(07-03-2013 01:15 AM)NJRedMan Wrote: Dude, you are not one of us. You are a Fresno fan. I don't care if your daughter goes to Butler, you have zero idea what you're talking about when you talk about this league. We WENT to these schools and have been involved with them for YEARS and have played each other for DECADES. We understand how our schools think and act.
Did someone from Wichita steal your girlfriend? Seriously you can't even reasonably consider the data points. I haven't said Wichita State is a slam dunk but given we already invited Creighton they have to be considered especially given a final four run.
(07-03-2013 01:15 AM)NJRedMan Wrote: As for your "facts". It's quicker and easier to get to Omaha from St. Louis than it is to get to Wichita from Omaha. Thats a fact. Wichita has NOTHING IN COMMON with the Big East members.
That is a fact based on what? Your opinion? Last I checked Google showed the drive from Omaha to Wichita much shorter. No one will fly from either Omaha to St. Louis or Omaha to Wichita. You may not like it but it is true
(07-03-2013 01:15 AM)NJRedMan Wrote: Saint Louis just won the regular season and tournament championships of the A-10 which was a MUCH harder conference than the MVC. They had to beat Xavier, Butler, VCU, LaSalle, Temple, UMass, Charlotte and St. Joe's. They dominated a superior conference.
Dude your really comparing a A-10 Championship with a final four run? Not to mention that championship with done with players recruited by a coach that is no longer living. Lots of questions still with Saint Louis and this transition.
These doesn't even include total sports strength where Wichita State finished 54 in Director's cup standings and St Louis finished 132.
(07-03-2013 01:15 AM)NJRedMan Wrote: Oh and NO F'IN WAY does Fox push for Wichita over Saint Louis. Wichita is a truck stop compared to St. Louis. (No offense to the good folks of Kansas) St. Louis is the #21 DMA and Wichita is #66.
http://www.tvb.org/measurement/131627
Thats a FACT.
First thanks for finally using some numbers but Fox looks at in-season basketball ratings. Yes, St Louis is a bigger market but it is also a baseball and football town and not a basketball town. Unlike Wichita and Kansas in general which is a huge basketball market.
The basketball ratings for Wichita last year was .157 over 7 games
The basketball ratings for St. Louis last year was .083 over 6 games
Given Wichita States final four run those ratings are likely to go up so if you are Fox which do you prefer? How is that enhanced by the fact that Majerus in no longer at St. Louis.
That doesn't mean that institutional fit won't trump all of the above. Clearly it might and I am not trashing St. Louis as I would like to see them go to 14 and add both. But I don't think they will go to 14. In determining who should be the western team among 11/12, I doubt I am the only one looking at these numbers and debating whether St. Louis or Wichita State is the better pick for 12.