http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...brady-hoke

What comes after the name calling....a meeting on the playground after school?

he didnt call them "yellow"?

Stupid.

Lol, so says Brady Hoke, the coach with the OOC schedule of Central Michigan, Akron, and UConn.

In 2014, Michigan goes big time with games against Appalachian State, Miami of Ohio, and Utah.

Someone should educate him that Notre Dame has played Michigan State a lot longer than Michigan and they really have not had any issues with the series like they have had with Michigan.

Besides, David Brandon, Michigan's AD, made noise a couple of years ago about ending the series. He flat out talked about canceling it.

Hoke should have talked to his boss first before making an ass out of himself.

http://collegefootball.about.com/b/2011/...ivalry.htm


Michigan cancelled the 2018 and 2019 games first, anyway. Were they scared? Is that why they did it?


http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-footba...tate-unlv/


It was a contractual matter for ND in September, 2012. The series was going to automatically roll over to another three game set if it wasn't ended when it was.

I guess that ND was "scared" when they set up series with Texas and Oklahoma, too?


Everyone knew this series would be interrupted. Like I said, Dave Brandon talked about the series being in danger back in 2011.

Michigan is just mad that ND beat them to the punch (after the 2018-19 "hiatus" by the Skunkbears). They don't like that this time, they just got canned first.

The contract was going to be canceled, either because of the B1G going to nine conference games or the ACC provisions of ND's schedules going forward or both.

One of the teams was going to cancel right before hosting a game, which would mean that team would get the last home game in the series.

They're just pissed ND did it before they could. Too damn bad.

Someone should ask Hoke why Michigan refused to play ND from 1910-41 and from 1943-1978. Was Michigan "scared"?

Hoke's bloviations are baseless and meaningless.

Besides, Michigan State has beaten Michigan 4 out of 5. Perhaps, ND is keeping the better team?

(05-13-2013 10:40 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Lol, so says Brady Hoke, the coach with the OOC schedule of Central Michigan, Akron, and UConn.

In 2014, Michigan goes big time with games against Appalachian State, Miami of Ohio, and Utah.

Someone should educate him that Notre Dame has played Michigan State a lot longer than Michigan and they really have not had any issues with the series like they have had with Michigan.

Besides, David Brandon, Michigan's AD, made noise a couple of years ago about ending the series. He flat out talked about canceling it.

Hoke should have talked to his boss first before making an ass out of himself.

http://collegefootball.about.com/b/2011/...ivalry.htm


Michigan cancelled the 2018 and 2019 games first, anyway. Were they scared? Is that why they did it?


http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-footba...tate-unlv/


It was a contractual matter for ND in September, 2012. The series was going to automatically roll over to another three game set if it wasn't ended when it was.

I guess that ND was "scared" when they set up series with Texas and Oklahoma, too?


Everyone knew this series would be interrupted. Like I said, Dave Brandon talked about the series being in danger back in 2011.

Michigan is just mad that ND beat them to the punch (after the 2018-19 "hiatus" by the Skunkbears). They don't like that this time, they just got canned first.

The contract was going to be canceled, either because of the B1G going to nine conference games or the ACC provisions of ND's schedules going forward or both.

One of the teams was going to cancel right before hosting a game, which would mean that team would get the last home game in the series.

They're just pissed ND did it before they could. Too damn bad.

Someone should ask Hoke why Michigan refused to play ND from 1910-41 and from 1943-1978. Was Michigan "scared"?

Hoke's bloviations are baseless and meaningless.

Besides, Michigan State has beaten Michigan 4 out of 5. Perhaps, ND is keeping the better team?

I am not too sure that Appalachian State is a smart move by Michigan. We know how that turned out before...

It would only have merit if ND didn't consistently have one of the toughest schedules in the country. How could you say ND is scared when they play USC, Stanford and Michigan State every year and have upcoming games/series with Texas and Oklahoma? The truth is the ACC requirement creates some scheduling difficulties and Michigan would always be the first to go out of the Big Ten teams. Purdue and Michigan State are more important to keep on the schedule for ND because of geographical and historical reasons.

