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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 03:00 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: You guys just keep falling for the BS. '
Nice edit... Anyways, would you like to fill me in on what's NOT BS about this?
1. He just ok'd protests (which have turned violent several times)
2. He just said blacks get racially profiled (that's just his opinion which he isn't supposed to share, given his current job title)
3. He said "as people process the verdict, it's important to put the pained and angry reaction of many African-Americans into context."
4. He said he understands protests and that "some of that stuff is just going to have to work its way through." (In other words, deal with it because I'm not the one to stop them.)
5. He said "It's important to recognize that the African-American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn't go away." (Keep playing that card, "Mr. President")
6. He said, when speaking of blacks, "They sometimes are closely followed when they shop at department stores; they can draw nervous stares on elevators and hear car locks clicking when they walk down the street." (In other words, blacks like US are profiled regularly)
7. Damn, too many to list in just one single speech to black america. You can't sit there and tell me that this isn't instigating. It would be bad enough coming from the NAACP or Sharpton/Jackson, but this is coming from Obama, he's supposed to help this nation, not divide it.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 02:04 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (07-19-2013 01:58 PM)Stick4489 Wrote: (07-19-2013 01:28 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: "He says he also has heard drivers lock their doors and has seen women clutch their purses tighter when he walked by, before he was elected to public office."
So have I and I'm a Wayne County white boy. Is he suggesting the world would be a better place if the world was unlocked and ladies were careless with their purses?
I'm guessing his car doors are locked.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 03:09 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote: (07-19-2013 03:00 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: You guys just keep falling for the BS. '
Yummy on "the left".
Agreed with firm for once. Hannity has talked about Zman all darn week. Removed the station from my presets yesterday.
He's as filthy as Jesse, Al, Obama, Holder & co. and you guys are praising him on another thread, while sitting in his pocket.
Whoa dude, way out of your context... Hannity talking about Z all week is better than blacks all over America rioting over Trayvon all week... Hannity has called them out and they can do nothing but deflect.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 03:19 PM)Stick4489 Wrote: (07-19-2013 02:04 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (07-19-2013 01:58 PM)Stick4489 Wrote: (07-19-2013 01:28 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: "He says he also has heard drivers lock their doors and has seen women clutch their purses tighter when he walked by, before he was elected to public office."
So have I and I'm a Wayne County white boy. Is he suggesting the world would be a better place if the world was unlocked and ladies were careless with their purses?
I'm guessing his car doors are locked.
Indiana?
Huntington, West Virginia
I'd like to see one female who has valuables or personal information in their purse that don't grip it a little tighter when ANYBODY walks by... His remarks are very uncalled for and very unprofessional.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
So here are some great gems I found on a NYT article about Obama's inflammatory speech today. Liberals..
President Obama's statements on such a sensitive and difficult issue are always welcome and thoughtful, particularly considering the incredibly complicated space he must inhabit. After 5 years, no one can doubt he has powerfully obliterated any doubt as to the need for our society to question, even think about, whether an African-American, Hispanic, woman, anyone not a white male, can lead our country. Undoubtedly, some will criticize this modest discussion he has attempted. But he should now speak, whether as president or simply a person of conscience. I wish he would/could say even more, but I presume his caution is intended to keep the door to leadership as wide open as possible, perhaps at the expense of pushing a needed policy agenda more forcefully.
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No, Mr. Obama is not confused about the George Zimmerman case. Not at all. I teach college level students in Miami. Many of my students are black. And when they talk about and write about racial issues, they speak about how often they are trailed in stores. In fact a couple of my students at the moment who work in retail told how they are specifically told by management to walk around behind black customers. I don't care what those six white women on the jury said, the reality is that had Trayvon Martin been 18 or older and the one who stalked George Zimmerman, those six white women would have not come up with a not guilty verdict. Believe me, racism is very much with us in 2013, very much so. And to pretend otherwise is to be in deep denial. Bravo for President Obama's remarks.
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This idiot takes the cake.
