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Do Liberals Really Want a 2nd Civil War?
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Quote:....Wealthy filmmaker Michael Moore called for revolution, as did the Rev. Jesse Jackson. Appearing on MSNBC's Rachel Maddow program, Moore said:

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I just want to say, anybody who lives within driving distance of Madison, Wisc., right now should make their way to the capital. I would love to see thousands of people there right now, there in that capital building, in the rotunda, out on the lawn, whatever it takes. I mean, really, this is really, this is war. This is a class war that's been leveled against the working people of this country and at some point people are going to just have to stand up and say, non-violently, this is enough. We're not taking it anymore.”

In Feb, Democratic Congressman Mike Capuano (D-MA) raised the stakes when he encouraged unions to "get a little bloody":

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“I’m proud to be here with people who understand that it’s more than just sending an email to get you going. Every once and awhile you need to get out on the streets and get a little bloody when necessary,” Rep. Mike Capuano (D-Ma.) told a crowd in Boston on Tuesday rallying in solidarity for Wisconsin union members.”

In March, a Wisconsin Democrat issued a profanity laced death threat against a female GOP colleague on the floor of the Wisconsin Assembly.

Unions took their act on the road in an attempt to spread violence and discontent across the country. The result was predictable - violence was visited on average Americans by union thugs standing "in solidarity" with the protesters in Wisconsin.

Even the Vice Chairman of the Communist Party USA was surprised at the level of radicalization shown by Wisconsin Democrats and their union allies.

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“I have to tell you that in every one of the situations that I’ve been in in Madison and Indianapolis, there is a radicalization going on among Democratic legislators that I‘ve never seen in my lifetime and I don’t think any of us have,” said Scott Marshall, Vice Chairman of the Communist Party USA.”

The violence was not contained to America's streets. Unhinged liberals have used the social networking site Twitter to call for the death of Sarah Palin, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, and businessman Donald Trump.

Does the far left really want a violent revolution - a second civil war - in America?

Consider their own words.

In November 2010, a Socialist conference in New York advocated violence against members of the Tea Party:

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In times of growth historically the Democrats were the party that wanted to at least mildly redistribute a little bit of wealth. They were willing to finance a few social programs, make a few concessions in the interest of preserving social peace and social stability. But now when they don't feel like that money is available for them to distribute, they don't do anything. And I think that, you know, we all want to raise people's consciousness but we also want to fight people, right? So I think it's like both things. And, you know, we want to, we want to fight people who are on the -- who have signed up on the other side of the barricade who are fighting us, we have to fight them. This is -- we're a militant organization when it comes to the fight against gay bigotry, the fights against racism and sexism. The labor movement has this old saying, and I don't know if you want to take it -- is if you can't open their minds, open their heads.”

Ed Morrissey of the conservative blog Hot Air posted an excerpt from a book by left wing cartoonist Ted Rall calling for open revolution and violence in the streets:

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We are here because the U.S. is going to end soon. There’s going to be an intense, violent, probably haphazard struggle for control. It’s going to come down to us versus them. The question is: What are you going to do about it?…
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Christian fundamentalists, the millennial end-of-theworlders obsessed with the Left Behind series about the End Times, neo-Nazi racists, rural black-helicopter Michigan Militia types cut from the same inbred cloth as Timothy McVeigh, allied with “mainstream” gun nuts and right-wing Republicans, have been planning, preparing, and praying for the destruction of the “Godless,” “secular” United States for decades. In the past, they formed groups like the John Birch Society and the Aryan Nations. Now the hard Right has a postmodern, decentralized non-organization organization called the Tea Party.
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Right-wing organizational names change, but they amount to the same thing: the reactionary sociopolitical force—the sole force—poised to fill the vacuum when collapse occurs. The scenario outlined by Margaret Atwood’s prescient novel The Handmaid’s Tale—rednecks in the trenches, hard military men running things, minorities and liberals taken away and massacred, setting the stage for an even more extreme form of laissez-faire corporate capitalism than we’re suffering under today—is a fair guess of how a post-U.S. scenario will play out unless we prepare to turn it in another direction…
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A war is coming. At stake: our lives, the planet, freedom, living. The government, the corporations, and the extreme right are prepared to coalesce into an Axis of Evil. Are you going to fight back? Will you do whatever it takes, including taking up arms?”

Last November, Rall discussed his book with MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan. Ratigan opened the segment by asking:

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"Are things in our country so bad that it might actually be time for a revolution?" Ratigan asked. "The answer obviously is yes," he added, and "the only question is how to do it."”

In April, the radical left wing group PSL called for revolution, and suggested recruiting children to further their cause.

One thing has become increasingly clear - the radical left is prone to violence, and they will not stop until they have achieved their goal - a socialist America ruled by Marxist thugs.

We live in a dream world if we think it cannot happen here.

Miller notes:

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I assure you that not every black person in America subscribes to their frenzied threats of another “civil war” driven by race and class. All Americans of good will must come together and stand against intimidation, threats and violence in this political season, wherever and against whomever they may occur.
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Gabby Giffords is awfully quiet about all of these comments.
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Meh, a civil war now would be political. Republicans would easily win, surely the mentals understand this.
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Good thing they didn't use a bulls-eye in any of those comments or interviews. That's very dangerous speech.
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Such angry, violent rhetoric. Clearly the next nut to go off will be influenced by it.

When the communist calls you radical...03-lol
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The labor movement has this old saying, and I don't know if you want to take it -- is if you can't open their minds, open their heads.

