It will be interesting to see how they work it out. I would think ESPN would insist on a semi-final New Year's Eve. And they seem to want the games back to back, so that means 4 pm for the other semi-final.

Orange would be prime-time at most 8 out of 12 in that scenario.

Fiesta would be in a fix because they would have to be at noon 4 out of 12 years with a mountain time zone.

Maybe Fiesta always gets 4pm 12/31. In that scenario, Orange could be primetime 8 out of 12 12/31 and noon 12/31 4 out of 12. Cotton would get noon 1/1 8 out of 12, noon 12/31 4 out of 12 when a semi, while the ChickFilA bounces between the 2 noon slots and prime time 12/31.

Besides the semis, appears its still not all hashed out or updated yet.
Reports are saying peach is on nyd in yr 1, which is not on the grid.

(04-24-2013 03:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  There's a number of reason for this.
1- They are going to have both SF on the same day for competitive purposes.
2- They like having the SF a day earlier for an extra day of rest when possible for the championship games.
3- The Sugar will always be with the Rose and and Access bowl. 1 year it's a sf, the other 2 years, those are just bowl games and not sf.
4- not going to be 2nd or 3rd, because they want to retake NYE/NYD for bowls.

ESPN is not going to show a game on 4 pm (1 pm PT) NYE as a playoff game. People don't even get the day off in most businesses. It's a ratings killer. Once the networks realize this they will flex the games accordingly.

Cotton/Orange: That's probably the 8 pm 1 pm turnaround over the two days.

Sugar/Rose: NYD back to back

Peach/Fiesta: Tricky. The Peach will go 1 pm NYD because it's East coast. Fiesta is prime time the night before.

Why do this? Because NYD is the official last day of the Holidays and having prime time goes go into 12:30 or 1 am in the morning ET is going to kill ratings. Rose will preserve the late afternoon window. It will be like the Wild Card and Divisional round setups, where you have a game prime time on Saturday and an early window on Sunday for the NFL playoffs. I can't see them keeping 4 pm games on NYE.

(04-25-2013 06:29 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 03:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  There's a number of reason for this.
1- They are going to have both SF on the same day for competitive purposes.
2- They like having the SF a day earlier for an extra day of rest when possible for the championship games.
3- The Sugar will always be with the Rose and and Access bowl. 1 year it's a sf, the other 2 years, those are just bowl games and not sf.
4- not going to be 2nd or 3rd, because they want to retake NYE/NYD for bowls.

ESPN is not going to show a game on 4 pm (1 pm PT) NYE as a playoff game. People don't even get the day off in most businesses. It's a ratings killer. Once the networks realize this they will flex the games accordingly.

Cotton/Orange: That's probably the 8 pm 1 pm turnaround over the two days.

Sugar/Rose: NYD back to back

Peach/Fiesta: Tricky. The Peach will go 1 pm NYD because it's East coast. Fiesta is prime time the night before.

Why do this? Because NYD is the official last day of the Holidays and having prime time goes go into 12:30 or 1 am in the morning ET is going to kill ratings. Rose will preserve the late afternoon window. It will be like the Wild Card and Divisional round setups, where you have a game prime time on Saturday and an early window on Sunday for the NFL playoffs. I can't see them keeping 4 pm games on NYE.

There are definitely going to be 2 semi-finals on New Years Eve 8 of the 12 years. They've already said. It might be a mistake, but it's going to happen.

I'm OK with it in the end, simply because I like preserving the more traditional elements on New Years Day most years and kind of like the idea of 2 super days of bowls. That said, I get this probably isn't smart from an individual games rating perspective.

(04-25-2013 06:29 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 03:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  There's a number of reason for this.
1- They are going to have both SF on the same day for competitive purposes.
2- They like having the SF a day earlier for an extra day of rest when possible for the championship games.
3- The Sugar will always be with the Rose and and Access bowl. 1 year it's a sf, the other 2 years, those are just bowl games and not sf.
4- not going to be 2nd or 3rd, because they want to retake NYE/NYD for bowls.

ESPN is not going to show a game on 4 pm (1 pm PT) NYE as a playoff game. People don't even get the day off in most businesses. It's a ratings killer. Once the networks realize this they will flex the games accordingly.

Cotton/Orange: That's probably the 8 pm 1 pm turnaround over the two days.

Sugar/Rose: NYD back to back

Peach/Fiesta: Tricky. The Peach will go 1 pm NYD because it's East coast. Fiesta is prime time the night before.

