Cincinnati has the same problems and a city government and public school system run by the same ilk/party.
They have one solution to every problem...throw more money at it...
but protect the unions, hold no one accountable and demand no personal responsibility.
(10-26-2013 04:02 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: It's not a southern city issue either.
Cincinnati has the same problems and a city government and public school system run by the same ilk/party.
They have one solution to every problem...throw more money at it...
but protect the unions, hold no one accountable and demand no personal responsibility.
Yup.
Its a nation wide problem
The blacks.
I said ilk/party and I meant liberals/democratic party.
City and school board leaders in Cincinnati are liberal democrats.
You added race. I didn't.
"Barry" has only made race relations worse. All he has cared about is leveling income and giving as much money as possible to his constituency out of the federal treasury.
(This post was last modified: 10-26-2013 11:49 PM by UConn-SMU.)
(10-26-2013 04:02 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: It's not a southern city issue either.
Cincinnati has the same problems and a city government and public school system run by the same ilk/party.
They have one solution to every problem...throw more money at it...
but protect the unions, hold no one accountable and demand no personal responsibility.
Yup.
Its a nation wide problem
The blacks.
I said ilk/party and I meant liberals/democratic party.
City and school board leaders in Cincinnati are liberal democrats.
You added race. I didn't.
I don't blame the inner city poor.
The inner city poor are pawns in the game that is the "Great Society" plan.
Their long-term lot is the intended consequence LBJ wanted after hooking them up to the government teat.
(10-27-2013 09:34 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: I don't blame the inner city poor.
The inner city poor are pawns in the game that is the "Great Society" plan.
Their long-term lot is the intended consequence LBJ wanted after hooking them up to the government teat.
Every independent study has shown the "war on poverty" and Great Society were detrimental to those it tried to help. But liberals respond by saying we just didn't tax & spend enough.
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2013 10:02 AM by UConn-SMU.)
(10-25-2013 07:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote: Mach, I think today's liberal society and the need for progressives to feel like they're doing something is to make things as easy as possible for disadvantaged blacks, thus unknowingly making it harder for them to be weaned off the system. Most people ultimately do better when they work for something rather than have it handed to them.
Your post is a clear example of what is wrong in America today. Too many people believe that the black man's problems stem from their want of a hand out. As if somehow the pigment of their skin makes them lazier than any other American.
i already tried to have a legitimate conversation about this book on this same forum before and the bigotry & hatred from the conservative posters made me throw in the towel on it.
i am amazed at the type of thinking that still exists in the year 2013. i was also pretty amazed at how many people think its ok to act like they know what they are talking about in a subject they know completely nothing about.
(10-27-2013 10:47 AM)john01992 Wrote: i already tried to have a legitimate conversation about this book on this same forum before and the bigotry & hatred from the conservative posters made me throw in the towel on it.
i am amazed at the type of thinking that still exists in the year 2013. i was also pretty amazed at how many people think its ok to act like they know what they are talking about in a subject they know completely nothing about.
Indeed
It is extremely upsetting that in this day and age, people still beleive that our prisons and inner cities are filled with minorities because they are lazy or simply want a hand out.
There has never been a lefty on this board that wanted to have a legitimate conversation about race. Ever. When the right brings up hard truths the left screams racism and when the left tries to bring up hard truths they're truths are inherently prejudiced. When everyone admits what their own prejudices are with respect to all races only then can a legitimate conversation be had. To deny your prejudice is to deny your human nature. Let's also not water down what it means to be racist. Doing so only minimizes what the Civil rights struggle meant and what people around the world face today. Calling black women bad drivers isn't racist, it's prejudiced. Enslaving or exterminating people because of their race, well that's racism.
(10-27-2013 10:47 AM)john01992 Wrote: i already tried to have a legitimate conversation about this book on this same forum before and the bigotry & hatred from the conservative posters made me throw in the towel on it.
i am amazed at the type of thinking that still exists in the year 2013. i was also pretty amazed at how many people think its ok to act like they know what they are talking about in a subject they know completely nothing about.
It's funny how liberals brand conservatives as "racist" when all conservatives want is a colorblind society.
The only way to avoid being called a racist is to support affirmative action policies and all kinds of government goodies to non-whites.
