http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...e/2752205/


He just won his 200th game yesterday. He is 200-68-2 in his coaching career.

He has won big everywhere he has coached.

Kelly is 29-11 at ND.

ND has won 21 of its last 23 regular season games.

ND is 25-4 overall in its last 29 games. ND is 13-1 in its last 14 games.

Those are all solid numbers.

This is Kelly's fourth season at ND. These are his guys, he keeps recruiting well. 10 true freshmen played yesterday.

I think that ND will regress a bit this season with QB Everett Golson's academic suspension but should be very good going forward.

Kelly is no Charlie Weis. I think that ND made a smart move extending Kelly's contract through 2017.

It's taken ND a long time to find a coach. The Irish have had to live off of hype for a long time.

There was a ten win (2006) and a few nine win (1998, 2000, 2002, 2005) seasons mixed in there between Holtz and Kelly, but ND did make three (Davie, Willingham, Weis) bad/mediocre coaching hires.

(09-01-2013 01:10 PM)XLance Wrote:  It's taken ND a long time to find a coach. The Irish have had to live off of hype for a long time.

Te Irish aren't the only ones living off hype.

Michigan hasn't won an outright national championship in a lot longer than Notre Dame has. It's been a longer time than Penn State has won a NC than Notre Dame has.

Come on. Be serious. At least Notre Dame was in the chaionship game last year.

(09-01-2013 01:26 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 01:10 PM)XLance Wrote:  It's taken ND a long time to find a coach. The Irish have had to live off of hype for a long time.

Te Irish aren't the only ones living off hype.

Michigan hasn't won an outright national championship in a lot longer than Notre Dame has. It's been a longer time than Penn State has won a NC than Notre Dame has.

Come on. Be serious. At least Notre Dame was in the chaionship game last year.

I wouldn't actually call ND in the championship game last year.
Well I guess maybe they were in the game at the kick off. After that not so much.

You would then also agree that LSU wasn't "in the championship game" the year before?

Alabama shut the Tigers out and won by three touchdowns. LSU never crossed the 50 yard line.

Alabama beat ND by 28 and LSU by 21.

At least ND was able to cross midfield a few times and scored two TD's.

I guess LSU's championship appearance "didn't count" either.

(09-01-2013 12:15 PM)TerryD Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...e/2752205/


He just won his 200th game yesterday. He is 200-68-2 in his coaching career.

He has won big everywhere he has coached.

Kelly is 29-11 at ND.

ND has won 21 of its last 23 regular season games.

ND is 25-4 overall in its last 29 games. ND is 13-1 in its last 14 games.

Those are all solid numbers.

This is Kelly's fourth season at ND. These are his guys, he keeps recruiting well. 10 true freshmen played yesterday.

I think that ND will regress a bit this season with QB Everett Golson's academic suspension but should be very good going forward.

Kelly is no Charlie Weis. I think that ND made a smart move extending Kelly's contract through 2017.

Good signing. I loved it when Kelly was at Cincinnati (34-6). You could tell the guy was special.

He has said ND was his dream job since he was a kid. I hope you guys can hang on to him (I wonder about him wanting to try the NFL).

(09-01-2013 04:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  You would then also agree that LSU wasn't "in the championship game" the year before?

Alabama shut the Tigers out and won by three touchdowns. LSU never crossed the 50 yard line.

Alabama beat ND by 28 and LSU by 21.

At least ND was able to cross midfield a few times and scored two TD's.

I guess LSU's championship appearance "didn't count" either.

Only the winner matters. And yes LSU didn't show up either. But they can at least say they beat Bama in the regular season that year.

(09-01-2013 05:48 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 04:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  You would then also agree that LSU wasn't "in the championship game" the year before?

Alabama shut the Tigers out and won by three touchdowns. LSU never crossed the 50 yard line.

Alabama beat ND by 28 and LSU by 21.

At least ND was able to cross midfield a few times and scored two TD's.

I guess LSU's championship appearance "didn't count" either.

Only the winner matters. And yes LSU didn't show up either. But they can at least say they beat Bama in the regular season that year.

Now you're being just plain silly. If "only the winner matters" then every other team in the country should fold up their tents and do home. Other than Alabama, no one was the winner more often than Notre Dame.