Why do this? Because NYD is the official last day of the Holidays and having prime time goes go into 12:30 or 1 am in the morning ET is going to kill ratings. Rose will preserve the late afternoon window. It will be like the Wild Card and Divisional round setups, where you have a game prime time on Saturday and an early window on Sunday for the NFL playoffs. I can't see them keeping 4 pm games on NYE.

sorry but it's already happened.

I don't think you can discount the importance of having both sf on the same day. I mean, look at the NFL even. They don't have the conference championship games on different days. A HUGE reason is the competitive advantage of having an extra day between the sf and finals. And that's the NFL. In college with less time between the sf and final, that's even bigger.

(04-25-2013 07:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 06:29 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 03:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  There's a number of reason for this.
1- They are going to have both SF on the same day for competitive purposes.
2- They like having the SF a day earlier for an extra day of rest when possible for the championship games.
3- The Sugar will always be with the Rose and and Access bowl. 1 year it's a sf, the other 2 years, those are just bowl games and not sf.
4- not going to be 2nd or 3rd, because they want to retake NYE/NYD for bowls.

ESPN is not going to show a game on 4 pm (1 pm PT) NYE as a playoff game. People don't even get the day off in most businesses. It's a ratings killer. Once the networks realize this they will flex the games accordingly.

Cotton/Orange: That's probably the 8 pm 1 pm turnaround over the two days.

Sugar/Rose: NYD back to back

Peach/Fiesta: Tricky. The Peach will go 1 pm NYD because it's East coast. Fiesta is prime time the night before.

Why do this? Because NYD is the official last day of the Holidays and having prime time goes go into 12:30 or 1 am in the morning ET is going to kill ratings. Rose will preserve the late afternoon window. It will be like the Wild Card and Divisional round setups, where you have a game prime time on Saturday and an early window on Sunday for the NFL playoffs. I can't see them keeping 4 pm games on NYE.

sorry but it's already happened.

I don't think you can discount the importance of having both sf on the same day. I mean, look at the NFL even. They don't have the conference championship games on different days. A HUGE reason is the competitive advantage of having an extra day between the sf and finals. And that's the NFL. In college with less time between the sf and final, that's even bigger.

I suspect they are doing it more for marketing purposes than competitive. But I think the ratings will get them to change that eventually. It will be interesting to see if they can get people watching New Year's Eve as well.

(04-25-2013 08:17 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 07:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 06:29 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 03:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  There's a number of reason for this.
1- They are going to have both SF on the same day for competitive purposes.
2- They like having the SF a day earlier for an extra day of rest when possible for the championship games.
3- The Sugar will always be with the Rose and and Access bowl. 1 year it's a sf, the other 2 years, those are just bowl games and not sf.
4- not going to be 2nd or 3rd, because they want to retake NYE/NYD for bowls.

ESPN is not going to show a game on 4 pm (1 pm PT) NYE as a playoff game. People don't even get the day off in most businesses. It's a ratings killer. Once the networks realize this they will flex the games accordingly.

Cotton/Orange: That's probably the 8 pm 1 pm turnaround over the two days.

Sugar/Rose: NYD back to back

Peach/Fiesta: Tricky. The Peach will go 1 pm NYD because it's East coast. Fiesta is prime time the night before.

Why do this? Because NYD is the official last day of the Holidays and having prime time goes go into 12:30 or 1 am in the morning ET is going to kill ratings. Rose will preserve the late afternoon window. It will be like the Wild Card and Divisional round setups, where you have a game prime time on Saturday and an early window on Sunday for the NFL playoffs. I can't see them keeping 4 pm games on NYE.

sorry but it's already happened.

I don't think you can discount the importance of having both sf on the same day. I mean, look at the NFL even. They don't have the conference championship games on different days. A HUGE reason is the competitive advantage of having an extra day between the sf and finals. And that's the NFL. In college with less time between the sf and final, that's even bigger.

I suspect they are doing it more for marketing purposes than competitive. But I think the ratings will get them to change that eventually. It will be interesting to see if they can get people watching New Year's Eve as well.

I definitely think it's competitive. I think also, ESPN views all 6 games as a whole, not just an individual game. So, even if the ratings for 1 game were off, as a whole is much more important.

(04-25-2013 08:52 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 08:17 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 07:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 06:29 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 03:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  There's a number of reason for this.
1- They are going to have both SF on the same day for competitive purposes.
2- They like having the SF a day earlier for an extra day of rest when possible for the championship games.
3- The Sugar will always be with the Rose and and Access bowl. 1 year it's a sf, the other 2 years, those are just bowl games and not sf.
4- not going to be 2nd or 3rd, because they want to retake NYE/NYD for bowls.

