1 - 20 Weeks is the benchmark in 30 US states and a good number of European nations.

2 - Abortions do sometimes have medical complications. Should the person who performs the abortion have privlidges at a hospital or are women getting abortions only "patients" while the doctor is performing an abortion

The Texas bill gives abortion doctors a 30 mile radius. And they don't have to be able to do abortions at the hospital just be their patients doctor.

3 - Ambulitory standards. Is it wrong to require a place that performs a surgical procedures to meet the standards of practice you might get from an ambulance?

Is this really something unattainable?

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/WorkArea/lin...8589936673

ive already mentioned this multiple times on the other thread. the texas bill has 4 main parts......you only mentioned 3......

the 4th part practically bans all forms of abortion inducing medication........

but yeah....this bill is all about safety & womens rights

(07-15-2013 12:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ive already mentioned this multiple times on the other thread. the texas bill has 4 main parts......you only mentioned 3......

the 4th part practically bans all forms of abortion inducing medication........

but yeah....this bill is all about safety & womens rights

So it's the drugs you have a problem with? Why?

And when the hospital in the area refuses to give the doctor priviledges? That is the main issue.

(07-15-2013 12:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ive already mentioned this multiple times on the other thread. the texas bill has 4 main parts......you only mentioned 3......

the 4th part practically bans all forms of abortion inducing medication........

but yeah....this bill is all about safety & womens rights

No it did not the Democrats attempted to amend the Bill to expand current options. That amendment was rejected.

(07-15-2013 12:48 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  And when the hospital in the area refuses to give the doctor priviledges? That is the main issue.

Then the hospital can lose it's accreditation.. You do know thay are answerable for whom the grant/deny access to..

(07-15-2013 12:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ive already mentioned this multiple times on the other thread. the texas bill has 4 main parts......you only mentioned 3......

the 4th part practically bans all forms of abortion inducing medication........

but yeah....this bill is all about safety & womens rights

So it's the drugs you have a problem with? Why?

anytime politics/religion dictates the direction of science or medicine.....the general public losses every single time

(07-15-2013 12:50 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:48 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  And when the hospital in the area refuses to give the doctor priviledges? That is the main issue.

Then the hospital can lose it's accreditation.. You do know thay are answerable for whom the grant/deny access to..

are all hospitals in texas legally required to give abortion doctors privileges of they ask for it?

(07-15-2013 12:50 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ive already mentioned this multiple times on the other thread. the texas bill has 4 main parts......you only mentioned 3......

the 4th part practically bans all forms of abortion inducing medication........

but yeah....this bill is all about safety & womens rights

So it's the drugs you have a problem with? Why?

anytime politics/religion dictates the direction of science or medicine.....the general public losses every single time

What is so advanced about abortion inducing drugs? What scientific breakthrough are you worried will be hindered by not administering this drug?

well since "ambulatory" has absolutely zero to do with an ambulance in this context of the word, I'm going to ignore this thread because you are an idiot.

(07-15-2013 12:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:50 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ive already mentioned this multiple times on the other thread. the texas bill has 4 main parts......you only mentioned 3......

the 4th part practically bans all forms of abortion inducing medication........

but yeah....this bill is all about safety & womens rights

So it's the drugs you have a problem with? Why?

anytime politics/religion dictates the direction of science or medicine.....the general public losses every single time

What is so advanced about abortion inducing drugs? What scientific breakthrough are you worried will be hindered by not administering this drug?

We could have moon colonies by now if we had more abortions....

(07-15-2013 12:52 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:50 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:48 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  And when the hospital in the area refuses to give the doctor priviledges? That is the main issue.

Then the hospital can lose it's accreditation.. You do know thay are answerable for whom the grant/deny access to..

are all hospitals in texas legally required to give abortion doctors privileges of they ask for it?

Hospitals in Texas are accredited by the Joint Commission on Accreditation of Health Care. If you want your doctors to be able to have malpractice, if you want loans for new equipment, if you want to function as a hospital you need to be accredited.

All of these agencies look at both the rights granted and denied by hospitals.

