yeah, that wouldn't be a shock at all given the sports properties or lack thereof that FS1 can bid on. it'd be more news worthy if they weren't going to bid on it.
(10-17-2013 09:33 AM)stever20 Wrote: it would be huge. You just wonder if ESPN would way overbid to keep FS1 from getting, knowing the lack of other properties out there.
Well maybe the NFL wouldn't want ESPN to have both the Thursday and Monday Night games. They tend to like to spread things out. Also why wouldn't Fox overbid for it since this would be the piece to put them on the map? Fox has no issues throwing around money, you keep forgetting that. They are well aware that having the NFL can make or break your channel. (See Fox prime as a...well PRIME example) Fox was basically the WB before stealing the NFC contract away from CBS back in the early 90's.
This is the opportunity Fox has been looking for. If they can pull this off and then go after the B1G and NBA it could turn the tide in their favor going forward.
If they land the NFL then the NBA is more open to playing on that network. The B1G would be happy since they know FS1 wont be asking them to play any FB games on Thurs.
This is it right here for FS1 and i'm pretty sure everyone over there knows that too. I suspect they will be VERY aggressive in their pursuit of this property.
(10-17-2013 09:33 AM)stever20 Wrote: it would be huge. You just wonder if ESPN would way overbid to keep FS1 from getting, knowing the lack of other properties out there.
Well maybe the NFL wouldn't want ESPN to have both the Thursday and Monday Night games. They tend to like to spread things out. Also why wouldn't Fox overbid for it since this would be the piece to put them on the map? Fox has no issues throwing around money, you keep forgetting that. They are well aware that having the NFL can make or break your channel. (See Fox prime as a...well PRIME example) Fox was basically the WB before stealing the NFC contract away from CBS back in the early 90's.
This is the opportunity Fox has been looking for. If they can pull this off and then go after the B1G and NBA it could turn the tide in their favor going forward.
If they land the NFL then the NBA is more open to playing on that network. The B1G would be happy since they know FS1 wont be asking them to play any FB games on Thurs.
This is it right here for FS1 and i'm pretty sure everyone over there knows that too. I suspect they will be VERY aggressive in their pursuit of this property.
The thing is, if ESPN knows what NFL could do for FS1 and could stop it, why wouldn't they overbid? If ESPN outbid Fox, I don't see them saying, well you have MNF, we're going to take the lesser bid for Fox.
I think ESPN knows that the NFL is the only thing that could get FS1 going. They know from experience. I'm not saying I hope ESPN gets it, but I could easily see ESPN pushing big time for it.
(10-17-2013 09:33 AM)stever20 Wrote: it would be huge. You just wonder if ESPN would way overbid to keep FS1 from getting, knowing the lack of other properties out there.
Well maybe the NFL wouldn't want ESPN to have both the Thursday and Monday Night games. They tend to like to spread things out. Also why wouldn't Fox overbid for it since this would be the piece to put them on the map? Fox has no issues throwing around money, you keep forgetting that. They are well aware that having the NFL can make or break your channel. (See Fox prime as a...well PRIME example) Fox was basically the WB before stealing the NFC contract away from CBS back in the early 90's.
This is the opportunity Fox has been looking for. If they can pull this off and then go after the B1G and NBA it could turn the tide in their favor going forward.
If they land the NFL then the NBA is more open to playing on that network. The B1G would be happy since they know FS1 wont be asking them to play any FB games on Thurs.
This is it right here for FS1 and i'm pretty sure everyone over there knows that too. I suspect they will be VERY aggressive in their pursuit of this property.
The thing is, if ESPN knows what NFL could do for FS1 and could stop it, why wouldn't they overbid? If ESPN outbid Fox, I don't see them saying, well you have MNF, we're going to take the lesser bid for Fox.
I think ESPN knows that the NFL is the only thing that could get FS1 going. They know from experience. I'm not saying I hope ESPN gets it, but I could easily see ESPN pushing big time for it.
But you forget the other side where Fox knows it has to have it and is very much willing to throw around the money to get it. Not getting it will not kill espn, FS1 not getting it will hurt them much much more. Thats why FS1 will overbid for it as well. If the bids are close the NFL much rather spread the love then give it all to one channel.