An extraordinary moment when the President unmasks and identifies himself with Trayvon. An important historical moment, much more than a footnote. What the President is saying to all
Americans is, if decocted to its essentials, we are one nation and everyone is equal -- this is not a society that separates, legally, the well-born from the street born. It took deep sentiments for a most proficient master of the political game to cast aside his Presidential persona and present his black racial collective consciousness. A most remarkable President for a most unremarkable constituency.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 02:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: (07-19-2013 02:02 PM)dawgitall Wrote: You guys are obsessed with your dislike for President Obama. Good gosh, just let it be. There wasn't anything inflammatory about what he said.
So we should just "let it be" when the man who holds the most responsible/professional job in America says, "we'll just have to let it work itself through," in other words, have your protests and riots, I'm the president of the United States of America and I'm giving you the OK, and "black men are followed through department stores all the time," in other words, they're profiled. That last time I heard "let it be" was right after closing arguments. The black community (who obviously thought the race card would win them another) said, "Let's just all agree, no matter what the verdict is, that we can accept it and move on."
So, dawgitail, who REALLY needs to let it be?
When you have gangs of violent rioters beating up whites, beating up cyclists, breaking windows in court houses, stopping a mother from taking her 7 y/o to the emergency room BC she's having an allergic reaction to some medicine, it's tough to just "let it be." Got it?
You prove my point. He didn't give anyone permission to riot. He said protests were a part of the process. The black community would work through this. He certainly didn't give anyone justification to behave in a violent way.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
A fool and his money are soon parted.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 03:27 PM)dawgitall Wrote: (07-19-2013 02:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: (07-19-2013 02:02 PM)dawgitall Wrote: You guys are obsessed with your dislike for President Obama. Good gosh, just let it be. There wasn't anything inflammatory about what he said.
So we should just "let it be" when the man who holds the most responsible/professional job in America says, "we'll just have to let it work itself through," in other words, have your protests and riots, I'm the president of the United States of America and I'm giving you the OK, and "black men are followed through department stores all the time," in other words, they're profiled. That last time I heard "let it be" was right after closing arguments. The black community (who obviously thought the race card would win them another) said, "Let's just all agree, no matter what the verdict is, that we can accept it and move on."
So, dawgitail, who REALLY needs to let it be?
When you have gangs of violent rioters beating up whites, beating up cyclists, breaking windows in court houses, stopping a mother from taking her 7 y/o to the emergency room BC she's having an allergic reaction to some medicine, it's tough to just "let it be." Got it?
You prove my point. He didn't give anyone permission to riot. He said protests were a part of the process. The black community would work through this. He certainly didn't give anyone justification to behave in a violent way.
The hell he didn't
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 03:33 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (07-19-2013 03:27 PM)dawgitall Wrote: (07-19-2013 02:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: (07-19-2013 02:02 PM)dawgitall Wrote: You guys are obsessed with your dislike for President Obama. Good gosh, just let it be. There wasn't anything inflammatory about what he said.
So we should just "let it be" when the man who holds the most responsible/professional job in America says, "we'll just have to let it work itself through," in other words, have your protests and riots, I'm the president of the United States of America and I'm giving you the OK, and "black men are followed through department stores all the time," in other words, they're profiled. That last time I heard "let it be" was right after closing arguments. The black community (who obviously thought the race card would win them another) said, "Let's just all agree, no matter what the verdict is, that we can accept it and move on."
So, dawgitail, who REALLY needs to let it be?
When you have gangs of violent rioters beating up whites, beating up cyclists, breaking windows in court houses, stopping a mother from taking her 7 y/o to the emergency room BC she's having an allergic reaction to some medicine, it's tough to just "let it be." Got it?
You prove my point. He didn't give anyone permission to riot. He said protests were a part of the process. The black community would work through this. He certainly didn't give anyone justification to behave in a violent way.
The hell he didn't
BS.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
and if anyone is still unclear on how the President's comments promote racism...take this comment from a Wall Street Journal article.