It sounds like you have issues.

Notre dame needs a winning coach right now and Kelly is that coach to do it. They may not win the NC because of their schedule, but Kelly will always make them winners. With the playoffs looming, that is important. Good move.

(09-01-2013 06:22 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 05:48 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 04:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  You would then also agree that LSU wasn't "in the championship game" the year before?

Alabama shut the Tigers out and won by three touchdowns. LSU never crossed the 50 yard line.

Alabama beat ND by 28 and LSU by 21.

At least ND was able to cross midfield a few times and scored two TD's.

I guess LSU's championship appearance "didn't count" either.

Only the winner matters. And yes LSU didn't show up either. But they can at least say they beat Bama in the regular season that year.

Now you're being just plain silly. If "only the winner matters" then every other team in the country should fold up their tents and do home. Other than Alabama, no one was the winner more often than Notre Dame.

It sounds like you have issues.

So when is ND going to start selling National Championship Runner-up t-shirts? Only the winner really matters.

I love BK and always will. He took UC football to a level nobody would have believed prior. Sure he's a horses arse but I will always root for him.

(09-01-2013 08:26 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 06:22 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 05:48 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 04:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  You would then also agree that LSU wasn't "in the championship game" the year before?

Alabama shut the Tigers out and won by three touchdowns. LSU never crossed the 50 yard line.

Alabama beat ND by 28 and LSU by 21.

At least ND was able to cross midfield a few times and scored two TD's.

I guess LSU's championship appearance "didn't count" either.

Only the winner matters. And yes LSU didn't show up either. But they can at least say they beat Bama in the regular season that year.

Now you're being just plain silly. If "only the winner matters" then every other team in the country should fold up their tents and do home. Other than Alabama, no one was the winner more often than Notre Dame.

It sounds like you have issues.

So when is ND going to start selling National Championship Runner-up t-shirts? Only the winner really matters.

I think that they have them at Hammes Bookstore on campus. Check online if you want to buy some.

I see Kelly as going to the NFL soon. Not necessarily for big money because I think he is making NFL money at Notre Dame. I look for him to go to an east coast NFL team sometime within the next three years. He's from Mass.

-I agree Bearcats #1. Many in Cincinnati feel that way about Kelly. I honestly think he would have had a better chance at winning a title in Cincinnati than in Notre Dame due to admission requirements at ND. That's bogging him down at this time.

(09-01-2013 10:22 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 08:26 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 06:22 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 05:48 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 04:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  You would then also agree that LSU wasn't "in the championship game" the year before?

Alabama shut the Tigers out and won by three touchdowns. LSU never crossed the 50 yard line.

Alabama beat ND by 28 and LSU by 21.

At least ND was able to cross midfield a few times and scored two TD's.

I guess LSU's championship appearance "didn't count" either.

Only the winner matters. And yes LSU didn't show up either. But they can at least say they beat Bama in the regular season that year.

Now you're being just plain silly. If "only the winner matters" then every other team in the country should fold up their tents and do home. Other than Alabama, no one was the winner more often than Notre Dame.

It sounds like you have issues.

So when is ND going to start selling National Championship Runner-up t-shirts? Only the winner really matters.

I think that they have them at Hammes Bookstore on campus. Check online if you want to buy some.

Guess Walmart never offered the ND "Runner-up"/"Second Place
shirts" so I suppose most of ND fans weren't aware they were for sale.

If there really are "runner-up" tee shirts, those rank right up there with the Final 5 tees that XU fans wear...

(09-02-2013 10:08 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 10:22 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 08:26 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 06:22 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 05:48 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  Only the winner matters. And yes LSU didn't show up either. But they can at least say they beat Bama in the regular season that year.

Now you're being just plain silly. If "only the winner matters" then every other team in the country should fold up their tents and do home. Other than Alabama, no one was the winner more often than Notre Dame.

It sounds like you have issues.

So when is ND going to start selling National Championship Runner-up t-shirts? Only the winner really matters.

I think that they have them at Hammes Bookstore on campus. Check online if you want to buy some.

Guess Walmart never offered the ND "Runner-up"/"Second Place
shirts" so I suppose most of ND fans weren't aware they were for sale.

