after throwing their hissy fit yesterday?

Of course they didn't. Another reason against legal weed. Stoned fast food workers think they should make $15 dollars an hour?

(08-30-2013 11:32 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Of course they didn't. Another reason against legal weed. Stoned fast food workers think they should make $15 dollars an hour?

Non Sequitur much?

Pretty sure there were few fast food workers who were protesting. Most were union stooges who called in sick to their jobs, so they could make the evening news.

(08-30-2013 12:07 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 11:32 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Of course they didn't. Another reason against legal weed. Stoned fast food workers think they should make $15 dollars an hour?

Non Sequitur much?

It's called sarcastic, dry humor.

As for the fast food workers: Just another example of how we are becoming an entitlement society. It's becoming fashionable for people to demand compensation without doing anything to better themselves or help advance society.

Let's pay fast food workers the same rate of pay our teachers make. Why even seek a teaching degree when you can make the same wage working at Arby's.

(08-30-2013 11:32 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Of course they didn't. Another reason against legal weed. Stoned fast food workers think they should make $15 dollars an hour?

Who are you to decide what they should make? Shouldn't they make as much as the proprietor of the business is willing to pay? And if they aren't willing to work for what the business is willing to pay don't they have the right to not to work for them?

(08-30-2013 12:16 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 11:32 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Of course they didn't. Another reason against legal weed. Stoned fast food workers think they should make $15 dollars an hour?

Who are you to decide what they should make? Shouldn't they make as much as the proprietor of the business is willing to pay? And if they aren't willing to work for what the business is willing to pay don't they have the right to not to work for them?

Who are they to decide what rate of pay the proprietor sets for any given position? If the company wants to pay 15 dollars an hour, the all the power to them. But they aren't going to do that. Instead of another futile display of public protest and employee disobedience, these workers must gain new skills and education to gain more wealth.

(08-30-2013 12:16 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 11:32 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Of course they didn't. Another reason against legal weed. Stoned fast food workers think they should make $15 dollars an hour?

Who are you to decide what they should make? Shouldn't they make as much as the proprietor of the business is willing to pay? And if they aren't willing to work for what the business is willing to pay don't they have the right to not to work for them?

hahaha. you really have no idea what they were protesting for do you? These Union school teachers still on break weren't out there working with the proprietors to talk about a raise or a little better compensation for the burger flippers.

They were demanding the Federal Goverment mandate that raise through the minimum wage, IOW's pay up or we put you out of business, to 15 bucks and hour! For filling a coke and providing ketchup packs. Are we really striving to make fast food jobs a viable career? That's what we've been reduced to in zerO's new economy?

Nope. you're damn right the employee has every right to go into the office and say "boss, I need to make more money". Boss can say "fine, here's more hours, or here's a bump in pay". But it sure as hell won't be DOUBLE the current wage. So the employee then has a choice, doesn't he? Take the extra .25 cents an hour or find another job.

That scenario has absolutely nothing do with that charade of yesterday.

(08-30-2013 12:16 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 11:32 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Of course they didn't. Another reason against legal weed. Stoned fast food workers think they should make $15 dollars an hour?

Who are you to decide what they should make? Shouldn't they make as much as the proprietor of the business is willing to pay? And if they aren't willing to work for what the business is willing to pay don't they have the right to not to work for them?

Besides total irrelevancy.

More proof the Occupy movement was a success. Our country is now saturated with the exact opposite sentiment we were founded on.

(08-30-2013 01:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  More proof the Occupy movement was a success. Our country is now saturated with the exact opposite sentiment we were founded on.

that's a good point. Occupy Stupid Street and these clowns, basically all the same people or cut from the same cloth. Grifters and leeches.

(08-30-2013 01:09 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 01:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  More proof the Occupy movement was a success. Our country is now saturated with the exact opposite sentiment we were founded on.

that's a good point. Occupy Stupid Street and these clowns, basically all the same people or cut from the same cloth. Grifters and leeches.

Occupy was part of a bigger movement that has been playing in the background for some time. They are the same people. These fast food strikes are part of the same agenda.

We are focused on everything BUT instilling good work ethic and values into American society - and that is not by accident. The kool aid is being poured and more people pick up a cup each day.

It never ceases to amaze me how they call Democrats arrogant etc. Yet, these Reichwingers are EXTREMELY arrogant.

Btw, I am quite sure that the point of saying $15 is to start negotiations. The workers know they aren't going to get $15 but maybe $10 or so after the negotiations. This is how you negotiate, start high and come to the middle.

(08-30-2013 12:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 12:16 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 11:32 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Of course they didn't. Another reason against legal weed. Stoned fast food workers think they should make $15 dollars an hour?

Who are you to decide what they should make? Shouldn't they make as much as the proprietor of the business is willing to pay? And if they aren't willing to work for what the business is willing to pay don't they have the right to not to work for them?

hahaha. you really have no idea what they were protesting for do you? These Union school teachers still on break weren't out there working with the proprietors to talk about a raise or a little better compensation for the burger flippers.

They were demanding the Federal Goverment mandate that raise through the minimum wage, IOW's pay up or we put you out of business, to 15 bucks and hour! For filling a coke and providing ketchup packs. Are we really striving to make fast food jobs a viable career? That's what we've been reduced to in zerO's new economy?

Nope. you're damn right the employee has every right to go into the office and say "boss, I need to make more money". Boss can say "fine, here's more hours, or here's a bump in pay". But it sure as hell won't be DOUBLE the current wage. So the employee then has a choice, doesn't he? Take the extra .25 cents an hour or find another job.

That scenario has absolutely nothing do with that charade of yesterday.

Many teacher union contracts are tied to the minimum wage, minimum wage goes up and so do their salaries.