The white man is responsible for the worst crimes perpetrated on Earth: Racism, War, Slavery, Greed, Environmental Rape and Murder. The white man does not have a historical or moral basis upon which he can be critical of President Obama.
This is the truth. It cannot be disputed or debated. Those who question the truth have no say and do not deserve to be heard.
The attacks on President Obama are motivated by ignorance, fear and racism.
This isn't racism to the left. They like this kind of thinking. It's just the white man who can't understand what they have been through.
It's going to backfire on you, zealots.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 03:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: and if anyone is still unclear on how the President's comments promote racism...take this comment from a Wall Street Journal article.
The white man is responsible for the worst crimes perpetrated on Earth: Racism, War, Slavery, Greed, Environmental Rape and Murder. The white man does not have a historical or moral basis upon which he can be critical of President Obama.
This is the truth. It cannot be disputed or debated. Those who question the truth have no say and do not deserve to be heard.
The attacks on President Obama are motivated by ignorance, fear and racism.
This isn't racism to the left. They like this kind of thinking. It's just the white man who can't understand what they have been through.
It's going to backfire on you, zealots.
A link with some context would be helpful. Thanks.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 03:27 PM)dawgitall Wrote: (07-19-2013 02:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: (07-19-2013 02:02 PM)dawgitall Wrote: You guys are obsessed with your dislike for President Obama. Good gosh, just let it be. There wasn't anything inflammatory about what he said.
So we should just "let it be" when the man who holds the most responsible/professional job in America says, "we'll just have to let it work itself through," in other words, have your protests and riots, I'm the president of the United States of America and I'm giving you the OK, and "black men are followed through department stores all the time," in other words, they're profiled. That last time I heard "let it be" was right after closing arguments. The black community (who obviously thought the race card would win them another) said, "Let's just all agree, no matter what the verdict is, that we can accept it and move on."
So, dawgitail, who REALLY needs to let it be?
When you have gangs of violent rioters beating up whites, beating up cyclists, breaking windows in court houses, stopping a mother from taking her 7 y/o to the emergency room BC she's having an allergic reaction to some medicine, it's tough to just "let it be." Got it?
You prove my point. He didn't give anyone permission to riot. He said protests were a part of the process. The black community would work through this. He certainly didn't give anyone justification to behave in a violent way.
He understands the reasons for the protests. This does NOT say, "There shouldn't be any protests" when it should, in fact, say that. He GAVE the OK for the protests, and they have only led to violence.
Saying that "It's just something that we'll have to work through" is his way of saying to deal with it and let it pass over. Ok sure, in the meantime, people get their cars jumped on, get punched and beat up in the name of a thug, a mother can't take her 7 y/o to the ER to keep her throat from swelling shut, and who knows what else will happen, violently, between now and the time that the "black community works through this." Grow up, you're all acting like a bunch of spoiled crybabies, and the president isn't helping one bit, he's just feeding them right along. How can you just look past all of this?
Oh I know, because some "white" guy killed a black guy and the facts, paired with evidence let the "white" man off so the blacks are hard up on refusing to believe facts and evidence, thus leading to violent protests and riots. GOTCHA.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 03:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (07-19-2013 03:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: and if anyone is still unclear on how the President's comments promote racism...take this comment from a Wall Street Journal article.
The white man is responsible for the worst crimes perpetrated on Earth: Racism, War, Slavery, Greed, Environmental Rape and Murder. The white man does not have a historical or moral basis upon which he can be critical of President Obama.
This is the truth. It cannot be disputed or debated. Those who question the truth have no say and do not deserve to be heard.
The attacks on President Obama are motivated by ignorance, fear and racism.
This isn't racism to the left. They like this kind of thinking. It's just the white man who can't understand what they have been through.
It's going to backfire on you, zealots.
A link with some context would be helpful. Thanks.
I think he must be quoting a post in the comments section below an article. Boy those really carry a lot of weight.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 03:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: So here are some great gems I found on a NYT article about Obama's inflammatory speech today. Liberals..