Fox will open up the war chest to get these games.
(10-17-2013 09:33 AM)stever20 Wrote: it would be huge. You just wonder if ESPN would way overbid to keep FS1 from getting, knowing the lack of other properties out there.
Well maybe the NFL wouldn't want ESPN to have both the Thursday and Monday Night games. They tend to like to spread things out. Also why wouldn't Fox overbid for it since this would be the piece to put them on the map? Fox has no issues throwing around money, you keep forgetting that. They are well aware that having the NFL can make or break your channel. (See Fox prime as a...well PRIME example) Fox was basically the WB before stealing the NFC contract away from CBS back in the early 90's.
This is the opportunity Fox has been looking for. If they can pull this off and then go after the B1G and NBA it could turn the tide in their favor going forward.
If they land the NFL then the NBA is more open to playing on that network. The B1G would be happy since they know FS1 wont be asking them to play any FB games on Thurs.
This is it right here for FS1 and i'm pretty sure everyone over there knows that too. I suspect they will be VERY aggressive in their pursuit of this property.
The thing is, if ESPN knows what NFL could do for FS1 and could stop it, why wouldn't they overbid? If ESPN outbid Fox, I don't see them saying, well you have MNF, we're going to take the lesser bid for Fox.
I think ESPN knows that the NFL is the only thing that could get FS1 going. They know from experience. I'm not saying I hope ESPN gets it, but I could easily see ESPN pushing big time for it.
But you forget the other side where Fox knows it has to have it and is very much willing to throw around the money to get it. Not getting it will not kill espn, FS1 not getting it will hurt them much much more. Thats why FS1 will overbid for it as well. If the bids are close the NFL much rather spread the love then give it all to one channel.
Fox will open up the war chest to get these games.
I agree that FS1 will try to throw the money around. I think ESPN will as well. I don't agree with your thought that if it's close NFL will just automatically give to FS1. I think if anything, it may be the other way, that the NFL would rather go with the known quanity that has good ratings already. Also, NFL knows by doing this, they for good eliminate the competition on Thursday night vs NCAA games.
For ESPN also- if they spend a bit more than expected to get the TNF games, they know they might not have to spend as much for NBA and Big Ten games. Probably well worth it.
(10-17-2013 09:33 AM)stever20 Wrote: it would be huge. You just wonder if ESPN would way overbid to keep FS1 from getting, knowing the lack of other properties out there.
Well maybe the NFL wouldn't want ESPN to have both the Thursday and Monday Night games. They tend to like to spread things out. Also why wouldn't Fox overbid for it since this would be the piece to put them on the map? Fox has no issues throwing around money, you keep forgetting that. They are well aware that having the NFL can make or break your channel. (See Fox prime as a...well PRIME example) Fox was basically the WB before stealing the NFC contract away from CBS back in the early 90's.
This is the opportunity Fox has been looking for. If they can pull this off and then go after the B1G and NBA it could turn the tide in their favor going forward.
If they land the NFL then the NBA is more open to playing on that network. The B1G would be happy since they know FS1 wont be asking them to play any FB games on Thurs.
This is it right here for FS1 and i'm pretty sure everyone over there knows that too. I suspect they will be VERY aggressive in their pursuit of this property.
The thing is, if ESPN knows what NFL could do for FS1 and could stop it, why wouldn't they overbid? If ESPN outbid Fox, I don't see them saying, well you have MNF, we're going to take the lesser bid for Fox.
I think ESPN knows that the NFL is the only thing that could get FS1 going. They know from experience. I'm not saying I hope ESPN gets it, but I could easily see ESPN pushing big time for it.
But you forget the other side where Fox knows it has to have it and is very much willing to throw around the money to get it. Not getting it will not kill espn, FS1 not getting it will hurt them much much more. Thats why FS1 will overbid for it as well. If the bids are close the NFL much rather spread the love then give it all to one channel.
Fox will open up the war chest to get these games.
I agree that FS1 will try to throw the money around. I think ESPN will as well. I don't agree with your thought that if it's close NFL will just automatically give to FS1. I think if anything, it may be the other way, that the NFL would rather go with the known quanity that has good ratings already. Also, NFL knows by doing this, they for good eliminate the competition on Thursday night vs NCAA games.