It's things like this that make radicals on both sides. People that would normally think the late Wisconsin Senator Joseph McCarthy as an extreme radical may welcome a new one considering the radicalism of the Left. Just what we need to put radicals, like Tail Gunner Joe, into office. Which will be countered by more radicals on the Left. So instead of talking about problems, and negotiating, they will be screaming at each other even more.
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(09-16-2013 05:19 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  The labor movement has this old saying, and I don't know if you want to take it -- is if you can't open their minds, open their heads.

It's things like this that make radicals on both sides. People that would normally think the late Wisconsin Senator Joseph McCarthy as an extreme radical may welcome a new one considering the radicalism of the Left. Just what we need to put radicals, like Tail Gunner Joe, into office. Which will be countered by more radicals on the Left. So instead of talking about problems, and negotiating, they will be screaming at each other even more.

Good point. The radicalism of one side drives the other toward more radical leaders, which is in turn reflected in still more radical leaders for the first side. It's a spiral that does not have a happy ending. It is also, unfortunately, a spiral upon which we are well embarked. On both sides.
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Civil war? The way I see it is we can learn something fro Syria and just let the thugs in NYC, Detroit, Chicago, LA, etc kill each other and then we conservatives can come in and mop up what's left.
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(09-16-2013 06:04 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Civil war? The way I see it is we can learn something fro Syria and just let the thugs in NYC, Detroit, Chicago, LA, etc kill each other and then we conservatives can come in and mop up what's left.

Same idea I have had for years concerning the "War on Drugs" which has costs us untold money and lives. Let the people use or have whatever drugs they want. Even pay for them if they have to. Less break in's, lot less people in jail costing us billions, fewer gangs making money on them, less activity across the borders from drugs - in fact none, Mexican gangs would wither away also. Test pilots before flights, surgeons before surgery, etc.
People that have no self control would probably die, if they were not smart enough to get treatment for their addictions. Darwin would be proud.
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lol.

That's all I can say. Lol
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(09-16-2013 06:41 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  lol.

That's all I can say. Lol

Towards the lunatics quoted in the OP or the people calling them insane?
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I've said it a thousand times. This was the true agenda with the Obama Admin. He is not a democrat or a liberal. He is an enemy of our country. The goal was to divide and destroy. It's coming along as planned.
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(09-16-2013 07:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I've said it a thousand times. This was the true agenda with the Obama Admin. He is not a democrat or a liberal. He is an enemy of our country. The goal was to divide and destroy. It's coming along as planned.

Lol. That's the goal of the wealthy elite! Not Obama! All the puppets you elect will have the same goal.
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(09-16-2013 07:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I've said it a thousand times. This was the true agenda with the Obama Admin. He is not a democrat or a liberal. He is an enemy of our country. The goal was to divide and destroy. It's coming along as planned.

Lol. That's the goal of the wealthy elite! Not Obama! All the puppets you elect will have the same goal.

No sir. The wealthy elite have afforded you your way of life & the very computer you type on.
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(09-16-2013 07:49 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I've said it a thousand times. This was the true agenda with the Obama Admin. He is not a democrat or a liberal. He is an enemy of our country. The goal was to divide and destroy. It's coming along as planned.

Lol. That's the goal of the wealthy elite! Not Obama! All the puppets you elect will have the same goal.

No sir. The wealthy elite have afforded you your way of life & the very computer you type on.

Ba-a-a-aa-a-a-aa-h. Bleat on, little sheep.
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(09-16-2013 07:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I've said it a thousand times. This was the true agenda with the Obama Admin. He is not a democrat or a liberal. He is an enemy of our country. The goal was to divide and destroy. It's coming along as planned.

Lol. That's the goal of the wealthy elite! Not Obama! All the puppets you elect will have the same goal.

What good is being wealthy if there are no poor people? The poorest wealthy person would be the next welfare queen.
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(09-16-2013 07:56 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:49 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I've said it a thousand times. This was the true agenda with the Obama Admin. He is not a democrat or a liberal. He is an enemy of our country. The goal was to divide and destroy. It's coming along as planned.

Lol. That's the goal of the wealthy elite! Not Obama! All the puppets you elect will have the same goal.

No sir. The wealthy elite have afforded you your way of life & the very computer you type on.

Ba-a-a-aa-a-a-aa-h. Bleat on, little sheep.

What would you do without rich people? What would you do without the opportunity to make yourself rich?
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(09-16-2013 08:05 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:56 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:49 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I've said it a thousand times. This was the true agenda with the Obama Admin. He is not a democrat or a liberal. He is an enemy of our country. The goal was to divide and destroy. It's coming along as planned.

Lol. That's the goal of the wealthy elite! Not Obama! All the puppets you elect will have the same goal.

No sir. The wealthy elite have afforded you your way of life & the very computer you type on.

Ba-a-a-aa-a-a-aa-h. Bleat on, little sheep.

What would you do without rich people? What would you do without the opportunity to make yourself rich?

Who would they tax?
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(09-16-2013 08:08 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 08:05 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:56 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:49 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Lol. That's the goal of the wealthy elite! Not Obama! All the puppets you elect will have the same goal.

No sir. The wealthy elite have afforded you your way of life & the very computer you type on.

Ba-a-a-aa-a-a-aa-h. Bleat on, little sheep.

What would you do without rich people? What would you do without the opportunity to make yourself rich?

Who would they tax?

Bingo.
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(09-16-2013 07:46 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 07:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I've said it a thousand times. This was the true agenda with the Obama Admin. He is not a democrat or a liberal. He is an enemy of our country. The goal was to divide and destroy. It's coming along as planned.

Lol. That's the goal of the wealthy elite! Not Obama! All the puppets you elect will have the same goal.

It's not really the wealthy elite. Usually they are just happy putting their name on hospitals, universities, and philanthropy. We very rarely elect truly wealthy people.

There's a special category of people that we elect and those they truly serve. I just don't quite know what to call them.
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