President Obama's statements on such a sensitive and difficult issue are always welcome and thoughtful, particularly considering the incredibly complicated space he must inhabit. After 5 years, no one can doubt he has powerfully obliterated any doubt as to the need for our society to question, even think about, whether an African-American, Hispanic, woman, anyone not a white male, can lead our country. Undoubtedly, some will criticize this modest discussion he has attempted. But he should now speak, whether as president or simply a person of conscience. I wish he would/could say even more, but I presume his caution is intended to keep the door to leadership as wide open as possible, perhaps at the expense of pushing a needed policy agenda more forcefully.
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No, Mr. Obama is not confused about the George Zimmerman case. Not at all. I teach college level students in Miami. Many of my students are black. And when they talk about and write about racial issues, they speak about how often they are trailed in stores. In fact a couple of my students at the moment who work in retail told how they are specifically told by management to walk around behind black customers. I don't care what those six white women on the jury said, the reality is that had Trayvon Martin been 18 or older and the one who stalked George Zimmerman, those six white women would have not come up with a not guilty verdict. Believe me, racism is very much with us in 2013, very much so. And to pretend otherwise is to be in deep denial. Bravo for President Obama's remarks.
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This idiot takes the cake.
An extraordinary moment when the President unmasks and identifies himself with Trayvon. An important historical moment, much more than a footnote. What the President is saying to all
Americans is, if decocted to its essentials, we are one nation and everyone is equal -- this is not a society that separates, legally, the well-born from the street born. It took deep sentiments for a most proficient master of the political game to cast aside his Presidential persona and present his black racial collective consciousness. A most remarkable President for a most unremarkable constituency.
(07-19-2013 03:52 PM)dawgitall Wrote: (07-19-2013 03:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (07-19-2013 03:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: and if anyone is still unclear on how the President's comments promote racism...take this comment from a Wall Street Journal article.
The white man is responsible for the worst crimes perpetrated on Earth: Racism, War, Slavery, Greed, Environmental Rape and Murder. The white man does not have a historical or moral basis upon which he can be critical of President Obama.
This is the truth. It cannot be disputed or debated. Those who question the truth have no say and do not deserve to be heard.
The attacks on President Obama are motivated by ignorance, fear and racism.
This isn't racism to the left. They like this kind of thinking. It's just the white man who can't understand what they have been through.
It's going to backfire on you, zealots.
A link with some context would be helpful. Thanks.
I think he must be quoting a post in the comments section below an article. Boy those really carry a lot of weight.
" Those who question the truth have no say and do not deserve to be heard."
Hypocrisy statement of the month.
" I think he must be quoting a post in the comments section below an article. Boy those really carry a lot of weight."
They carry the attitude of how screwed up people in today's society are. The liberals, white guilt, the cowards who would say, "Here Mr. black man, can you please rear back and kick my dick and balls so that I can be forgiven for any hurt my ancestors may have caused your anscestors?"
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
Question- Why and by whom should George Zimmerman fear for his life? He is an innocent man correct?
How about the 6 jurors? Would you feel "protected" by this president and his careless remarks?
Are ANY of you leftist drones willing to stake the claim that these "protests we need to work through" that ES has endorsed will be non-violent? If not, what should he THEN do about this?
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 03:52 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: (07-19-2013 03:27 PM)dawgitall Wrote: (07-19-2013 02:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: (07-19-2013 02:02 PM)dawgitall Wrote: You guys are obsessed with your dislike for President Obama. Good gosh, just let it be. There wasn't anything inflammatory about what he said.
So we should just "let it be" when the man who holds the most responsible/professional job in America says, "we'll just have to let it work itself through," in other words, have your protests and riots, I'm the president of the United States of America and I'm giving you the OK, and "black men are followed through department stores all the time," in other words, they're profiled. That last time I heard "let it be" was right after closing arguments. The black community (who obviously thought the race card would win them another) said, "Let's just all agree, no matter what the verdict is, that we can accept it and move on."
So, dawgitail, who REALLY needs to let it be?