(05-13-2013 10:40 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Lol, so says Brady Hoke, the coach with the OOC schedule of Central Michigan, Akron, and UConn.

In 2014, Michigan goes big time with games against Appalachian State, Miami of Ohio, and Utah.

Someone should educate him that Notre Dame has played Michigan State a lot longer than Michigan and they really have not had any issues with the series like they have had with Michigan.

Besides, David Brandon, Michigan's AD, made noise a couple of years ago about ending the series. He flat out talked about canceling it.

Hoke should have talked to his boss first before making an ass out of himself.

http://collegefootball.about.com/b/2011/...ivalry.htm


Michigan cancelled the 2018 and 2019 games first, anyway. Were they scared? Is that why they did it?


http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-footba...tate-unlv/


It was a contractual matter for ND in September, 2012. The series was going to automatically roll over to another three game set if it wasn't ended when it was.

I guess that ND was "scared" when they set up series with Texas and Oklahoma, too?


Everyone knew this series would be interrupted. Like I said, Dave Brandon talked about the series being in danger back in 2011.

Michigan is just mad that ND beat them to the punch (after the 2018-19 "hiatus" by the Skunkbears). They don't like that this time, they just got canned first.

The contract was going to be canceled, either because of the B1G going to nine conference games or the ACC provisions of ND's schedules going forward or both.

One of the teams was going to cancel right before hosting a game, which would mean that team would get the last home game in the series.

They're just pissed ND did it before they could. Too damn bad.

Someone should ask Hoke why Michigan refused to play ND from 1910-41 and from 1943-1978. Was Michigan "scared"?

Hoke's bloviations are baseless and meaningless.

Besides, Michigan State has beaten Michigan 4 out of 5. Perhaps, ND is keeping the better team?

Nothing could ruin a conference's strength perception faster than having one of its two champions defeated by a non conference foe. Everybody is going on and on about 9 conference games and Strength of Schedule for the coming playoffs. All of these conferences (SEC included) will add a strong non-conference game to their schedule. But you just watch who the top two of each conference choose. They will take a fading big name, or a strong mid-range adversary for that slot, or weaker. No conference is going to want to risk the knock out punch to public perception by having one of their big dogs take it on the chin, especially early in the season.

If anyone is chicken here it is Michigan and the conference they represent. But I'm not casting a stone in their direction because there is a log in Alabama's eye as well. I doubt under the new system that either of them would risk a game against each other as they did previously. There is simply too much money riding on it. Notre Dame is on the upswing and their coach is one reason. The Irish are a team that could easily lay one on the chin of either of the Big 10's usual standard bearers. I would look for the Big 10 stalwarts to schedule a mid-level PAC team (not Oregon or Stanford).

I would look for Alabama to continue looking for an ACC challenger and not a contender. Alabama is not afraid of the opponent just of having a bad first game and ruining a season. Ditto for the Wolverines.

The PAC sent Oregon up against L.S.U. and the result was much less consideration the rest of the season. That won't happen again either.

L.S.U., Georgia, and Alabama will be much more conservative in a couple of years about who they play out of conference. Florida will always claim the F.S.U. game and South Carolina the Clemson game. I imagine Georgia will do the same with Tech.

When Saban speaks of playing only against upper tier teams I imagine the scheduling will be more carefully researched than ever before and that the Vanderbilts, Kansas's, Wake Forest's, Mississippi's, Kentucky's, Washington State's, Minnesota's, Indiana's, Purdue's, Colorado's, Utah's, B.C.'s and Illinois's of the world will have to beat the calling AD's off with a stick. Meanwhile the back offices of the Louisville's, Clemson's, Arkansas's, Oklahoma State's, N.C. State's, Texas A&M's, Washington's, and West Virginia's the phone will remain relatively quiet. They will be too dangerous for everyone's conference beauty to go out with. And it won't be about being afraid of playing them in football. It will be out of fear of missing out on a very big end of the season check.