ESPN is not going to show a game on 4 pm (1 pm PT) NYE as a playoff game. People don't even get the day off in most businesses. It's a ratings killer. Once the networks realize this they will flex the games accordingly.

Cotton/Orange: That's probably the 8 pm 1 pm turnaround over the two days.

Sugar/Rose: NYD back to back

Peach/Fiesta: Tricky. The Peach will go 1 pm NYD because it's East coast. Fiesta is prime time the night before.

Why do this? Because NYD is the official last day of the Holidays and having prime time goes go into 12:30 or 1 am in the morning ET is going to kill ratings. Rose will preserve the late afternoon window. It will be like the Wild Card and Divisional round setups, where you have a game prime time on Saturday and an early window on Sunday for the NFL playoffs. I can't see them keeping 4 pm games on NYE.

sorry but it's already happened.

I don't think you can discount the importance of having both sf on the same day. I mean, look at the NFL even. They don't have the conference championship games on different days. A HUGE reason is the competitive advantage of having an extra day between the sf and finals. And that's the NFL. In college with less time between the sf and final, that's even bigger.

I suspect they are doing it more for marketing purposes than competitive. But I think the ratings will get them to change that eventually. It will be interesting to see if they can get people watching New Year's Eve as well.

I definitely think it's competitive. I think also, ESPN views all 6 games as a whole, not just an individual game. So, even if the ratings for 1 game were off, as a whole is much more important.

Which is why having your best game when people are at work (NYE 4) or when many casual fans are partying (NYE prime time) is probably not going to work. Maybe they can change people's habits, but they aren't the NFL, so I doubt it.

(04-25-2013 10:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 08:52 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 08:17 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 07:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 06:29 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  ESPN is not going to show a game on 4 pm (1 pm PT) NYE as a playoff game. People don't even get the day off in most businesses. It's a ratings killer. Once the networks realize this they will flex the games accordingly.

Cotton/Orange: That's probably the 8 pm 1 pm turnaround over the two days.

Sugar/Rose: NYD back to back

Peach/Fiesta: Tricky. The Peach will go 1 pm NYD because it's East coast. Fiesta is prime time the night before.

Why do this? Because NYD is the official last day of the Holidays and having prime time goes go into 12:30 or 1 am in the morning ET is going to kill ratings. Rose will preserve the late afternoon window. It will be like the Wild Card and Divisional round setups, where you have a game prime time on Saturday and an early window on Sunday for the NFL playoffs. I can't see them keeping 4 pm games on NYE.

sorry but it's already happened.

I don't think you can discount the importance of having both sf on the same day. I mean, look at the NFL even. They don't have the conference championship games on different days. A HUGE reason is the competitive advantage of having an extra day between the sf and finals. And that's the NFL. In college with less time between the sf and final, that's even bigger.

I suspect they are doing it more for marketing purposes than competitive. But I think the ratings will get them to change that eventually. It will be interesting to see if they can get people watching New Year's Eve as well.

I definitely think it's competitive. I think also, ESPN views all 6 games as a whole, not just an individual game. So, even if the ratings for 1 game were off, as a whole is much more important.

Which is why having your best game when people are at work (NYE 4) or when many casual fans are partying (NYE prime time) is probably not going to work. Maybe they can change people's habits, but they aren't the NFL, so I doubt it.

Looking at the calendar, 3 of the 8 times in the 12 years where the sf are on 12/31- 12/31 falls either on a Friday or Saturday where everyone would be off. So the work aspect of things is extremely overrated. A LOT of folks have NYE off anyways, or work a half day.

(04-25-2013 10:28 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 10:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 08:52 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 08:17 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 07:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  sorry but it's already happened.

I don't think you can discount the importance of having both sf on the same day. I mean, look at the NFL even. They don't have the conference championship games on different days. A HUGE reason is the competitive advantage of having an extra day between the sf and finals. And that's the NFL. In college with less time between the sf and final, that's even bigger.

I suspect they are doing it more for marketing purposes than competitive. But I think the ratings will get them to change that eventually. It will be interesting to see if they can get people watching New Year's Eve as well.

I definitely think it's competitive. I think also, ESPN views all 6 games as a whole, not just an individual game. So, even if the ratings for 1 game were off, as a whole is much more important.

Which is why having your best game when people are at work (NYE 4) or when many casual fans are partying (NYE prime time) is probably not going to work. Maybe they can change people's habits, but they aren't the NFL, so I doubt it.