If there really are "runner-up" tee shirts, those rank right up there with the Final 5 tees that XU fans wear...

So, you're acknowledging that a Final Four matters in basketball, but dissing a football team for getting to the Final Two? Amazing logic.

FINAL 4 does matter because a team actually had to WIN their entire bracket of the tourney.
Each team that wins at the Elite 8 to advance to the FINAL 4 gets CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS for making it to the FINAL 4 because they WON their bracket. There are no rings for the team that is a FINAL 4 runner up.

XU created their own FINAL 5 shirt... (FINAL 5 not Final 4) They contrived FINAL 5 due to XU being the last team bounced out of the Elite 8 since they had the latest time slot. So XU made a shirt saying they were in the FINAL 5. There is no FINAL 5, know? The farthest XU won was the Elite 8. Its lame to celebrate the FINAL 5 and fake to boot.

Did ND get National Championship Second Place rings?

(09-02-2013 10:37 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  FINAL 4 does matter because a team actually had to WIN their entire bracket of the tourney.
Each team that wins at the Elite 8 to advance to the FINAL 4 gets CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS for making it to the FINAL 4 because they WON their bracket. There are no rings for the team that is a FINAL 4 runner up.

XU created their own FINAL 5 shirt... (FINAL 5 not Final 4) They contrived FINAL 5 due to XU being the last team bounced out of the Elite 8 since they had the latest time slot. So XU made a shirt saying they were in the FINAL 5. There is no FINAL 5, know? The farthest XU won was the Elite 8. Its lame to celebrate the FINAL 5 and fake to boot.

Did ND get National Championship Second Place rings?

I agree that the Final Four matters. And it's not because anyone gets a T-shirts.

But it's simply asinine to claim that the Final 2 doesn't matter in college football. it's not Notre Dame's fault that college football has such a F'd up championship system. A whole slew of college football schools spent the off season bragging about their team winning the Beef Jerky Bowl or whatever, but Notre Dame is supposed to apologize because it lost to the best team in the country in the last game of the season? Gee whiz, they were national runner up. Of course that's something to celebrate. Didn't win anything? They had an undefeated regular season for goodness sakes!

I doubt that you would have bothered to post anything if it wasn't Notre Dame.

And what Xavier did with T-shirts is irrelevant to Notre Dame. But since we're on it, do you go around spoiling everyone else's fun as your mission in life? If Xavier wants to celebrate a run to thenElite 8, what's wrong with that? It was a big deal for them. Not a big deal if you're Louisville, North Carolina, Duke, or UConn, but a big deal if you're Xavier. Why rain on their parade. I can tell you that it once was a big deal for UConn. They wrote books about it. Made TV specials about it. Called it the Dream Season. Let Xavier call it whatever they want.

The rest of the country would agree that based on the current system, ND earned the right to be in the game
but they would also agree that after the kickoff ND had no business on the same field as BAMA. Most college football fans who'd watched both teams knew that well before the kickoff. ND's performance in the title game was a laughing stock. Teo's off the field drama just added to the comedy.

BTW If ND prints up the Runner Up shirts do they include the score on the t-shirt? BWAAAAAHHHHHH.
The school, student and alums can celebrate it for the next century if they want.
(This assumes you even went to ND and aren't a Walmart fan.)
42-14! We are #2!

(09-02-2013 11:32 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  The rest of the country would agree that based on the current system, ND earned the right to be in the game
but they would also agree that after the kickoff ND had no business on the same field as BAMA. Most college football fans who'd watched both teams knew that well before the kickoff. ND's performance in the title game was a laughing stock. Teo's off the field drama just added to the comedy.

BTW If ND prints up the Runner Up shirts do they include the score on the t-shirt? BWAAAAAHHHHHH.
The school, student and alums can celebrate it for the next century if they want.
(This assumes you even went to ND and aren't a Walmart fan.)
42-14! We are #2!

You have a pretty distorted view of college sports if you think that one bad game defines a season. Super Bowl teams get blown out in the championship game all the time and their fans still celebrate. and they are pros. These are just college kids.

Very few teams outside the SEC belonged on the same field as Alabama last season. Certainly no disgrace to get blown out by that team.

Frankly you come off as nothing but a Notre Dame hater. Find something to cheer for instead of someone to root against.