(07-17-2013 01:40 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  2. They make their money off suing people who attack them. They encourage people to attack them. They gain financially.

Have there been physical violence against them? I've often been surprised at how seldom they've been attacked, unless I'm missing some juicy stories. It'd seem that every time they protest some funeral, someone from the funeral party would lose it and go fists a-flying (and for good reason).

They are constantly in court getting settlements off people that lose their cool and attack them. They are banned from Oklahoma after they almost got killed by a local biker club at a funeral for a vet.

http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/...again.html

(07-17-2013 01:42 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Two things that people should know about Westboro

1. They are most likely a Marxist organization designed to tarnish public opinion on Christianity.
2. They make their money off suing people who attack them. They encourage people to attack them. They gain financially.

1. I don't believe that for a minute.

2. Yeah, pretty much.

I wish there was some way I could make you believe it, because it is the truth. It's not much different that the plants at Tea Party rallies that hold up racist signs. Social Marxism is very organized and very very under the radar.

I guess the lesson here is, if you're going to start swinging, make sure you get your money's worth.

The above was typed in jest. In no way do advocate violence when dealing with these rubes.

(07-17-2013 01:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:42 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Two things that people should know about Westboro

1. They are most likely a Marxist organization designed to tarnish public opinion on Christianity.
2. They make their money off suing people who attack them. They encourage people to attack them. They gain financially.

1. I don't believe that for a minute.

2. Yeah, pretty much.

I wish there was some way I could make you believe it, because it is the truth. It's not much different that the plants at Tea Party rallies that hold up racist signs. Social Marxism is very organized and very very under the radar.

If you had proof, that'd be one thing, but sometimes a hateful bunch of rubes is just a hateful bunch of rubes.

I'm rather non-confrontation and tend to avoid violence at all costs. But if they pulled that at a funeral of a close friend or family member, I'm not 100% sure I'd be able to hold myself back either.

It's a dicey situation. Sure, what WBC is doing is "legal" (freedom of speech, after all) and physically attacking them for doing that is "illegal." But at what point does taunting and screwing with the emotional state of someone who just lost a loved one cross into an area where 'they're asking for it'?

(07-17-2013 01:49 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:42 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Two things that people should know about Westboro

1. They are most likely a Marxist organization designed to tarnish public opinion on Christianity.
2. They make their money off suing people who attack them. They encourage people to attack them. They gain financially.

1. I don't believe that for a minute.

2. Yeah, pretty much.

I wish there was some way I could make you believe it, because it is the truth. It's not much different that the plants at Tea Party rallies that hold up racist signs. Social Marxism is very organized and very very under the radar.

If you had proof, that'd be one thing, but sometimes a hateful bunch of rubes is just a hateful bunch of rubes.

The proof is that they are part of a bigger social movement. They want you to be outraged. They want you to equate them to all of Christianity. It's part of the divide and conquer agenda. It's not even a conspiracy. It's right out in the open for anyone who wants to see what is really happening.

(07-17-2013 01:52 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:49 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:42 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Two things that people should know about Westboro

1. They are most likely a Marxist organization designed to tarnish public opinion on Christianity.
2. They make their money off suing people who attack them. They encourage people to attack them. They gain financially.

1. I don't believe that for a minute.

2. Yeah, pretty much.

I wish there was some way I could make you believe it, because it is the truth. It's not much different that the plants at Tea Party rallies that hold up racist signs. Social Marxism is very organized and very very under the radar.

If you had proof, that'd be one thing, but sometimes a hateful bunch of rubes is just a hateful bunch of rubes.

The proof is that they are part of a bigger social movement. They want you to be outraged. They want you to equate them to all of Christianity. It's part of the divide and conquer agenda. It's not even a conspiracy. It's right out in the open for anyone who wants to see what is really happening.

That's not proof.

(07-17-2013 01:51 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  I'm rather non-confrontation and tend to avoid violence at all costs. But if they pulled that at a funeral of a close friend or family member, I'm not 100% sure I'd be able to hold myself back either.

It's a dicey situation. Sure, what WBC is doing is "legal" (freedom of speech, after all) and physically attacking them for doing that is "illegal." But at what point does taunting and screwing with the emotional state of someone who just lost a loved one cross into an area where 'they're asking for it'?

The worst thing you can do is get mad at them. That is what they want. The only way to take away their power is ban them from protesting funerals and ignore their rants in the media. The media could destroy them if they just ignored them...but Westboro is part of the media agenda. They are one in the same.

(07-17-2013 01:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  They are constantly in court getting settlements off people that lose their cool and attack them. They are banned from Oklahoma after they almost got killed by a local biker club at a funeral for a vet.

The Biker Club never did anything to them.. the bikers showed up and stood there as a barricade, while the WBClowns tried to get within a certain range, and scared off the WBC-nuts.

I don't even think the WBC showed up for that original planned protest when they found out about the Biker Club promising to be there (and the Bikers did show up).

(07-17-2013 01:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:52 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:49 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:42 PM)Smaug Wrote:  1. I don't believe that for a minute.

2. Yeah, pretty much.

I wish there was some way I could make you believe it, because it is the truth. It's not much different that the plants at Tea Party rallies that hold up racist signs. Social Marxism is very organized and very very under the radar.

If you had proof, that'd be one thing, but sometimes a hateful bunch of rubes is just a hateful bunch of rubes.

