As much as I would like this to be true, it simply isn't. I would like to see a link with the info, though, for laughs.

(08-17-2013 09:52 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(08-17-2013 08:33 PM)ringmaster Wrote:  Put this in the last thread, but the last comments by the OSU Insider open up a whole new avenue of conversation. He's saying that:

The Pac 12 is expanding and has started talking to the schools who would be leftover from a Texas/OU B1G expansion and will grease the wheels of the B1G expansion by making a soft landing spot for Texas Tech, OK State, etc. is what he said (guess this means K-State or Baylor) as the third school. But the fourth school the PAC 12 would take was a surprise. He says its between UNLV and Nevada-Reno right now for the last spot with UNLV in the lead right now.

He said that FOX is brokering the leftovers to the PAC 12 so that FOX will have coast-to-coast football. FWIW.

Also said talks with Texas were heating up

I'd say the dude is trolling a different handle. The PAC 12 won't take Boise st bc of academics but they'll take unlv or unr?

Never expected someone would think I was that piece of garbage with no life.

(08-17-2013 09:45 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(08-17-2013 09:26 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-17-2013 09:15 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  FOX already has a lot of this content through their deal with the Big 12 though. It would have to be paying each school substantially more in the PAC-12 to make it worth their while since it would mean the Big 12 schools leaving the exit fees and the PAC-12 becoming geographically extremely diverse without big names to show for it. I have a hard time picturing how FOX would benefit more than that way than with the Big 12 staying around.

They had roughly 50% of the Big 12 deal. If such a move gains them access for Texas and Oklahoma against Big 10 name brands it could still pay off for them, plus it makes a splash for the FOX 1 & 2 channels. There may even be some ESPN positioning to keep tier 1 Big 10 rights in this. Who knows? I'll just be interested to see if there is any truth to this one. But if you look at the Big 12 there are two football schools with national credentials and one with strong regional credentials. Those are worth more against larger audience draws. The PAC just needs to develop a new time zone niche with central time slots. Then they have even more product to sell. But I'll guess we'll eventually find out.

I am curious.....I know the two foootball schools with national credentials are OU and UT, and I assume OSU is the one with strong regional credentials. However, what about KU.....they have national credentials in basketball. I know the PAC was very interested in KU during the previous negotations.

If the PAC reaches out to the Big12 I don't see them overlooking KU basketball and their academics.

West Virginia is the one with strong regional football credentials, but just not for the Mid-West. There credentials are clearly in the Northeast.

You are correct about Kansas, but if they were not to go to the Big 10 the SEC or the PAC could show interest because of their hoops.

(08-17-2013 10:01 PM)UNLVFan90 Wrote:  As much as I would like this to be true, it simply isn't. I would like to see a link with the info, though, for laughs.

Can't link behind a paywall. Sorry.

If the then-Pac 10 had raided the Big 12 earlier, the ideal setup would have been Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska as the Central pod. This would have given the Pac 16 network five of the seven most valuable properties in the then-Big 12 (presuming Colorado is still along for the ride). The Big 10 would take Missouri as they have no other options on the western front. If the SEC had taken A&M, that would have done in the Big 12 under the old continuity rule.

Obviously the ship has sailed on Nebraska, as well as Texas A&M and Missouri, who would have been legitimate backup options. Now the PAC 12 might as well be raiding the Mountain West.

(08-17-2013 10:02 PM)ringmaster Wrote:  

(08-17-2013 09:52 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(08-17-2013 08:33 PM)ringmaster Wrote:  Put this in the last thread, but the last comments by the OSU Insider open up a whole new avenue of conversation. He's saying that:

The Pac 12 is expanding and has started talking to the schools who would be leftover from a Texas/OU B1G expansion and will grease the wheels of the B1G expansion by making a soft landing spot for Texas Tech, OK State, etc. is what he said (guess this means K-State or Baylor) as the third school. But the fourth school the PAC 12 would take was a surprise. He says its between UNLV and Nevada-Reno right now for the last spot with UNLV in the lead right now.

