I recently went to a WKU and a MTSU game and though the WKU game was pretty rowdy they just feel like high school football games. I personally like it with the nostalgia and all but some of my buddies were complaining the whole time. Now tbf I did graduate from bowling green HS so I guess that also made it seem more like a HS game. But just the overall atmosphere is small time but with big enthusiasm and I love it. Anyone else get the same feelings at the smaller games on a cool October night? Might as well be friday

I went to Alabama, and am an Alabama football fan but can say that I enjoy Cajun games as much and not because they remind me of high school. Personally, I enjoy the game in what is arguably a purer form.

(10-11-2013 03:30 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I went to Alabama, and am an Alabama football fan but can say that I enjoy Cajun games as much and not because they remind me of high school. Personally, I enjoy the game in what is arguably a purer form.

Id agree with this.

Those are not lower division games.

Beside Rutgers football games, I also attend Monmouth U football games (FCS), which are enjoyable and a lot more affordable. They are played on Saturdays and definitely don't feel like high school games.

The P5 games are high school compared to the NFL. To each his own.

How high school was it when WKU whipped your big blew *** all across Nashville in front of 45k? It's laughable for a UGay fan to talk small time about a school that beat you like a drum for 60 mins. I have been to BGHS several times, and it is nothing compared to Houchens. The Houch may only seat 23k, but it is every bit as loud and big time as CommonDump in Lexington. Don't like it? Don't come back. And BTW, we are i the same division dumb***, ignorant kitten ******.

When UNT played Sun Belt teams at Fouts it did feel small time. Fouts was an old outdated stadium that was crumbling to the ground. It was worse then most high school stadiums.

Before I got to North Texas I had no idea who Troy, ULM, ULL, or Arkansas State were, and those are probably the closest Belt schools to UNT. Not to bash those schools, but it was hard to get excited about watching us play them, when other Texas programs were playing each other and teams every Texas football fan knows about.

Now that North Texas is in C-USA things have changed. Apogee is a great college stadium. It has one of the larger HD video boards in Texas, a wonderful tailgating area, great lighting. It is one of the better stadiums in C-USA and just as nice as some in the P5 conferences.

C-USA is not a lower division. There are many programs in C-USA with great tradition. Most have some great history in one sport or another. Rice has some great seasons in the old Southwest Conference. UTEP won a national title in basketball. North Texas has 4 national titles in golf and over 20 conference titles in football. LA Tech had a great women's basketball program. Great players have come from teams in this conference. Mean Joe Greene. Terry Bradshaw. Chris Johnson.

Having Rice, UTEP, UTSA, and LA Tech in the same division is great for North Texas. I wouldn't be surprised to see the attendance numbers of the C-USA Texas programs dwarf those of the Texas AAC teams within a few seasons. You may need to rethink your concept of the lower division.

End zone seats at Apogee are closer to midfield than many of your prime seats at Fouts. That wasn't the Sun Belt's fault. From 2005 to 2011 you played mostly terrible football, and that wasn't the league's fault either.

I'm curious how the atmosphere has improved at UNT since last year. After two games you are averaging 600 fewer fans per game than you did all last season (other than being more competitive on the field).

Maybe the difference in atmosphere is that last year through two games you had beaten an awful terrible bad FCS team by 28 and lost a high shooting 14-7 game to a team that finished in the Sun Belt second division while this year you won easily over a bad awful terrible FBS and rallied from an 18 point deficit to beat a team everyone in Texas knows (snicker) in Ball State in a dull low scoring 34-27 game.

Better results = better atmosphere. If you want to assign that to the magic of uniform patches so be it.

(10-12-2013 09:28 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  When UNT played Sun Belt teams at Fouts it did feel small time. Fouts was an old outdated stadium that was crumbling to the ground. It was worse then most high school stadiums.

Before I got to North Texas I had no idea who Troy, ULM, ULL, or Arkansas State were, and those are probably the closest Belt schools to UNT. Not to bash those schools, but it was hard to get excited about watching us play them, when other Texas programs were playing each other and teams every Texas football fan knows about.

