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RE: "Changing landscape of college football leaves Cincinnati behind"....
(05-09-2013 01:13 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 12:24 AM)Cougar Hippy Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:19 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  When ol' Air Raid tries to talk how bigtime his team is....well

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0-12

and you ******* were not one of the 12

well played.
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It's like we have been saying all along. With the exception of a minuscule amount of TV dollars the ones that defected are in the same pool of teams as we are. Enjoy.
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RE: "Changing landscape of college football leaves Cincinnati behind"....
(05-09-2013 08:22 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  It's like we have been saying all along. With the exception of a minuscule amount of TV dollars the ones that defected are in the same pool of teams as we are. Enjoy.

Dollars? Nope they aren't.

Average Budget
AAC......42 million
CUSA....25 million

Enjoy
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(05-09-2013 08:22 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  It's like we have been saying all along. With the exception of a minuscule amount of TV dollars the ones that defected are in the same pool of teams as we are. Enjoy.
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But uab would join the aac in 5 seconds flat if invited as would any cusa school
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RE: "Changing landscape of college football leaves Cincinnati behind"....
(05-09-2013 08:41 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 08:22 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  It's like we have been saying all along. With the exception of a minuscule amount of TV dollars the ones that defected are in the same pool of teams as we are. Enjoy.
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But uab would join the aac in 5 seconds flat if invited as would any cusa school

Nope. UAB will make its decisions based on the best interests of the university, not what makes the big-money boosters feel the most penile heft. The call will be made by VP of finance Richard Margison and athletic director Brian Mackin, subject to approval by President Ray Watts. The Trustees already granted permission to change conferences (during the proposed merger with the MWC). Margison, not being a fool, will not squander the university's funds to make a lateral conference move. It may sound strange, but there are still officials who understand the concept of "public trust."

But hey, whatever makes you feel good when you look down, feel free to believe it.
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RE: "Changing landscape of college football leaves Cincinnati behind"....
(05-09-2013 08:41 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 08:22 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  It's like we have been saying all along. With the exception of a minuscule amount of TV dollars the ones that defected are in the same pool of teams as we are. Enjoy.
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But uab would join the aac in 5 seconds flat if invited as would any cusa school

Yes and if one of their programs ever does emerge, AAC will just pick it off. CUSA is the AAC farm system.

As you can see from the numbers though it's mostly about money. If you are going anywhere you better get your budget up past 30 million and do it with far less student fee's.
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(05-09-2013 08:52 AM)58-56 Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 08:41 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 08:22 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  It's like we have been saying all along. With the exception of a minuscule amount of TV dollars the ones that defected are in the same pool of teams as we are. Enjoy.
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But uab would join the aac in 5 seconds flat if invited as would any cusa school

Nope. UAB will make its decisions based on the best interests of the university, not what makes the big-money boosters feel the most penile heft. The call will be made by VP of finance Richard Margison and athletic director Brian Mackin, subject to approval by President Ray Watts. The Trustees already granted permission to change conferences (during the proposed merger with the MWC). Margison, not being a fool, will not squander the university's funds to make a lateral conference move. It may sound strange, but there are still officials who understand the concept of "public trust."

But hey, whatever makes you feel good when you look down, feel free to believe it.

Lateral move. 03-lmfao Even if you tried to make that case, a rising tide lifts all ships. In 10 years it wont be close and if CUSA has a couple teams emerge the AAC will take them.

The schools in the non BCS with the best resources have joined together now and are far more committed. They will feed off of each others success while CUSA struggles to pay the bills and compete. Financially it's not even close or the potiental each conference has moving forward.
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He said TV dollars there jonesing, not budgets. Take time to read the post.
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(05-09-2013 08:52 AM)58-56 Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 08:41 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 08:22 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  It's like we have been saying all along. With the exception of a minuscule amount of TV dollars the ones that defected are in the same pool of teams as we are. Enjoy.
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But uab would join the aac in 5 seconds flat if invited as would any cusa school

Nope. UAB will make its decisions based on the best interests of the university, not what makes the big-money boosters feel the most penile heft. The call will be made by VP of finance Richard Margison and athletic director Brian Mackin, subject to approval by President Ray Watts. The Trustees already granted permission to change conferences (during the proposed merger with the MWC). Margison, not being a fool, will not squander the university's funds to make a lateral conference move. It may sound strange, but there are still officials who understand the concept of "public trust."

But hey, whatever makes you feel good when you look down, feel free to believe it.

Referring to "public trust" in the same sentence with Memphis Athletics under RC Johnson is an oxyMORON.
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(05-08-2013 10:45 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  funny how the ones leaving are saying the level of competition is better in AAC and yet they took two bottom feeders from CUSA in Tulane & Memphis

this illustrates another issue...CUSAs basketball identity is gone...we're more in line with the AAC schools.
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(05-09-2013 09:27 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  He said TV dollars there jonesing, not budgets. Take time to read the post.