He said that FOX is brokering the leftovers to the PAC 12 so that FOX will have coast-to-coast football. FWIW.

Also said talks with Texas were heating up

I'd say the dude is trolling a different handle. The PAC 12 won't take Boise st bc of academics but they'll take unlv or unr?

Never expected someone would think I was that piece of garbage with no life.

I meant the insider not you.

More nonsense. It's not happening. Oklahoma is not going to the Pac 12 or Big 10. These rumors are great traffic generators. That is all.

BTW if there was any validity to this rumor, our local sports media would have already caught wind of it. Not a peep about any sort of conference shake up.

(08-17-2013 09:45 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  However, what about KU.....they have national credentials in basketball. I know the PAC was very interested in KU during the previous negotations.

If the PAC reaches out to the Big12 I don't see them overlooking KU basketball and their academics.

Right, Larry Scott visited KU in 2011 during the first go-round with Big 12 schools, they would have received an invite in the event TAMU said no and UT said yes.

Expansion into the central time zone is not happening without the Longhorns, though. The only way to get enough votes among the Pac CEOs is if the deal includes UT.

Realistically if the Big 12 broke up the left overs will be saying hello AAC or Indy. They are nothing without Texas and OU.

I think BIG maybe after Texas because BIG does not want the PAC (whatever number you should chose) to grab Texas leaving BIG high and dry. I don't think Texas will go to BIG. Playing in the north does not suit them. Too much cold weather and Texas would lose.

(08-18-2013 12:13 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  More nonsense. It's not happening. Oklahoma is not going to the Pac 12 or Big 10. These rumors are great traffic generators. That is all.

How would you know for sure? I am certainly not saying it is happening and if I was it certainly would not be due to some bloggers that obviously love the attention but for you to make an absolute statement like that, how do you know? You are doing the same thing they are doing.

Well, Baylor, TCU, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State and West Virginia will all share on a Big Pay Day from the GOR and exit fees paid by Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.

The New Big 12
Western Division
San Diego State
Boise State
BYU
Baylor
TCU
Houston
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
Eastern Division
UConn
Temple
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Old Dominion
East Carolina
Memphis
Central Florida
South Florida

Whom knows what will happen during the January talks. Everyone in the power conferences may need 16 schools

(08-18-2013 10:19 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Well, Baylor, TCU, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State and West Virginia will all share on a Big Pay Day from the GOR and exit fees paid by Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.

The New Big 12
Western Division
San Diego State
Boise State
BYU
Baylor
TCU
Houston
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
Eastern Division
UConn
Temple
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Old Dominion
East Carolina
Memphis
Central Florida
South Florida

WVU would pay a Kings Ransom to bailout to the SEC/ACC Kansas would be in the B1G house.

(08-17-2013 08:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The PAC likes state schools so I would guess it would be Texas Tech, Kansas State, and Oklahoma State to the PAC. If the Big 10 only plans to go to 16 then perhaps they take Texas and Oklahoma. I just don't see Texas moving to the Big 10 and that is why I don't have great confidence in this information. Texas is selfish, but not stupid. A move to the Big 10 alienates their fan base and gives the Aggies the inside track on becoming the most popular school in Texas. If only three go to the PAC with two to the Big 10 then 3 more schools have to be placed to void the GOR and dissolved the Big 12. So somewhere in this mix the SEC and/or ACC has to be involved as well.

I could see Texas going to the ACC, but not the SEC. If they go to the ACC they will likely do it to take a ND style deal and take a couple of buddies with them. That would be enough to get the deal done.

If the Big 10 takes 3 or more from the Big 12 then look for much broader movement than just with the Big 12. I give this less than 5% of happening.

This may or may not be true. But if we are moving to a more suitable structure for the networks something like this will happen sometime.

The SEC can place OK State and WVU. Kansas will be in the B1G.

