(08-06-2013 10:58 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 10:44 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 10:42 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 08:14 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 07:45 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  We are being manipulated so we will freely give away our privacy. President Obama (Black Bush) learned well. The saber rattling and elevated terror threat levels beg the question. CHANGE?
By the way NSA.. blow me

How very libertarian of you.

You really don't expect Hillary to reel in the NSA, do you?

Nope. I expect them to watch tea baggers like you closely. One misstep and bam, you are in the Homeland Security concentration camps!

The funny thing is, you think you're funny.

I know I am funny.

Oh, you're a riot, but not in the way you think.

(08-06-2013 10:08 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 07:36 AM)VA49er Wrote:  So, you guys think this is the result of good intel or just an overreaction based on what happened in Benghazi? Either way, maybe we learned from Benghazi so hopefully this move saves lives.

You're asking a question that none of us has any capability to answer correctly. It's like Feynman's example of surveying the kingdom asking how long is the emporer's nose.

Nobody here deals in facts, just give an opinion like in every other thread.

(08-06-2013 11:29 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 10:08 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 07:36 AM)VA49er Wrote:  So, you guys think this is the result of good intel or just an overreaction based on what happened in Benghazi? Either way, maybe we learned from Benghazi so hopefully this move saves lives.

You're asking a question that none of us has any capability to answer correctly. It's like Feynman's example of surveying the kingdom asking how long is the emporer's nose.

Nobody here deals in facts, just give an opinion like in every other thread.

Or in Torchy's case, other people's opinions because he can't think for himself.

(08-06-2013 11:31 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 11:29 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 10:08 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 07:36 AM)VA49er Wrote:  So, you guys think this is the result of good intel or just an overreaction based on what happened in Benghazi? Either way, maybe we learned from Benghazi so hopefully this move saves lives.

You're asking a question that none of us has any capability to answer correctly. It's like Feynman's example of surveying the kingdom asking how long is the emporer's nose.

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Nobody here deals in facts, just give an opinion like in every other thread.

Or in Torchy's case, other people's opinions because he can't think for himself.

O' the irony...

(08-06-2013 10:51 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 10:48 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Supposedly AQAP has developed a process that turns clothes into a Bomb and it's undetectable at checkpoints.

http://www.businessinsider.com/al-qaeda-...omb-2013-8

Let's just hope uofa contracts with them for their jerseys.

Kind of a new variant of tear-away jersies, where body parts come off too...

(08-06-2013 11:31 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 11:29 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 10:08 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 07:36 AM)VA49er Wrote:  So, you guys think this is the result of good intel or just an overreaction based on what happened in Benghazi? Either way, maybe we learned from Benghazi so hopefully this move saves lives.

You're asking a question that none of us has any capability to answer correctly. It's like Feynman's example of surveying the kingdom asking how long is the emporer's nose.

Nobody here deals in facts, just give an opinion like in every other thread.

Or in Torchy's case, other people's opinions because he can't think for himself.

As if you've ever had an original thought

Now, now. Rob has an important job - he holds down one corner of the bell curve.

When we close our Embassies, we might as well be waving the red flag. The appeasers in the US have won.

Would it not have made more sense to set up ambushes?

Susan Rice doesn't want to be blamed again for being the point man for lies. So, they go to the opposite extreme and close 'em all.

This does project weakness. No surprise coming from this administration.
But it also seems to me that there is an element of "see, we NEED these NSA programs to keep you safe." Never mind that spying on us to prevent these kinds of attacks has nothing to do with what is happening with all the chatter among the radical extremist organizations.

Makes sense to close our embassies.
Obama sure isn't going to protect them.

(08-06-2013 12:39 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Susan Rice doesn't want to be blamed again for being the point man for lies. So, they go to the opposite extreme and close 'em all.

This does project weakness. No surprise coming from this administration.
But it also seems to me that there is an element of "see, we NEED these NSA programs to keep you safe." Never mind that spying on us to prevent these kinds of attacks has nothing to do with what is happening with all the chatter among the radical extremist organizations.

Nidal Hasan had sent more than a dozen emails to Anwar al-Awlaki, starting in December 2008. Did The NSA catch that? No. So how effective is it really.

(08-06-2013 07:45 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  We are being manipulated so we will freely give away our privacy. President Obama (Black Bush) learned well. The saber rattling and elevated terror threat levels beg the question. CHANGE?
By the way NSA.. blow me

Spot on. Scare tactics for simple minded.

(08-06-2013 12:39 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Susan Rice doesn't want to be blamed again for being the point man for lies. So, they go to the opposite extreme and close 'em all.

This does project weakness. No surprise coming from this administration.
But it also seems to me that there is an element of "see, we NEED these NSA programs to keep you safe." Never mind that spying on us to prevent these kinds of attacks has nothing to do with what is happening with all the chatter among the radical extremist organizations.

Gee and I though I was the only cynic around.

Guess they will buy a burn phone and give a big warning we can listen in on
each week now.
Fun times.

(08-06-2013 11:29 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 10:08 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 07:36 AM)VA49er Wrote:  So, you guys think this is the result of good intel or just an overreaction based on what happened in Benghazi? Either way, maybe we learned from Benghazi so hopefully this move saves lives.

You're asking a question that none of us has any capability to answer correctly. It's like Feynman's example of surveying the kingdom asking how long is the emporer's nose.

Nobody here deals in facts, just give an opinion like in every other thread.

In my type of work not dealing in facts can be tragically expensive, and even deadly.

It may be hard to deal in facts, but some of us do it.

Sometimes I wonder if the high ups in Al Qaeda just get together and say "Hey, let's call each other on X date, say something about a fake impending attack, and then set back and laugh at the Americans as they scramble around like headless mice". I bet they get a kick out of that.

Can see them making all sorts of things up. Talking about having terrorists inside airlines or loaders, would or could halt all flights.
Talking about some building could close down an entire city, or country. Could talk about attacking somewhere, draw troops in, and aid
them in attacking elsewhere. Could say, such and such is on their organization or payroll, when they are not.
They could cause mass confusion or hysteria, and untold trillions of dollar losses, and millions of wasted man hours. This is not the way
I would handle the situation. Would go back to original George Bush premise...either a country is with us totally on this, or they are aiding
the enemy and will be treated as such. Always attack. Get to the bottom of all those escapees, obviously well organized. Security around
the world and in those countries is severely lacking. Find them and send them to their virgins.

(08-07-2013 08:26 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Sometimes I wonder if the high ups in Al Qaeda just get together and say "Hey, let's call each other on X date, say something about a fake impending attack, and then set back and laugh at the Americans as they scramble around like headless mice". I bet they get a kick out of that.

It's all fun and games until someone drops a drone missile on your daughter's wedding party.

(08-07-2013 02:46 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 08:26 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Sometimes I wonder if the high ups in Al Qaeda just get together and say "Hey, let's call each other on X date, say something about a fake impending attack, and then set back and laugh at the Americans as they scramble around like headless mice". I bet they get a kick out of that.

It's all fun and games until someone drops a drone missile on your daughter's wedding party.

Yeah, that will really scew up the dowry.