pac- flirted with cu in 1996
acc- flirted with syracuse in 2005
sec- flirted with aggie in 2010
b12- flirted with tcu in 1996

it sure seems like schools that a conference didnt add but almost did seems to be like planting a seed that sticks around. im wondering if these events mean that a conference already has its next expansion option in mind or if they do in fact have the "what if" thinking when they dont like where a particular conference realignment move went.

and im not saying it works one way (aggie is a perfect example of a school showing regret)

(07-17-2013 09:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  pac- flirted with cu in 1996
acc- flirted with syracuse in 2005
sec- flirted with aggie in 2010
b12- flirted with tcu in 1996

it sure seems like schools that a conference didnt add but almost did seems to be like planting a seed that sticks around. im wondering if these events mean that a conference already has its next expansion option in mind or if they do in fact have the "what if" thinking when they dont like where a particular conference realignment move went.

and im not saying it works one way (aggie is a perfect example of a school showing regret)

Did they flirt at the time prior to the formation of the Big 12 too?

(07-17-2013 10:06 PM)Flying Bearcat Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 09:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  pac- flirted with cu in 1996
acc- flirted with syracuse in 2005
sec- flirted with aggie in 2010
b12- flirted with tcu in 1996

it sure seems like schools that a conference didnt add but almost did seems to be like planting a seed that sticks around. im wondering if these events mean that a conference already has its next expansion option in mind or if they do in fact have the "what if" thinking when they dont like where a particular conference realignment move went.

and im not saying it works one way (aggie is a perfect example of a school showing regret)

Did they flirt at the time prior to the formation of the Big 12 too?

im not sure

SEC - flirted with Rice in 1990...

(07-17-2013 09:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  pac- flirted with cu in 1996
acc- flirted with syracuse in 2005
sec- flirted with aggie in 2010
b12- flirted with tcu in 1996

it sure seems like schools that a conference didnt add but almost did seems to be like planting a seed that sticks around. im wondering if these events mean that a conference already has its next expansion option in mind or if they do in fact have the "what if" thinking when they dont like where a particular conference realignment move went.

and im not saying it works one way (aggie is a perfect example of a school showing regret)

A&M and Texas first talked with the SEC in 1992, emphasis on "talked".

I think a lot of times if a school is the first runner up the time before if you will, they are already such a known quantity that when the conference is looking to expand the next time, that school is a natural front runner. I mean, if the expansion process for the ACC had been in the public in 2011 when Pitt and Syracuse went so stealth- Syracuse would have been the frontrunner for sure based on what happened back in 2004/2005.

The Big Ten flirted with ND in 1999, 2003 and 2010.

That hasn't worked out so well for that conference regarding that school since then.

(07-17-2013 10:55 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I think a lot of times if a school is the first runner up the time before if you will, they are already such a known quantity that when the conference is looking to expand the next time, that school is a natural front runner. I mean, if the expansion process for the ACC had been in the public in 2011 when Pitt and Syracuse went so stealth- Syracuse would have been the frontrunner for sure based on what happened back in 2004/2005.

That's true Stever20 and the Conference has already created a prioritized pick list. So if their #2 choice didn't accept the first time and they added #1 & #3 then they will come back to #2 again when they want #4 and will do so before they talk to #5. I suppose the change to market driven realignment re-prioritized some of the pick lists as at one time Clemson and Florida State were of interest to the SEC, but that was two decades ago and when this realignment move started under market driven criteria then A&M was a priority again and Clemson and F.S.U. weren't. Mizzou became a priority under the market addition priorities. I doubt they were on the radar at all in 1992 whereas Texas and A&M were.

(07-17-2013 10:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 09:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  pac- flirted with cu in 1996
acc- flirted with syracuse in 2005
sec- flirted with aggie in 2010
b12- flirted with tcu in 1996

it sure seems like schools that a conference didnt add but almost did seems to be like planting a seed that sticks around. im wondering if these events mean that a conference already has its next expansion option in mind or if they do in fact have the "what if" thinking when they dont like where a particular conference realignment move went.

and im not saying it works one way (aggie is a perfect example of a school showing regret)

A&M and Texas first talked with the SEC in 1992, emphasis on "talked".

There were rumors around that time that Texas and Texas Tech would go to the Pac 10 and Texas A&M and Houston would go to the SEC.

(07-17-2013 11:08 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 10:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 09:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  pac- flirted with cu in 1996
acc- flirted with syracuse in 2005
sec- flirted with aggie in 2010
b12- flirted with tcu in 1996

it sure seems like schools that a conference didnt add but almost did seems to be like planting a seed that sticks around. im wondering if these events mean that a conference already has its next expansion option in mind or if they do in fact have the "what if" thinking when they dont like where a particular conference realignment move went.

and im not saying it works one way (aggie is a perfect example of a school showing regret)

A&M and Texas first talked with the SEC in 1992, emphasis on "talked".

There were rumors around that time that Texas and Texas Tech would go to the Pac 10 and Texas A&M and Houston would go to the SEC.

What was the story on the PAC angle Bullet? I was familiar with the SEC interest in the Horns and Aggies but never heard anything pertaining to the Cougars. I would be interested to hear the story on that.

Good thread. I think it's more that the factors that led to discussions in the first round lead to a move in the second round.

In 2003, Syracuse was the strongest available football/basketball school in the Northeast, who claimed penetration in New York City. 2011, same story.

Not as familiar with the Colorado story, but all the factors that led the PAC to talk to Colorado in 1996 were factors that made Colorado an attractive #11 in 2012. (Not sure who the #12 would have been in 1996.)

The Big 12 did not flirt with TCU in 1996.

The Big East flirted with UCF in 2003. If it wasn't for the Sun Dome on USF's campus, UCF would have likely been taken over USF. Yes, I'm still bitter.

I don't think it is regret but rather familiarity and a chance to become comfortable with the idea.

(07-18-2013 09:03 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I don't think it is regret but rather familiarity and a chance to become comfortable with the idea.

exactly. i think once that though gets planted in someones head they become used to the idea

If this theory is true, I need to drive down to L.A. and flirt with Kaley Cuoco.

(07-17-2013 10:39 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  SEC - flirted with Rice in 1990...

LOL..... That was UH (and A&M). Forgot the specific names but it was a combo of SEC officials and coaches angling for A&M in the early 90's and "considering" us as a partner for the Aggies.

The real play was for A&M by far. I won't try and spin it as we (UH) were the main focus of that expansion talk, and for the record I don't think you were going there either.

(07-18-2013 02:02 PM)Wedge Wrote:  If this theory is true, I need to drive down to L.A. and flirt with Kaley Cuoco.

Sometimes that works. You gotta plant the seed and let it grow.

(07-18-2013 02:04 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 02:02 PM)Wedge Wrote:  If this theory is true, I need to drive down to L.A. and flirt with Kaley Cuoco.

Sometimes that works. You gotta plant the seed and let it grow.

touche

(07-18-2013 08:21 AM)BaylorGuy314 Wrote:  The Big 12 did not flirt with TCU in 1996.

This!

They got dumped like a bad habit like the rest of us.

The difference is they manned up and fought their way back first.