Now that North Texas is in C-USA things have changed. Apogee is a great college stadium. It has one of the larger HD video boards in Texas, a wonderful tailgating area, great lighting. It is one of the better stadiums in C-USA and just as nice as some in the P5 conferences.

C-USA is not a lower division. There are many programs in C-USA with great tradition. Most have some great history in one sport or another. Rice has some great seasons in the old Southwest Conference. UTEP won a national title in basketball. North Texas has 4 national titles in golf and over 20 conference titles in football. LA Tech had a great women's basketball program. Great players have come from teams in this conference. Mean Joe Greene. Terry Bradshaw. Chris Johnson.

Having Rice, UTEP, UTSA, and LA Tech in the same division is great for North Texas. I wouldn't be surprised to see the attendance numbers of the C-USA Texas programs dwarf those of the Texas AAC teams within a few seasons. You may need to rethink your concept of the lower division.

Guys they have a national championship in golf!

(10-12-2013 10:08 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  End zone seats at Apogee are closer to midfield than many of your prime seats at Fouts. That wasn't the Sun Belt's fault. From 2005 to 2011 you played mostly terrible football, and that wasn't the league's fault either.

I'm curious how the atmosphere has improved at UNT since last year. After two games you are averaging 600 fewer fans per game than you did all last season (other than being more competitive on the field).

Maybe the difference in atmosphere is that last year through two games you had beaten an awful terrible bad FCS team by 28 and lost a high shooting 14-7 game to a team that finished in the Sun Belt second division while this year you won easily over a bad awful terrible FBS and rallied from an 18 point deficit to beat a team everyone in Texas knows (snicker) in Ball State in a dull low scoring 34-27 game.

Better results = better atmosphere. If you want to assign that to the magic of uniform patches so be it.

UNT fans tend to talk out their behinds when it comes to conferences. Example, when UTSA and Texas State were still considering moving to the FBS there were some who wanted the Sun Belt to add them. UNT wanted no part of either of these teams.

There was nothing stopping UNT from scheduling Texas teams on a regular basis besides the fact that Rice and UTEP did not want to be associated with UNT. That's why I laugh about these superiority post because UNT is the fat kid on the Texas team that got put in the game because everyone else is gone.

These are "lower," lower being a comparative term, conference game than say the Pac12 or ACC but that isn't to say they are irrelevant.

Like I said, I enjoy the UL games and much of the Sun Belt because the entire affair has a different feel to it.

BTW, it's kind of funny to see C-USA thumb their nose at the Sun Belt when much of both conferences are equally matched in most ways. It doesn't bode well that C-USA took the 7th best team in the state of Texas, UNT, and then they act like the rest of the conference they left were nobodies.

(10-12-2013 10:48 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  These are "lower," lower being a comparative term, conference game than say the Pac12 or ACC but that isn't to say they are irrelevant.

Like I said, I enjoy the UL games and much of the Sun Belt because the entire affair has a different feel to it.

BTW, it's kind of funny to see C-USA thumb their nose at the Sun Belt when much of both conferences are equally matched in most ways. It doesn't bode well that C-USA took the 7th best team in the state of Texas, UNT, and then they act like the rest of the conference they left were nobodies.

I'm not saying that at all. But, the truth is our fans never got excited about playing a Sun Belt schedule. I didn't say they were bad teams. Arkansas State and ULL have some solid programs. ULM recently had a strong program. The truth is we need to play other Texas teams to grow our program. Playing Rice and UTEP will generate more media and fan interest for UNT. I wasn't a fan of UTSA moving up to FBS, but they are here now, and they are an improving program in a great market. Most of our fans are looking forward to this rivalry too. There is nothing wrong with the Sun Belt, but C-USA with Rice, UTEP, UTSA, and LA Tech just makes more sense for North Texas.

(10-12-2013 10:08 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  End zone seats at Apogee are closer to midfield than many of your prime seats at Fouts. That wasn't the Sun Belt's fault. From 2005 to 2011 you played mostly terrible football, and that wasn't the league's fault either.