When you have gangs of violent rioters beating up whites, beating up cyclists, breaking windows in court houses, stopping a mother from taking her 7 y/o to the emergency room BC she's having an allergic reaction to some medicine, it's tough to just "let it be." Got it?
You prove my point. He didn't give anyone permission to riot. He said protests were a part of the process. The black community would work through this. He certainly didn't give anyone justification to behave in a violent way.
He understands the reasons for the protests. This does NOT say, "There shouldn't be any protests" when it should, in fact, say that. He GAVE the OK for the protests, and they have only led to violence.
Saying that "It's just something that we'll have to work through" is his way of saying to deal with it and let it pass over. Ok sure, in the meantime, people get their cars jumped on, get punched and beat up in the name of a thug, a mother can't take her 7 y/o to the ER to keep her throat from swelling shut, and who knows what else will happen, violently, between now and the time that the "black community works through this." Grow up, you're all acting like a bunch of spoiled crybabies, and the president isn't helping one bit, he's just feeding them right along. How can you just look past all of this?
Oh I know, because some "white" guy killed a black guy and the facts, paired with evidence let the "white" man off so the blacks are hard up on refusing to believe facts and evidence, thus leading to violent protests and riots. GOTCHA.
So let me get this straight. You are opposed to protests? I personally feel strongly about supporting our Bill of Rights and Amendment one assures our right to "the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." If unlawful acts occur then there are laws to deal with that, but the idea of telling people that they can't protest because something might happen is totally un-American.
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
And just keep kicking them until you feel like you can forgive me.
Yeah no, to hell with that. I didn't do anything wrong, my parents didn't do anything wrong, and nobody that I know has done anything wrong that would warrant an apology to the way blacks were treated well before I came into the picture. I see all of these idiot lilly white liberals crying like Paula Deen while they apologize to everyone in the black race. Lol f*ck you. no
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 03:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (07-19-2013 03:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: and if anyone is still unclear on how the President's comments promote racism...take this comment from a Wall Street Journal article.
The white man is responsible for the worst crimes perpetrated on Earth: Racism, War, Slavery, Greed, Environmental Rape and Murder. The white man does not have a historical or moral basis upon which he can be critical of President Obama.
This is the truth. It cannot be disputed or debated. Those who question the truth have no say and do not deserve to be heard.
The attacks on President Obama are motivated by ignorance, fear and racism.
This isn't racism to the left. They like this kind of thinking. It's just the white man who can't understand what they have been through.
It's going to backfire on you, zealots.
A link with some context would be helpful. Thanks.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...3Dcomments
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
Quote:If unlawful acts occur then there are laws to deal with that, but the idea of telling people that they can't protest because something might happen is totally un-American.
There ain't no IF about it, its already happened and he's now endorsed the lawlessness. So when the first innocent mighty whitey is murdered, What level of responsibility would you place at zerO's feet?
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RE: Obama addresses Trayvon Martin case in briefing room
(07-19-2013 03:52 PM)dawgitall Wrote: (07-19-2013 03:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (07-19-2013 03:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: and if anyone is still unclear on how the President's comments promote racism...take this comment from a Wall Street Journal article.
The white man is responsible for the worst crimes perpetrated on Earth: Racism, War, Slavery, Greed, Environmental Rape and Murder. The white man does not have a historical or moral basis upon which he can be critical of President Obama.
This is the truth. It cannot be disputed or debated. Those who question the truth have no say and do not deserve to be heard.
The attacks on President Obama are motivated by ignorance, fear and racism.
This isn't racism to the left. They like this kind of thinking. It's just the white man who can't understand what they have been through.
It's going to backfire on you, zealots.
A link with some context would be helpful. Thanks.
I think he must be quoting a post in the comments section below an article. Boy those really carry a lot of weight.
You are exactly right where I got that and it outlines how people receive his message. That comment is not isolated. We have a huge portion of the population that is downright ignorant and will take the President's comments as a signal to bash whites.
you can expect violence tomorrow after the "peaceful" protests.
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