(08-17-2013 08:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The PAC likes state schools so I would guess it would be Texas Tech, Kansas State, and Oklahoma State to the PAC. If the Big 10 only plans to go to 16 then perhaps they take Texas and Oklahoma. I just don't see Texas moving to the Big 10 and that is why I don't have great confidence in this information. Texas is selfish, but not stupid. A move to the Big 10 alienates their fan base and gives the Aggies the inside track on becoming the most popular school in Texas. If only three go to the PAC with two to the Big 10 then 3 more schools have to be placed to void the GOR and dissolved the Big 12. So somewhere in this mix the SEC and/or ACC has to be involved as well.

I could see Texas going to the ACC, but not the SEC. If they go to the ACC they will likely do it to take a ND style deal and take a couple of buddies with them. That would be enough to get the deal done.

If the Big 10 takes 3 or more from the Big 12 then look for much broader movement than just with the Big 12. I give this less than 5% of happening.

This may or may not be true. But if we are moving to a more suitable structure for the networks something like this will happen sometime.

The PAC invited Colorado early because they didn't want Texas Tech.

(08-17-2013 08:33 PM)ringmaster Wrote:  Put this in the last thread, but the last comments by the OSU Insider open up a whole new avenue of conversation. He's saying that:

The Pac 12 is expanding and has started talking to the schools who would be leftover from a Texas/OU B1G expansion and will grease the wheels of the B1G expansion by making a soft landing spot for Texas Tech, OK State, etc. is what he said (guess this means K-State or Baylor) as the third school. But the fourth school the PAC 12 would take was a surprise. He says its between UNLV and Nevada-Reno right now for the last spot with UNLV in the lead right now.

He said that FOX is brokering the leftovers to the PAC 12 so that FOX will have coast-to-coast football. FWIW.

Also said talks with Texas were heating up

EDIT: It occurred to me that "OSU" insider could refer to OK State or Ohio State. I should have said Ohio State (though I do reference OK State as that in the next sentence).

Nonsense

(08-18-2013 12:47 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(08-17-2013 08:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The PAC likes state schools so I would guess it would be Texas Tech, Kansas State, and Oklahoma State to the PAC. If the Big 10 only plans to go to 16 then perhaps they take Texas and Oklahoma. I just don't see Texas moving to the Big 10 and that is why I don't have great confidence in this information. Texas is selfish, but not stupid. A move to the Big 10 alienates their fan base and gives the Aggies the inside track on becoming the most popular school in Texas. If only three go to the PAC with two to the Big 10 then 3 more schools have to be placed to void the GOR and dissolved the Big 12. So somewhere in this mix the SEC and/or ACC has to be involved as well.

I could see Texas going to the ACC, but not the SEC. If they go to the ACC they will likely do it to take a ND style deal and take a couple of buddies with them. That would be enough to get the deal done.

If the Big 10 takes 3 or more from the Big 12 then look for much broader movement than just with the Big 12. I give this less than 5% of happening.

This may or may not be true. But if we are moving to a more suitable structure for the networks something like this will happen sometime.

The PAC invited Colorado early because they didn't want Baylor.

FIFY

(08-18-2013 12:47 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(08-17-2013 08:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The PAC likes state schools so I would guess it would be Texas Tech, Kansas State, and Oklahoma State to the PAC. If the Big 10 only plans to go to 16 then perhaps they take Texas and Oklahoma. I just don't see Texas moving to the Big 10 and that is why I don't have great confidence in this information. Texas is selfish, but not stupid. A move to the Big 10 alienates their fan base and gives the Aggies the inside track on becoming the most popular school in Texas. If only three go to the PAC with two to the Big 10 then 3 more schools have to be placed to void the GOR and dissolved the Big 12. So somewhere in this mix the SEC and/or ACC has to be involved as well.

I could see Texas going to the ACC, but not the SEC. If they go to the ACC they will likely do it to take a ND style deal and take a couple of buddies with them. That would be enough to get the deal done.

If the Big 10 takes 3 or more from the Big 12 then look for much broader movement than just with the Big 12. I give this less than 5% of happening.

This may or may not be true. But if we are moving to a more suitable structure for the networks something like this will happen sometime.

The PAC invited Colorado early because they didn't want Texas Tech.

Sorry, but with all due rerspect that is not correct. The PAC took Colorado because they did not want Baylor.