I'm curious how the atmosphere has improved at UNT since last year. After two games you are averaging 600 fewer fans per game than you did all last season (other than being more competitive on the field).
Maybe the difference in atmosphere is that last year through two games you had beaten an awful terrible bad FCS team by 28 and lost a high shooting 14-7 game to a team that finished in the Sun Belt second division while this year you won easily over a bad awful terrible FBS and rallied from an 18 point deficit to beat a team everyone in Texas knows (snicker) in Ball State in a dull low scoring 34-27 game.

Better results = better atmosphere. If you want to assign that to the magic of uniform patches so be it.

You have taken everything in my post out of context.

The difference in attendance numbers is a direct result of the temperature for those games. It was 105 at kickoff for the Idaho game and still 103 at half time. The Ball State game was another day around 100 degrees when the game was on T.V. There is no magic in the patch on the uniform. It is about the interest created by playing other Texas programs most of our fans have connections with.

(10-12-2013 02:05 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  How high school was it when WKU whipped your big blew *** all across Nashville in front of 45k? It's laughable for a UGay fan to talk small time about a school that beat you like a drum for 60 mins. I have been to BGHS several times, and it is nothing compared to Houchens. The Houch may only seat 23k, but it is every bit as loud and big time as CommonDump in Lexington. Don't like it? Don't come back. And BTW, we are i the same division dumb***, ignorant kitten ******.

Ease up there big slick. I was a WKU fan long before I went to UK and I like the tops. I do not remember WKU beating UGA though they probably could right now with all our injuries. Also saying houchens compares to commonwealth is just dishonest; even after all the hype with Patreno. BG is just a way cooler miniature lexington imo

(10-11-2013 03:28 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  I recently went to a WKU and a MTSU game and though the WKU game was pretty rowdy they just feel like high school football games. I personally like it with the nostalgia and all but some of my buddies were complaining the whole time. Now tbf I did graduate from bowling green HS so I guess that also made it seem more like a HS game. But just the overall atmosphere is small time but with big enthusiasm and I love it. Anyone else get the same feelings at the smaller games on a cool October night? Might as well be friday

You are a Tool AND a Troll.

SCOREBOARD...BTW, you have a HS Coach.

(10-12-2013 03:10 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(10-12-2013 02:05 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  How high school was it when WKU whipped your big blew *** all across Nashville in front of 45k? It's laughable for a UGay fan to talk small time about a school that beat you like a drum for 60 mins. I have been to BGHS several times, and it is nothing compared to Houchens. The Houch may only seat 23k, but it is every bit as loud and big time as CommonDump in Lexington. Don't like it? Don't come back. And BTW, we are i the same division dumb***, ignorant kitten ******.

Ease up there big slick. I was a WKU fan long before I went to UK and I like the tops. I do not remember WKU beating UGA though they probably could right now with all our injuries. Also saying houchens compares to commonwealth is just dishonest; even after all the hype with Patreno. BG is just a way cooler miniature lexington imo

Yes, we are really missing out on having UAT come in and overtake our stadium, they should have changed the banners on the walls to crimson or just moved the whole affair to Tuscaloosa... UGay is a moniker for UK. Georgia would be UGAy...

You are not a WKU fan. You are an SEC fan. So just go back to your trailer or your momma's basement and find alabama's game so you can brag about how the sec will win another title this January. We don't need your sorry butt at The Houch, so move along.

Why are you so offended?

(10-13-2013 08:37 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  Why are you so offended?

We are sick of anyone saying that we are in a lower division.
WKU is not in a lower division.

If you were talking about going to an FCS game or a Division 2
football game that would be a lower division.

We play all of our sports in Division 1 FBS, The same division that
UGA and UK play their sports.

Your stadiums may have more seats and realize more TV money from
your conference but that's it.

And I was in Nashville , it was big time and loved beating UK for the second year in a row.

(10-12-2013 10:48 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  These are "lower," lower being a comparative term, conference game than say the Pac12 or ACC but that isn't to say they are irrelevant.

Yeah, people know what you meant, but expressing it as "lower division", when they are not just the same division as the Power5 but the same Football Bowl Subdivision as the Power5 is incorrect in any event ... that is, unless the Power5 split out as a division all their own.

And because of politics and the threat of anti-trust laws, if the Power5 splits out as their own division, they are likely to take the Go5 schools with them.