Targeting small businesses for shutdown b/c of "non compliance".

Once again, does anyone really wonder how oppressive regulations hurt businesses?!

http://reason.com/reasontv/2013/09/17/op...war-on-sma

Bet one aspect of this is kick backs and bribes.
Imagine Detroit has evolved into a third world Banana Republic type government
where that is one of the goals of some officials.

(09-18-2013 10:42 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Bet one aspect of this is kick backs and bribes.
Imagine Detroit has evolved into a third world Banana Republic type government
where that is one of the goals of some officials.

And lazy tom loves it.

And one of the owners "They are just after the black people".... Ugg your city is run by liberal democrats and a lot ot them are black but you think this is happening because of racism and not the massive failure of government over regulation and centralized power?

There is an institutional mindset in Detroit that will take generations to change and frankly I don't see it ever changing. It's all about the $$ and how can I get my hands on it (through government).

Way to go, Mayor Bing. Helluva way to bring back Detroit's economy by running small business out of business.

Have to agree with the one business owner - why in h@ll would anybody even try to start a business in that place with all the hurdles to overcome?

(09-18-2013 02:11 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  There is an institutional mindset in Detroit that will take generations to change and frankly I don't see it ever changing. It's all about the $$ and how can I get my hands on it (through government).

Way to go, Mayor Bing. Helluva way to bring back Detroit's economy by running small business out of business.

Have to agree with the one business owner - why in h@ll would anybody even try to start a business in that place with all the hurdles to overcome?

What's sad is that is the case almost all over. And every petty bureaucrat feels entitled to hinder business. Arizona even calls their busines tax "Trasaction Privilege Tax," as though that state is doing business a favor for allowing it even to exist.

This country didn't prosper with that sort of approach.

Detriot, A liberal democrat paradise!

Quote:"It is hard to run a business in Detroit. It's taken me three years to get approval for an outside patio," says Larry Mongo, who runs Cafe D'Mongo's Speakeasy a successful bar and restaurant in downtown Detroit.

Insane.

Liberals, the friend of the little guy.

I don't care what happens to Detroit. They need to live with the results of decades of foolishness.

I just don't want to see them get $1 of federal money.

Ask not what we can do to save Detroit,
but what Detroit can do for our personal pockets.

(09-18-2013 07:55 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Targeting small businesses for shutdown b/c of "non compliance".

Once again, does anyone really wonder how oppressive regulations hurt businesses?!

http://reason.com/reasontv/2013/09/17/op...war-on-sma

I thought Michigan was being run by a republican governor?

(09-18-2013 11:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:55 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Targeting small businesses for shutdown b/c of "non compliance".

Once again, does anyone really wonder how oppressive regulations hurt businesses?!

http://reason.com/reasontv/2013/09/17/op...war-on-sma

I thought Michigan was being run by a republican governor?

I believe that's the City of Detroit, with a democrat mayor, not the State of Michigan, that's doing that.

(09-18-2013 11:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 11:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:55 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Targeting small businesses for shutdown b/c of "non compliance".

Once again, does anyone really wonder how oppressive regulations hurt businesses?!

http://reason.com/reasontv/2013/09/17/op...war-on-sma

I thought Michigan was being run by a republican governor?

I believe that's the City of Detroit, with a democrat mayor, not the State of Michigan, that's doing that.

I see. It was my understanding that the governor was overseeing cities that could not make ends meet and appointing someone to take over the city. I seem to remember that this was happening in other areas of the state.

(09-18-2013 11:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:55 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Targeting small businesses for shutdown b/c of "non compliance".

Once again, does anyone really wonder how oppressive regulations hurt businesses?!

http://reason.com/reasontv/2013/09/17/op...war-on-sma

I thought Michigan was being run by a republican governor?

And the US is run by a democratic president... What does that have to do with the Detroit city police?

(09-18-2013 07:55 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Targeting small businesses for shutdown b/c of "non compliance".

Once again, does anyone really wonder how oppressive regulations hurt businesses?!

http://reason.com/reasontv/2013/09/17/op...war-on-sma

small businesses get in the way of creating the govt entitlement state.

(09-18-2013 11:54 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 11:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 11:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:55 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Targeting small businesses for shutdown b/c of "non compliance".

Once again, does anyone really wonder how oppressive regulations hurt businesses?!

http://reason.com/reasontv/2013/09/17/op...war-on-sma

I thought Michigan was being run by a republican governor?

I believe that's the City of Detroit, with a democrat mayor, not the State of Michigan, that's doing that.

I see. It was my understanding that the governor was overseeing cities that could not make ends meet and appointing someone to take over the city. I seem to remember that this was happening in other areas of the state.

Ah, a non sequitur in your attempt to defend the indefensible.

(09-19-2013 12:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:55 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Targeting small businesses for shutdown b/c of "non compliance".

Once again, does anyone really wonder how oppressive regulations hurt businesses?!

http://reason.com/reasontv/2013/09/17/op...war-on-sma

small businesses get in the way of creating the govt entitlement state.

true dat

The funny thing about the city's official press release is the example of the type of businesses they were closing down:

Quote:An example of an illegal business is an appliance resale shop operating in an area that is zoned for retail.

Okay...if you read the zoning laws they probably state that resale shops, pawn shops, etc. have to be in a light industrial zone. I can also see that, ideally, you don't want your low-end retail (such as resale and pawn shops) scaring off customers for your retail. However, for a press release wouldn't you choose a more egregious violation? I mean, saying that you are going to shut down a business for selling used instead of new dish washers doesn't really make me want to support you (it kind-of makes you look petty, actually). Tell me about the businesses that use heavy machinery on the second story of a building that wasn't designed to support the weight, instead!

(09-21-2013 11:48 AM)rice09 Wrote:  The funny thing about the city's official press release is the example of the type of businesses they were closing down:

Quote:An example of an illegal business is an appliance resale shop operating in an area that is zoned for retail.

Okay...if you read the zoning laws they probably state that resale shops, pawn shops, etc. have to be in a light industrial zone. I can also see that, ideally, you don't want your low-end retail (such as resale and pawn shops) scaring off customers for your retail. However, for a press release wouldn't you choose a more egregious violation? I mean, saying that you are going to shut down a business for selling used instead of new dish washers doesn't really make me want to support you (it kind-of makes you look petty, actually). Tell me about the businesses that use heavy machinery on the second story of a building that wasn't designed to support the weight, instead!

I agree. If they wanted to look like they were improving the city, they should have gone after the big fish. Those are news stories that they can spin. But then again, there might not be any big fish left, because they had to resort to the petty stuff.

(09-21-2013 11:54 AM)CameramanJ Wrote:  

(09-21-2013 11:48 AM)rice09 Wrote:  The funny thing about the city's official press release is the example of the type of businesses they were closing down:

Quote:An example of an illegal business is an appliance resale shop operating in an area that is zoned for retail.

Okay...if you read the zoning laws they probably state that resale shops, pawn shops, etc. have to be in a light industrial zone. I can also see that, ideally, you don't want your low-end retail (such as resale and pawn shops) scaring off customers for your retail. However, for a press release wouldn't you choose a more egregious violation? I mean, saying that you are going to shut down a business for selling used instead of new dish washers doesn't really make me want to support you (it kind-of makes you look petty, actually). Tell me about the businesses that use heavy machinery on the second story of a building that wasn't designed to support the weight, instead!

I agree. If they wanted to look like they were improving the city, they should have gone after the big fish. Those are news stories that they can spin. But then again, there might not be any big fish left, because they had to resort to the petty stuff.

Dy-no-mite as JJ would have told us on "Good Times" TV program