For ESPN also- if they spend a bit more than expected to get the TNF games, they know they might not have to spend as much for NBA and Big Ten games. Probably well worth it.
Lots of assumptions here. If ESPN overpays and wins then it wont have to pay much for the NBA? I get what you're trying to say but once again the opposite could be true. it could mean Fox now knows it has to pay more and that the NBA is worth even more to them since they can't let ESPN take all the valuable property.
Also if ESPN gets both the ThNF and the NBA then that spells doom for a lot of the college properties that ESPN owns. They will get pushed out the way for the pro properties.
(10-17-2013 12:11 PM)IceJus10 Wrote: NBC already owns the non-NFL network Thursday telecasts... I would think they'd get first right with an existing contract to pay more and expand.
The opening kick off and what else? Thanksgiving belongs to Fox and CBS. Also where are they showing this game? NBC sports doesn't have the household reach that the NFL would be looking for. Also NBC has not shown the fortitude to open up their wallets for valuable sports properties.
(10-17-2013 11:40 AM)NJRedMan Wrote: Well maybe the NFL wouldn't want ESPN to have both the Thursday and Monday Night games. They tend to like to spread things out. Also why wouldn't Fox overbid for it since this would be the piece to put them on the map? Fox has no issues throwing around money, you keep forgetting that. They are well aware that having the NFL can make or break your channel. (See Fox prime as a...well PRIME example) Fox was basically the WB before stealing the NFC contract away from CBS back in the early 90's.
This is the opportunity Fox has been looking for. If they can pull this off and then go after the B1G and NBA it could turn the tide in their favor going forward.
If they land the NFL then the NBA is more open to playing on that network. The B1G would be happy since they know FS1 wont be asking them to play any FB games on Thurs.
This is it right here for FS1 and i'm pretty sure everyone over there knows that too. I suspect they will be VERY aggressive in their pursuit of this property.
The thing is, if ESPN knows what NFL could do for FS1 and could stop it, why wouldn't they overbid? If ESPN outbid Fox, I don't see them saying, well you have MNF, we're going to take the lesser bid for Fox.
I think ESPN knows that the NFL is the only thing that could get FS1 going. They know from experience. I'm not saying I hope ESPN gets it, but I could easily see ESPN pushing big time for it.
But you forget the other side where Fox knows it has to have it and is very much willing to throw around the money to get it. Not getting it will not kill espn, FS1 not getting it will hurt them much much more. Thats why FS1 will overbid for it as well. If the bids are close the NFL much rather spread the love then give it all to one channel.
Fox will open up the war chest to get these games.
I agree that FS1 will try to throw the money around. I think ESPN will as well. I don't agree with your thought that if it's close NFL will just automatically give to FS1. I think if anything, it may be the other way, that the NFL would rather go with the known quanity that has good ratings already. Also, NFL knows by doing this, they for good eliminate the competition on Thursday night vs NCAA games.
For ESPN also- if they spend a bit more than expected to get the TNF games, they know they might not have to spend as much for NBA and Big Ten games. Probably well worth it.
Lots of assumptions here. If ESPN overpays and wins then it wont have to pay much for the NBA? I get what you're trying to say but once again the opposite could be true. it could mean Fox now knows it has to pay more and that the NBA is worth even more to them since they can't let ESPN take all the valuable property.
Also if ESPN gets both the ThNF and the NBA then that spells doom for a lot of the college properties that ESPN owns. They will get pushed out the way for the pro properties.
Not really though. If they keep their same NBA package, won't change much of anything at all during the winter. For football, would just mean more Saturday games, and more games on ESPNU/news.
(10-17-2013 12:11 PM)IceJus10 Wrote: NBC already owns the non-NFL network Thursday telecasts... I would think they'd get first right with an existing contract to pay more and expand.
The opening kick off and what else? Thanksgiving belongs to Fox and CBS. Also where are they showing this game? NBC sports doesn't have the household reach that the NFL would be looking for. Also NBC has not shown the fortitude to open up their wallets for valuable sports properties.
NBC has a Thanksgiving game now as well with the new deal(remember, the old Butt Fumble was on NBC last year).