Looking at the calendar, 3 of the 8 times in the 12 years where the sf are on 12/31- 12/31 falls either on a Friday or Saturday where everyone would be off. So the work aspect of things is extremely overrated. A LOT of folks have NYE off anyways, or work a half day.

I've never had an office take that afternoon off. Some individuals, but never the office.

(04-25-2013 10:35 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 10:28 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 10:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 08:52 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 08:17 AM)bullet Wrote:  I suspect they are doing it more for marketing purposes than competitive. But I think the ratings will get them to change that eventually. It will be interesting to see if they can get people watching New Year's Eve as well.

I definitely think it's competitive. I think also, ESPN views all 6 games as a whole, not just an individual game. So, even if the ratings for 1 game were off, as a whole is much more important.

Which is why having your best game when people are at work (NYE 4) or when many casual fans are partying (NYE prime time) is probably not going to work. Maybe they can change people's habits, but they aren't the NFL, so I doubt it.

Looking at the calendar, 3 of the 8 times in the 12 years where the sf are on 12/31- 12/31 falls either on a Friday or Saturday where everyone would be off. So the work aspect of things is extremely overrated. A LOT of folks have NYE off anyways, or work a half day.

I've never had an office take that afternoon off. Some individuals, but never the office.

In 3/8 years, 12/31 falls on a Friday or Saturday, if it's a Friday, it's considered the New Years Holiday (since NYD is a Saturday).

(04-25-2013 10:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  Which is why having your best game when people are at work (NYE 4) or when many casual fans are partying (NYE prime time) is probably not going to work. Maybe they can change people's habits, but they aren't the NFL, so I doubt it.

Agreed. Because they won't want the late game on NYE to run too close to midnight ET, they'll start it at 7 pm ET. The game before that one probably starts at 3:30 pm ET and the early game at 12 noon ET.

In 2014-2015, the first year of this system, Dec. 31 is a Wednesday, so a lot of people will be working, maybe they cut out of the office a couple hours early... but that day ESPN will be showing three games, none of them playoff semifinals. The noon ET game will get TV ratings only slightly better than a Sun Bowl gets now on Dec. 31 (2.7 rating, 4.0 million viewers on 12/31/2012), the middle game will likely do about the same as this year's Chik-Fil-A (4.8 rating, 8.6 million viewers on 12/31/2012), and the late game will have ratings about the same as the middle game (or slightly better or worse depending on the teams playing in those games).

How many viewers are they losing by playing these games on 12/31 instead of prime time on 1/2, 1/3, or 1/4? A lot. This year's Sugar Bowl on 1/2 had a 6.2 rating, 10.1 million viewers; Fiesta Bowl on 1/3 had 7.4 and 12.3 million viewers; Cotton Bowl on 1/4 had 7.2 and 11.9 million viewers.

Source for TV ratings: http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2013/01/...he-charts/

(04-25-2013 10:56 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 10:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  Which is why having your best game when people are at work (NYE 4) or when many casual fans are partying (NYE prime time) is probably not going to work. Maybe they can change people's habits, but they aren't the NFL, so I doubt it.

Agreed. Because they won't want the late game on NYE to run too close to midnight ET, they'll start it at 7 pm ET. The game before that one probably starts at 3:30 pm ET and the early game at 12 noon ET.

In 2014-2015, the first year of this system, Dec. 31 is a Wednesday, so a lot of people will be working, maybe they cut out of the office a couple hours early... but that day ESPN will be showing three games, none of them playoff semifinals. The noon ET game will get TV ratings only slightly better than a Sun Bowl gets now on Dec. 31 (2.7 rating, 4.0 million viewers on 12/31/2012), the middle game will likely do about the same as this year's Chik-Fil-A (4.8 rating, 8.6 million viewers on 12/31/2012), and the late game will have ratings about the same as the middle game (or slightly better or worse depending on the teams playing in those games).

How many viewers are they losing by playing these games on 12/31 instead of prime time on 1/2, 1/3, or 1/4? A lot. This year's Sugar Bowl on 1/2 had a 6.2 rating, 10.1 million viewers; Fiesta Bowl on 1/3 had 7.4 and 12.3 million viewers; Cotton Bowl on 1/4 had 7.2 and 11.9 million viewers.

