Machiavelli
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When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
Let's have a nice fireside chat about it. If a leader is young enough and the country wants him, why are we bound by the 22nd amendment? What are good arguments against it if it's the will of the people?
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
FDR 'nuff said.
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
We are not bound by the 22nd Amendment. Here is the process:
Constitution of the United States of America, Article V: The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article, and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of it's equal Suffrage in the Senate.
Have at it, and watch as we descend in banana republic status. American's of all stripes and colors and political leaning should fear an Imperial Washington and an Imperial Presidency.
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Machiavelli
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
I understand that Stanley. It's just hope we all can understand that when you get president this good, we should be able to make exceptions. He's leading us ALL forward. Let's all just hope. Hope for the best. Hope and Change.
I'll leave you with a fitting quote from one of my favorite movies. Your Red and I'm Andy Stanley.
Remember, Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. I will be hoping that this letter finds you, and finds you well. Your friend. Andy.
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Machiavelli
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
Let's HOPE we all have the foresight to abolish the 22nd amendment. Maybe one day the right could have a good leader too. Like Reagan for instance. Let's call it the Reagan Amendment in honor of Ron. We should abolish the 22nd amendment.
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
We do not need to extend how long politicians can stay in office. If anything, we need to look at adding term limits to other positions.
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| 10-14-2013 09:22 AM |
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Machiavelli
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
but we should be able to make an exception for Obama. He's just that good.
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| 10-14-2013 09:24 AM |
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
(10-14-2013 09:03 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: Let's have a nice fireside chat about it. If a leader is young enough and the country wants him, why are we bound by the 22nd amendment? What are good arguments against it if it's the will of the people?
Exactly. Either term limits for everyone (including the Supreme Court) or no one.
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
(10-14-2013 09:24 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: but we should be able to make an exception for Obama. He's just that good.
He wouldn't run again anyway because he wouldn't win.
(This post was last modified: 10-14-2013 09:33 AM by firmbizzle.)
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Machiavelli
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
You may disagree Little Rock. You have that right. I respect that, but a strong majority of Americans disagree with you especially in an election year. He is a great leader. You don't always have to agree with him.
It's kind of like this.
Get on the bus or get run over by it. I'm paying my toll to ride the Obama Express to happiness and you should too. I think after a time you will see how good he has been for our country. Let him run against the "BEST" the GOP can come up with. You don't let Miguel Caberra retire 8 years in when he's pushing for the triple crownand neither should the good ole US of A with President Obama. You just need to find a slugger for the GOP and let the "BEST MAN WIN"!
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
(10-14-2013 09:34 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: You may disagree Little Rock. You have that right. I respect that, but a strong majority of Americans disagree with you especially in an election year. He is a great leader. You don't always have to agree with him.
It's kind of like this.
Get on the bus or get run over by it. I'm paying my toll to ride the Obama Express to happiness and you should too. I think after a time you will see how good he has been for our country. Let him run against the "BEST" the GOP can come up with. You don't let Miguel Caberra retire 8 years in when he's pushing for the triple crownand neither should the good ole US of A with President Obama. You just need to find a slugger for the GOP and let the "BEST MAN WIN"!
Your trolls are weak, predictable and uninteresting.
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
(10-14-2013 09:24 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: but we should be able to make an exception for Obama. He's just that good.
Talk about Trolling...................even you don't believe this clown should be in office more than 2 terms. I know you don't.
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Machiavelli
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
Are you trying to say you would be against Ronald Reagan getting a third term? Just what exactly are you guy's getting at with these trolling accusations ? It doesn't make sense. Why would we want to limit ourselves?
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| 10-14-2013 09:45 AM |
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Machiavelli
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
You don't let Gretzky retire 8 seasons in after scoring 50 goals because of some weak rule. It makes no sense.
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| 10-14-2013 09:46 AM |
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Machiavelli
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
Barack Obama is the Peyton Manning of the political process. He's just that GOOD!
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
(10-14-2013 09:45 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: Are you trying to say you would be against Ronald Reagan getting a third term? Just what exactly are you guy's getting at with these trolling accusations ? It doesn't make sense. Why would we want to limit ourselves?
Yes I would be against Reagan getting a third term. When you approach a dictatorship, you don't always get the "guy you want" running the show. You must be okay with "W" coming back for a 3rd & 4th term, right?
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Machiavelli
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
Of COURSE!!! May the BEST MAN WIN. Why would you sit Dick Butkus? Why would you force Babe Ruth to retire after 1927? It just doesn't make sense. It really doesn't.
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
(10-14-2013 09:46 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: You don't let Gretzky retire 8 seasons in after scoring 50 goals because of some weak rule. It makes no sense.
But Gretzky could have been cut or traded at any time.
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
(10-14-2013 09:36 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (10-14-2013 09:34 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: You may disagree Little Rock. You have that right. I respect that, but a strong majority of Americans disagree with you especially in an election year. He is a great leader. You don't always have to agree with him.
It's kind of like this.
Get on the bus or get run over by it. I'm paying my toll to ride the Obama Express to happiness and you should too. I think after a time you will see how good he has been for our country. Let him run against the "BEST" the GOP can come up with. You don't let Miguel Caberra retire 8 years in when he's pushing for the triple crownand neither should the good ole US of A with President Obama. You just need to find a slugger for the GOP and let the "BEST MAN WIN"!
Your trolls are weak, predictable and uninteresting.
Believe me, I knew what he was doing.
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Machiavelli
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RE: When you get a leader like Obama we need to think about that 22nd amendment.
But Gretzky could have been cut or traded at any time.
Exactly. in 2016. That's when the American people decide to cut or trade. Good Point SMN.
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