(07-15-2013 12:50 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ive already mentioned this multiple times on the other thread. the texas bill has 4 main parts......you only mentioned 3......

the 4th part practically bans all forms of abortion inducing medication........

but yeah....this bill is all about safety & womens rights

So it's the drugs you have a problem with? Why?

anytime politics/religion dictates the direction of science or medicine.....the general public losses every single time

Which part of this bill is religious?

(07-15-2013 12:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:50 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ive already mentioned this multiple times on the other thread. the texas bill has 4 main parts......you only mentioned 3......

the 4th part practically bans all forms of abortion inducing medication........

but yeah....this bill is all about safety & womens rights

So it's the drugs you have a problem with? Why?

anytime politics/religion dictates the direction of science or medicine.....the general public losses every single time

What is so advanced about abortion inducing drugs? What scientific breakthrough are you worried will be hindered by not administering this drug?

abortion inducing.....they are not advanced they have been around for a while. morning after pill is considered an abortion inducing drug. other drugs are given out by clinics to someone whose planning on getting an abortion. their designed to make getting an abortion easier/safer.

its not about just this law specifically, but any law where politics/religion dictates this kind of stuff. the biggest example AIDS/HIV. politicians hindered its research & public awareness campaigns back in the days of GRID

Plan B is NOT AN ABORTION INDUCING DRUG. It specifically IS NOT that.

(07-15-2013 01:00 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:50 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ive already mentioned this multiple times on the other thread. the texas bill has 4 main parts......you only mentioned 3......

the 4th part practically bans all forms of abortion inducing medication........

but yeah....this bill is all about safety & womens rights

So it's the drugs you have a problem with? Why?

anytime politics/religion dictates the direction of science or medicine.....the general public losses every single time

Which part of this bill is religious?

oh i dunno....the part where the anti abortion movement is fueled by religion. (not the entire movement, but the vast majority)

(07-15-2013 01:06 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 01:00 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:50 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ive already mentioned this multiple times on the other thread. the texas bill has 4 main parts......you only mentioned 3......

the 4th part practically bans all forms of abortion inducing medication........

but yeah....this bill is all about safety & womens rights

So it's the drugs you have a problem with? Why?

anytime politics/religion dictates the direction of science or medicine.....the general public losses every single time

Which part of this bill is religious?

oh i dunno....the part where the anti abortion movement is fueled by religion. (not the entire movement, but the vast majority)

wow...you didn't even try to answer the question.

Which part, specifically?

(07-15-2013 12:58 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  well since "ambulatory" has absolutely zero to do with an ambulance in this context of the word, I'm going to ignore this thread because you are an idiot.

Funny I thought I posted the Texas standards. Run away little lamb you can't admit this is a reasonable bill..

(07-15-2013 01:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:50 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ive already mentioned this multiple times on the other thread. the texas bill has 4 main parts......you only mentioned 3......

the 4th part practically bans all forms of abortion inducing medication........

but yeah....this bill is all about safety & womens rights

So it's the drugs you have a problem with? Why?

anytime politics/religion dictates the direction of science or medicine.....the general public losses every single time

What is so advanced about abortion inducing drugs? What scientific breakthrough are you worried will be hindered by not administering this drug?

abortion inducing.....they are not advanced they have been around for a while. morning after pill is considered an abortion inducing drug. other drugs are given out by clinics to someone whose planning on getting an abortion. their designed to make getting an abortion easier/safer.

its not about just this law specifically, but any law where politics/religion dictates this kind of stuff. the biggest example AIDS/HIV. politicians hindered its research & public awareness campaigns back in the days of GRID

What? So you are saying it's a slippery slope? I'm not seeing the religious aspect either.

(07-15-2013 01:09 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-15-2013 12:58 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  well since "ambulatory" has absolutely zero to do with an ambulance in this context of the word, I'm going to ignore this thread because you are an idiot.

Funny I thought I posted the Texas standards. Run away little lamb you can't admit this is a reasonable bill..

Exactly, it doesn't limit anything. It just makes it safer.