Source for TV ratings: http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2013/01/...he-charts/

Let's use this year with the 2014-15 setup....
SF1 1 Notre Dame vs 4 Florida @ Rose 5pm NYD
SF2 2 Alabama vs 3 Oregon @ Sugar 8:30pm NYD
Orange gets Georgia vs Florida St 7 or 8pm NYE

Your other 3 games include
Wisconsin(B10 Champ displaced), NIU(G5 rep), KSU(B12 champ displaced), Stanford(P12 champ) and 2 other schools.

Chick-fil-a Northern Illinois vs Texas A&M
Fiesta Wisconsin vs Stanford
Orange Georgia vs Florida St

Cotton Kansas St vs LSU
Rose Notre Dame vs Florida
Sugar Alabama vs Oregon

I think it's pretty safe to say that folks would be watching Wisconsin/Stanford and Georgia/Florida St pretty good on NYE.

(04-25-2013 10:56 AM)Wedge Wrote:  How many viewers are they losing by playing these games on 12/31 instead of prime time on 1/2, 1/3, or 1/4? A lot. This year's Sugar Bowl on 1/2 had a 6.2 rating, 10.1 million viewers; Fiesta Bowl on 1/3 had 7.4 and 12.3 million viewers; Cotton Bowl on 1/4 had 7.2 and 11.9 million viewers.

Source for TV ratings: http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2013/01/...he-charts/

There it is... writing on the wall. Why are the BCS games in midweek as it is??? They are perfect fillers to Wild Card weekend, and they help us get over the end of the Holidays. You need these Bowls in primetime. They haven't been doing good ratings as it is, but cramming the 3-4 marginal BCS bowls that don't feature the top 4 clubs into two days kills all the TV revenue these bowls and networks generate. They are going to adjust the TV schedule, and there won't be some stipulation on when the Bowls must be played, outside of the Rose and MAYBE the Sugar.

Otherwise, just have the SF on 1/1 or 1/2 every year, with two games from 1 pm-12am NYD, with the Rose sandwiched between them on non-SF years. I still think the other BCS bowls will eventually migrate to the week after New Year's once the ratings plummit, as those teams aren't playing in the NC game, and can be perfect fillers leading up to the national championship. I see it as:

NYE/NYD: Two SF games back to back nights or back to back on 1/1.

Between Jan 2nd-NC: Four remaining BCS bowls separate nights in prime time.

And if you are skeptical, what is ESPN going to be airing every night between New Year's and the NC game? Regular season basketball... in January? NFL shows? They need to fill those time slots.

despite last years ratings the BCS non NYD ratings have in years past gone into the tank. The system was broke. I mean the Orange 2 years ago got a 4.5 rating and the Sugar got a 6.1 rating. the Orange the last 4 years has NEVER broken even a 7 rating. the best ratings non NYD were like a 8.5. Playing BCS games on non NYD days was an epic fail.

What they'll be airing between Jan 2 and the NC- to me this will be where you find some bowls like the Cap One Bowl, Gator, etc.

(04-25-2013 02:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  What they'll be airing between Jan 2 and the NC- to me this will be where you find some bowls like the Cap One Bowl, Gator, etc.

Of course that's what ESPN will be showing in those time slots. And games like the Cap One in prime time on Jan. 2 or 3 will get better TV ratings than those CFP/BCS games on Dec. 31.

A prime time game on Jan. 2 or 3 between a ranked SEC team and a ranked Big Ten team will get better TV ratings than the early game on Dec. 31, and depending on the matchups, might get better ratings than all of the games on Dec. 31. Which means that the CFP/BCS folks are making a big mistake by putting three of their games in less-attractive time slots on Dec. 31 while leaving the more attractive post-Jan. 1 time slots, that will get better TV ratings, to the Cap One/Holiday/Alamo/Outback level of games.

(04-25-2013 02:18 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  What they'll be airing between Jan 2 and the NC- to me this will be where you find some bowls like the Cap One Bowl, Gator, etc.

Of course that's what ESPN will be showing in those time slots. And games like the Cap One in prime time on Jan. 2 or 3 will get better TV ratings than those CFP/BCS games on Dec. 31.

A prime time game on Jan. 2 or 3 between a ranked SEC team and a ranked Big Ten team will get better TV ratings than the early game on Dec. 31, and depending on the matchups, might get better ratings than all of the games on Dec. 31. Which means that the CFP/BCS folks are making a big mistake by putting three of their games in less-attractive time slots on Dec. 31 while leaving the more attractive post-Jan. 1 time slots, that will get better TV ratings, to the Cap One/Holiday/Alamo/Outback level of games.

