Looks like Obama has another phone and leak scandal to deal with.

Quote:SAN FRANCISCO/NEW YORK, June 5 (Reuters) - The U.S. National Security Agency is collecting telephone records of millions of Verizon Communications customers, according to a secret court order obtained and published by the Guardian newspaper's website.

The order marked "Top Secret" and issued by the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court directs Verizon's Business Network Services Inc and Verizon Business Services units to hand over electronic data including all calling records on an "ongoing, daily basis" until the order expires on July 19, 2013.

The order can be seen at:

Signed by Judge Roger Vinson at the request of the FBI, the order covers each phone number dialed by all customers and location and routing data, along with the duration and frequency of the calls, but not the contents of the communications.

The disclosure comes as the Obama administration is already under fire on other privacy and First Amendment issues. In particular, it is being criticized for a search of Associated Press journalists' calling records and the emails of a Fox television reporter in leak inquiries.

Officials at the White House and the NSA declined immediate comment. Verizon spokesman Ed McFadden declined to comment.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/0...ews&rpc=43

Fourth Amendment, Schmourth Amendment.

Totally over broad request. Verizon might get in trouble for not challenging the Order.

Hasn't this been known awhile?

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03...acenter/5/

And in a sense, sort of the theme that comes through repeatedly for me is that 9/11 changed everything. It changed the way we think about threats to the United States. It changed about our recognition of our vulnerabilities. It changed in terms of the kind of national security strategy we need to pursue, in terms of guaranteeing the safety and security of the American people.

And I’m not sure everybody has made that transition yet. I think there are a number of people out there who hope we can go back to pre-9/11 days and that somehow 9/11 was an aberration. It happened one time; it’ll never happen again. But the president and I don’t have that luxury. You know, we begin every day reading the intelligence reports from the CIA and the FBI on the nature of the threat that’s out there, on the plotting by al-Qaeda members and related groups to launch attacks against the United States and contemplating the possibility of an attack against the U.S. with far deadlier weapons than anything we’ve seen to date. So on the one hand, I’m sure everybody wants to get back to normal, and we have in many respects. But on the other hand, we all have to recognize as a nation that 9/11 changed a great deal in our lives. ~ Richard Bruce Cheney, 9/14/2003

Pssst. Tom.

Richard Bruce Cheney is off doing whatever it is old veeps do, and has been for the last FIVE years.

O is on our dime now.

Tom got the memo. Today's talking points are to paint this as an extension of what Bush did. Do not go into details, because they will shred you with facts on HOW it is different.

Thank goodness we will have Susan Rice to once again set the record straight on what really happened.

(06-06-2013 03:27 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Tom got the memo. Today's talking points are to paint this as an extension of what Bush did. Do not go into details, because they will shred you with facts on HOW it is different.

Even if it were exactly the same as W's, we've listened to how evil he was enough from that side of the aisle that you'd think they'd have elected someone different.

(06-06-2013 03:31 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Thank goodness we will have Susan Rice to once again set the record straight on what really happened.

Yeah, thank goodness for all the people like Susan Rice that we can depend upon. Agree entirely.

So, what's your guys opinion of Colin Powell?

(06-06-2013 04:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So, what's your guys opinion of Colin Powell?

Not good.

(06-06-2013 03:25 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Pssst. Tom.

Richard Bruce Cheney is off doing whatever it is old veeps do, and has been for the last FIVE years.

O is on our dime now.

Question, how many old veeps still question nearly every thing done by the following administration well into its second term?

And Pssst...I was against the wiretapping then and I still am now. But don't let that get in the way of your obsession.

(06-06-2013 04:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 03:25 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Pssst. Tom.

Richard Bruce Cheney is off doing whatever it is old veeps do, and has been for the last FIVE years.

O is on our dime now.

Question, how many old veeps still question nearly every thing done by the following administration well into its second term?

And Pssst...I was against the wiretapping then and I still am now. But don't let that get in the way of your obsession.

Answer: I don't know, and really don't care.

And Pssst...So why aren't you outraged that THIS president is doing it?

And "obsession"? You'd be surprised (and probably disappointed) at how little I think about you.

Personally think Bush the younger has done a good job of just shutting the heck up.
Chaney, not so much, but he has some interesting things to say sometimes.

(06-06-2013 04:43 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 04:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 03:25 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Pssst. Tom.

Richard Bruce Cheney is off doing whatever it is old veeps do, and has been for the last FIVE years.

O is on our dime now.

Question, how many old veeps still question nearly every thing done by the following administration well into its second term?

And Pssst...I was against the wiretapping then and I still am now. But don't let that get in the way of your obsession.

Answer: I don't know, and really don't care.

And Pssst...So why aren't you outraged that THIS president is doing it?

And "obsession"? You'd be surprised (and probably disappointed) at how little I think about you.

Then stop the ridiculous comments on every damned thing I post!

What the hell does getting outraged do for you? We're at the mercy of our elected officials. Yeah it sucks sometimes, but we don't live in North Korea ya know.

This is the reason the NSA datacenter is being built in Utah. They want to be able to connect a person's phone # to everyone he is in contact with and do it like google maintains it's database of searches. Now they tell us that it is not wiretapping because they don't record the conversations. So if you believe that...... I got a bridge........

Color me Outraged. Another over reach by judicial officials

Stellar Wind blows strong.
In more ways than one.

Just another win for Big Brother.