Ohio State just cancelled with North Carolina.
Urban is not taking any chances.

(05-14-2013 07:55 AM)XLance Wrote:  Ohio State just cancelled with North Carolina.
Urban is not taking any chances.

Definitely going to load up the cupcake games like he did at UF.

Ohio State 2013 OOC schedule:
08/31 – Buffalo
09/07 – San Diego State
09/14 – at California
09/21 – Florida A&M

One decent P5 team and 3 cupcakes.

As for Michigan, I have friends from Michigan who now live in SC. They tell me to them Notre Dame was the #2 rival, even ahead of Michigan State (behind only Ohio State). However, my friends who are Notre Dame fans - particularly the ones from Indiana - tell me Michigan is just another good team to them. They see USC as #1 rival, with Michigan State, Stanford and Navy all clearly ahead of Michigan. I guess Coach Hoke is having a hard time accepting the fact that Notre Dame would rather play 5 games vs. ACC teams than to continue playing the Wolverines every year.

(05-14-2013 08:27 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Ohio State 2013 OOC schedule:
08/31 – Buffalo
09/07 – San Diego State
09/14 – at California
09/21 – Florida A&M

One decent P5 team and 3 cupcakes.

Cal will have a new coach ...........not much risk in playing the Golden Bears this year.

(05-14-2013 08:41 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-14-2013 08:27 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Ohio State 2013 OOC schedule:
08/31 – Buffalo
09/07 – San Diego State
09/14 – at California
09/21 – Florida A&M

One decent P5 team and 3 cupcakes.

Cal will have a new coach ...........not much risk in playing the Golden Bears this year.

I guess U.A.B. was too close for comfort last year.

(05-14-2013 08:11 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(05-14-2013 07:55 AM)XLance Wrote:  Ohio State just cancelled with North Carolina.
Urban is not taking any chances.

Definitely going to load up the cupcake games like he did at UF.

BURN

It's going to hurt Ohio State when it comes to the playoff selection criteria. SOS is supposed to be a part of the formula, and I doubt the B1G can rely on conference strength alone. They don't have that kind of strength from top to bottom, like the SEC...

June Jones called Texas "afraid" for canceling a game at Hawaii. It didn't matter. Texas still didn't show.

The yeller-bellies.

(05-14-2013 10:55 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  June Jones called Texas "afraid" for canceling a game at Hawaii. It didn't matter. Texas still didn't show.

The yeller-bellies.

A trip to Hawaii is not on my personal" let's just blot that one out" meter...

(05-14-2013 09:47 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  It's going to hurt Ohio State when it comes to the playoff selection criteria. SOS is supposed to be a part of the formula, and I doubt the B1G can rely on conference strength alone. They don't have that kind of strength from top to bottom, like the SEC...

Ohio St and UGA also cancelled their series. I will take teams being overlooked for the postseason playoff dues to SOS before the football power start changing their schedule.

Sounds like "some" B1G teams aren't happy with ND. Did Adam Rittenberg contribute to this piece?

There's psychology at work here.

Michigan expects to beat Sparty, not make a series out of it. But a loss to Sparty hurts more than to ND.

Notre Dame doesn't want to acknowledge that the Big Ten exists, which precludes admitting a rivalry. ND also didn't get a Hoke "countdown clock" along with OSU and MSU -- how insulting is that????

Haden says his USC guys don't see the game as a huge rivalry, yet ND claims it as so. Go figure.

At least Hoke didn't say they don't "have the chest" for it

(05-14-2013 08:30 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  As for Michigan, I have friends from Michigan who now live in SC. They tell me to them Notre Dame was the #2 rival, even ahead of Michigan State (behind only Ohio State). However, my friends who are Notre Dame fans - particularly the ones from Indiana - tell me Michigan is just another good team to them. They see USC as #1 rival, with Michigan State, Stanford and Navy all clearly ahead of Michigan. I guess Coach Hoke is having a hard time accepting the fact that Notre Dame would rather play 5 games vs. ACC teams than to continue playing the Wolverines every year.