The post Jan 1 time slots have NOT been getting good ratings. They just haven't. Of all the lowest BCS rated games, a huge majority were non NYD games in the last few years.

(04-25-2013 02:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:18 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  What they'll be airing between Jan 2 and the NC- to me this will be where you find some bowls like the Cap One Bowl, Gator, etc.

Of course that's what ESPN will be showing in those time slots. And games like the Cap One in prime time on Jan. 2 or 3 will get better TV ratings than those CFP/BCS games on Dec. 31.

A prime time game on Jan. 2 or 3 between a ranked SEC team and a ranked Big Ten team will get better TV ratings than the early game on Dec. 31, and depending on the matchups, might get better ratings than all of the games on Dec. 31. Which means that the CFP/BCS folks are making a big mistake by putting three of their games in less-attractive time slots on Dec. 31 while leaving the more attractive post-Jan. 1 time slots, that will get better TV ratings, to the Cap One/Holiday/Alamo/Outback level of games.

The post Jan 1 time slots have NOT been getting good ratings. They just haven't. Of all the lowest BCS rated games, a huge majority were non NYD games in the last few years.

The Jan 2/3/4 games get excellent ratings compared to any games played on Dec. 31, which is the whole point here.

It's true that the Jan 2/3/4 games have ratings well below those of the Rose and the BCS title game (and usually any BCS bowl played on Jan 1 after the Rose), but that doesn't change the fact that the Jan 2/3/4 prime time windows are better than the Dec. 31 windows. The numbers don't lie.

(04-25-2013 02:30 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:18 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  What they'll be airing between Jan 2 and the NC- to me this will be where you find some bowls like the Cap One Bowl, Gator, etc.

Of course that's what ESPN will be showing in those time slots. And games like the Cap One in prime time on Jan. 2 or 3 will get better TV ratings than those CFP/BCS games on Dec. 31.

A prime time game on Jan. 2 or 3 between a ranked SEC team and a ranked Big Ten team will get better TV ratings than the early game on Dec. 31, and depending on the matchups, might get better ratings than all of the games on Dec. 31. Which means that the CFP/BCS folks are making a big mistake by putting three of their games in less-attractive time slots on Dec. 31 while leaving the more attractive post-Jan. 1 time slots, that will get better TV ratings, to the Cap One/Holiday/Alamo/Outback level of games.

The post Jan 1 time slots have NOT been getting good ratings. They just haven't. Of all the lowest BCS rated games, a huge majority were non NYD games in the last few years.

The Jan 2/3/4 games get excellent ratings compared to any games played on Dec. 31, which is the whole point here.

It's true that the Jan 2/3/4 games have ratings well below those of the Rose and the BCS title game (and usually any BCS bowl played on Jan 1 after the Rose), but that doesn't change the fact that the Jan 2/3/4 prime time windows are better than the Dec. 31 windows. The numbers don't lie.

Of course they have gotten better ratings than the Dec 31 games. The reason is the Dec 31 games, outside of maybe the Chick-fil-a game- are bad games with nary a top 25 team in there. I mean this year games on 12/31-
7-5 NC State vs 8-4 Vanderbilt
7-5 USC vs 6-7 Ga Tech
6-6 Iowa St vs 10-3 Tulsa
10-2 LSU vs 10-2 Clemson

of course the games after NYD would beat those 21 Louisville vs 3 Florida and 4 Oregon vs 5 Kansas St. It's apples to oranges in terms of quality of games- not even in the same stratosphere at all.

(04-25-2013 02:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:18 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 02:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  What they'll be airing between Jan 2 and the NC- to me this will be where you find some bowls like the Cap One Bowl, Gator, etc.

Of course that's what ESPN will be showing in those time slots. And games like the Cap One in prime time on Jan. 2 or 3 will get better TV ratings than those CFP/BCS games on Dec. 31.

A prime time game on Jan. 2 or 3 between a ranked SEC team and a ranked Big Ten team will get better TV ratings than the early game on Dec. 31, and depending on the matchups, might get better ratings than all of the games on Dec. 31. Which means that the CFP/BCS folks are making a big mistake by putting three of their games in less-attractive time slots on Dec. 31 while leaving the more attractive post-Jan. 1 time slots, that will get better TV ratings, to the Cap One/Holiday/Alamo/Outback level of games.

The post Jan 1 time slots have NOT been getting good ratings. They just haven't. Of all the lowest BCS rated games, a huge majority were non NYD games in the last few years.

A lot of the ratings drop has to do with the fact that the games went to ESPN instead of ABC.