(08-30-2013 01:19 PM)RobertN Wrote:  It never ceases to amaze me how they call Democrats arrogant etc. Yet, these Reichwingers are EXTREMELY arrogant.

Btw, I am quite sure that the point of saying $15 is to start negotiations. The workers know they aren't going to get $15 but maybe $10 or so after the negotiations. This is how you negotiate, start high and come to the middle.

Negotiate with WHOM?!? I just covered this Robs, please try to keep up between making th office coffee and sharpening the pencil sets, okay?
They weren't asking for a meeting with the business owners to discuss a well deserved raise or anything of the sort. They we demanding the Federal Government mandate that ridiculousness as the new minimum wage.

Are you ready to pay 6 bucks or more for that cheeseburger? 2.50 for the fries? I'd wager no and neither would I. So guess what geniuses, you just put yourself and all the other unskilled, low ceiling workers OUT of work.

this doesn't simply apply to the burger flippers, this would also be that kid with a mental disability that bags groceries or collect carts. You think someone like him is going to warrant that kind of a wage for something that is basically a feel good, throw away job that they do for community outreach?

Congratulations, morons. You just put that poor kid OUT of a job and OUT of the workforce entirely.

Sometimes you leftist progs need to think through things a bit more than "does it make me feel good"? smdh.

(08-30-2013 01:21 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 12:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 12:16 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 11:32 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Of course they didn't. Another reason against legal weed. Stoned fast food workers think they should make $15 dollars an hour?

Who are you to decide what they should make? Shouldn't they make as much as the proprietor of the business is willing to pay? And if they aren't willing to work for what the business is willing to pay don't they have the right to not to work for them?

hahaha. you really have no idea what they were protesting for do you? These Union school teachers still on break weren't out there working with the proprietors to talk about a raise or a little better compensation for the burger flippers.

They were demanding the Federal Goverment mandate that raise through the minimum wage, IOW's pay up or we put you out of business, to 15 bucks and hour! For filling a coke and providing ketchup packs. Are we really striving to make fast food jobs a viable career? That's what we've been reduced to in zerO's new economy?

Nope. you're damn right the employee has every right to go into the office and say "boss, I need to make more money". Boss can say "fine, here's more hours, or here's a bump in pay". But it sure as hell won't be DOUBLE the current wage. So the employee then has a choice, doesn't he? Take the extra .25 cents an hour or find another job.

That scenario has absolutely nothing do with that charade of yesterday.

Many teacher union contracts are tied to the minimum wage, minimum wage goes up and so do their salaries.

Of course. Hence the connection.

(08-30-2013 12:16 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 11:32 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Of course they didn't. Another reason against legal weed. Stoned fast food workers think they should make $15 dollars an hour?

Who are you to decide what they should make?

Umm the consumers...

Quote:Shouldn't they make as much as the proprietor of the business is willing to pay?

That's what they are making now.

Quote:And if they aren't willing to work for what the business is willing to pay don't they have the right to not to work for them?

Yes but they don't have the right to send dozens or hundreds of people into the business in an attempt to slow down business.

(08-30-2013 01:19 PM)RobertN Wrote:  It never ceases to amaze me how they call Democrats arrogant etc. Yet, these Reichwingers are EXTREMELY arrogant.

Btw, I am quite sure that the point of saying $15 is to start negotiations. The workers know they aren't going to get $15 but maybe $10 or so after the negotiations. This is how you negotiate, start high and come to the middle.

You're one tough cookie... Begin at $15, and finally settle for an $.81 cent raise, going from $9.19 to $10.00 an hour...

And that's coming to the middle

The fast food and grocery store industries work on pretty narrow profit margins. Especially your grocery stores - the markups are pretty slim. You don't raise a wage by $6 per hour without some ripple effects: either a jack up in consumer prices and/or widespread layoffs.

I happened to be talking with a neighbor of mine a couple weeks ago who happens to be a district manager (or something like that) of Wendy's. He gave a lot of insight about the money flow, real estate costs, franchisors, union intentions, internal advancement, and so on. Covered some good topics. Admittedly, he's obviously biased. But it's easy to portray one's self as a "bleeding heart" by insisting that Walmart greeters and Kroger baggers deserve a significant hike in their paychecks, but only when one looks at the bigger picture do you realize that it's rife with negative consequences for all involved.

(08-30-2013 01:27 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 01:19 PM)RobertN Wrote:  It never ceases to amaze me how they call Democrats arrogant etc. Yet, these Reichwingers are EXTREMELY arrogant.

Btw, I am quite sure that the point of saying $15 is to start negotiations. The workers know they aren't going to get $15 but maybe $10 or so after the negotiations. This is how you negotiate, start high and come to the middle.

Negotiate with WHOM?!? I just covered this Robs, please try to keep up between making th office coffee and sharpening the pencil sets, okay?
They weren't asking for a meeting with the business owners to discuss a well deserved raise or anything of the sort. They we demanding the Federal Government mandate that ridiculousness as the new minimum wage.

Are you ready to pay 6 bucks or more for that cheeseburger? 2.50 for the fries? I'd wager no and neither would I. So guess what geniuses, you just put yourself and all the other unskilled, low ceiling workers OUT of work.

this doesn't simply apply to the burger flippers, this would also be that kid with a mental disability that bags groceries or collect carts. You think someone like him is going to warrant that kind of a wage for something that is basically a feel good, throw away job that they do for community outreach?

Congratulations, morons. You just put that poor kid OUT of a job and OUT of the workforce entirely.

Sometimes you leftist progs need to think through things a bit more than "does it make me feel good"? smdh.

Not to mention, if that were to happen, they would either lose their jobs because of zero business, or everyone would follow suit by driving up prices everywhere, therefore making the value of that $15 go right back to the value that $9.19 used to be... Damn kids.