The proof is that they are part of a bigger social movement. They want you to be outraged. They want you to equate them to all of Christianity. It's part of the divide and conquer agenda. It's not even a conspiracy. It's right out in the open for anyone who wants to see what is really happening.

That's not proof.

How do you prove someone or something is Marxist? There is not a club. You have understand what Marxism is, the classic symptoms and avenues of Marxism and the true agenda. That's why it is so easy to implement. Anyone who calls out the agenda is labeled a conspiracy theorist. I guarantee you they are part of a bigger agenda.

(07-17-2013 01:57 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  They are constantly in court getting settlements off people that lose their cool and attack them. They are banned from Oklahoma after they almost got killed by a local biker club at a funeral for a vet.

The Biker Club never did anything to them.. the bikers showed up and stood there as a barricade, while the WBClowns tried to get within a certain range, and scared off the WBC-nuts.

I don't even think the WBC showed up for that original planned protest when they found out about the Biker Club promising to be there (and the Bikers did show up).

They are attacked on a regular basis by people who lose it and fall for the scam.

http://westboro-church.blogspot.com/2011...d-and.html

(07-17-2013 01:57 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:52 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:49 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I wish there was some way I could make you believe it, because it is the truth. It's not much different that the plants at Tea Party rallies that hold up racist signs. Social Marxism is very organized and very very under the radar.

If you had proof, that'd be one thing, but sometimes a hateful bunch of rubes is just a hateful bunch of rubes.

The proof is that they are part of a bigger social movement. They want you to be outraged. They want you to equate them to all of Christianity. It's part of the divide and conquer agenda. It's not even a conspiracy. It's right out in the open for anyone who wants to see what is really happening.

That's not proof.

How do you prove someone or something is Marxist? There is not a club. You have understand what Marxism is, the classic symptoms and avenues of Marxism and the true agenda. That's why it is so easy to implement. Anyone who calls out the agenda is labeled a conspiracy theorist. I guarantee you they are part of a bigger agenda.

(07-17-2013 01:35 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 11:48 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Motown, while I understand your point... would you prefer they be holding the "pro gay marriage" signs, or would you prefer their parents left them at home, or worse, saw half naked mom and horse head in a speedo dad come home from "a day at work"?

Either one is much preferable to them holding a "God Hates F*gs" sign (which were the 6 and 7 year olds I was referring to).

My point is that not having them hold that sign has no bearing on whether or not they are being taught to believe/exposed to other bad things

I'd prefer the parents be upfront with their kids about their lunacy rather than pretend that they don't exist while demonstrating it. Generally speaking, kids who are "forced" to do things by their parents end up hating it. Some of those kids will read those other signs and say... hey... yeah... that's what I read in the bible, too.

(07-17-2013 02:01 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:57 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:52 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:49 PM)Smaug Wrote:  If you had proof, that'd be one thing, but sometimes a hateful bunch of rubes is just a hateful bunch of rubes.

The proof is that they are part of a bigger social movement. They want you to be outraged. They want you to equate them to all of Christianity. It's part of the divide and conquer agenda. It's not even a conspiracy. It's right out in the open for anyone who wants to see what is really happening.

That's not proof.

How do you prove someone or something is Marxist? There is not a club. You have understand what Marxism is, the classic symptoms and avenues of Marxism and the true agenda. That's why it is so easy to implement. Anyone who calls out the agenda is labeled a conspiracy theorist. I guarantee you they are part of a bigger agenda.

I am dead serious.

(07-17-2013 01:51 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  I'm rather non-confrontation and tend to avoid violence at all costs. But if they pulled that at a funeral of a close friend or family member, I'm not 100% sure I'd be able to hold myself back either.

It's a dicey situation. Sure, what WBC is doing is "legal" (freedom of speech, after all) and physically attacking them for doing that is "illegal." But at what point does taunting and screwing with the emotional state of someone who just lost a loved one cross into an area where 'they're asking for it'?

They were here in Dallas a couple years ago. I thought about running them over like the Blues Brothers did to the Illinois Nazis. I had to work that day and probably wouldn't have done it anyway.

But it's fun to imagine.

I hate Illinois Nazis.

(07-17-2013 02:10 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I am dead serious.

Heh, okay. I'm going to continue to think they're just a bunch of hateful rubes.

(07-17-2013 02:15 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 02:10 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I am dead serious.

Heh, okay. I'm going to continue to think they're just a bunch of hateful rubes.

Oh they are, but their hatred is directed somewhere besides their visible message. BTW Occupy is also a Marxist movement. So is the anti war on women and the anti war on homosexual movements.

(07-17-2013 02:18 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 02:15 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 02:10 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I am dead serious.

Heh, okay. I'm going to continue to think they're just a bunch of hateful rubes.

Oh they are, but their hatred is directed somewhere besides their visible message. BTW Occupy is also a Marxist movement. So is the anti war on women and the anti war on homosexual movements.

leave it to you to put wbc in the same group as those two movements. fyi i hate occupy ws as well, but mentioning them in the same sentence as wbc is insane

(07-17-2013 02:26 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 02:18 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 02:15 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 02:10 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I am dead serious.

Heh, okay. I'm going to continue to think they're just a bunch of hateful rubes.

Oh they are, but their hatred is directed somewhere besides their visible message. BTW Occupy is also a Marxist movement. So is the anti war on women and the anti war on homosexual movements.

leave it to you to put wbc in the same group as those two movements. fyi i hate occupy ws as well, but mentioning them in the same sentence as wbc is insane

It's all part of the same agenda John. It's all theatrics.