There is a big correlation in money spent and success. The budgets are what really matter and TV is just one small part of the budget.
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Reading comprehension has never been one of his strong points.
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(05-08-2013 10:45 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  funny how the ones leaving are saying the level of competition is better in AAC and yet they took two bottom feeders from CUSA in Tulane & Memphis

this illustrates another issue...CUSAs basketball identity is gone...we're more in line with the AAC schools.

The seasons where Memphis has maintained Top 25 rankings for any sigificant period of time were accomplished by cheating coaches. Fact.
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(05-09-2013 08:52 AM)58-56 Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 08:41 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 08:22 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  It's like we have been saying all along. With the exception of a minuscule amount of TV dollars the ones that defected are in the same pool of teams as we are. Enjoy.
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But uab would join the aac in 5 seconds flat if invited as would any cusa school

Nope. UAB will make its decisions based on the best interests of the university, not what makes the big-money boosters feel the most penile heft. The call will be made by VP of finance Richard Margison and athletic director Brian Mackin, subject to approval by President Ray Watts. The Trustees already granted permission to change conferences (during the proposed merger with the MWC). Margison, not being a fool, will not squander the university's funds to make a lateral conference move. It may sound strange, but there are still officials who understand the concept of "public trust."

But hey, whatever makes you feel good when you look down, feel free to believe it.

It won't be an issue for UAB...so fret not
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(05-09-2013 10:39 AM)TG4 Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 10:14 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 10:45 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  funny how the ones leaving are saying the level of competition is better in AAC and yet they took two bottom feeders from CUSA in Tulane & Memphis

this illustrates another issue...CUSAs basketball identity is gone...we're more in line with the AAC schools.

The seasons where Memphis has maintained Top 25 rankings for any sigificant period of time were accomplished by cheating coaches. Fact.

Funny, I seem to remember memphis starting and finishing this last season ranked...
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(05-09-2013 07:43 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 06:34 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  According to Jonesing Cincy is in the promised land now.

Never said that, but of the non big 5 this is certainly the place to be. The teams in this conference have the much better resources and potiental.

The place to be in the Gof5 is the MWC not the AAC.

They have the best football brand outside the power conferences: Boise State. They have state flagship and land grand universities and for the most part they're the only game in town not the forgotten stepchild and the 648th choice in their TV markets which is what the AAC, C-USA, MAC and Sun Belt are.

I really hope UTEP goes back to where we really belong: the MWC. But until that happens, I'll enjoy our stay in C-USA.
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Somebody's jealous. At least Memphis didn't get dogged out by Ohio State's AD.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journ...twork.aspx

Here ^^^^^ you do the math and then explain exactly what there is to be jealous over? Please use facts and not biased presumptions.
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Boohoo. Cincy and USF ever being considered "bigtime" was one of the worst charades of the BCS era.
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(05-09-2013 03:03 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 07:43 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 06:34 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  According to Jonesing Cincy is in the promised land now.

Never said that, but of the non big 5 this is certainly the place to be. The teams in this conference have the much better resources and potiental.

The place to be in the Gof5 is the MWC not the AAC.

They have the best football brand outside the power conferences: Boise State. They have state flagship and land grand universities and for the most part they're the only game in town not the forgotten stepchild and the 648th choice in their TV markets which is what the AAC, C-USA, MAC and Sun Belt are.

I really hope UTEP goes back to where we really belong: the MWC. But until that happens, I'll enjoy our stay in C-USA.
Sagarin ratings do not match your statement.AAC in terms of Sagarin is the best of the rest on paper.
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(05-08-2013 10:55 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 10:45 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  funny how the ones leaving are saying the level of competition is better in AAC and yet they took two bottom feeders from CUSA in Tulane & Memphis

Tulane might be one, but they are committed to athletics, Memphis brings a top 25 BB program. Still better than, FIU, FAU, UTSA, ODU UNCC shall I keep going?

Honest question...by what measure? Comparing conference records for the most visible 3 sports since last realignment Memphis has had 4 seasons at or above .500 and 4 below in Football, 8 above in Basketball and 5 at or above and 3 below in Baseball. Football is not great, but is .500 or better half the time bottom feeding?

Will the Tigers be bottom feeders in the AAC? Could be. I will say when they're bad, they're BAD. Last year's 4-4 record includes 3 wins over remaining CUSA programs. IIRC, the only CUSA program to beat Memphis not moving on to the AAC is Marshall. Not world beating, but not bottom feeding either...IMO.
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