(04-22-2013 07:51 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  Well, I think that it's safe to say "so much for all the smoke coming out of UNC recently."

Why? The fire is just starting to burn.

I suspect several things have been at work here:

1. ESPN didn't want to lose any of it's property and didn't want to tick of the SEC.

2. The SEC was more interested in markets than new teams.

3. ESPN was more interested in having both strong basketball and football products.

4. Some sort of compromise was reached in which the SEC might have access to ACC markets without having to take teams and the ACC might have access to SEC markets without having to take teams. And that somehow their networks are going to be related either directly or packaged.

5. "If" there is further expansion at this point it will likely come from the Big 12 and will be designed for ESPN to protect brands they do not wish to share with FOX.

6. Both the ACC and SEC are about to earn more than many believed possible.

(04-22-2013 07:32 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:29 PM)krux Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:26 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:24 PM)krux Wrote:  He mad^^^

Really? That is what you think and that is the best you could come up with?

I am being serious, you guys should have gotten a whole lot more than 20 million. I would assume the GoR would be for an ACC Network. All you guys are getting for that Network is 1 million. That doesnt make me mad. That is pure comedy.

You are the one that should be mad that ESPN thinks so little of what the ACC Network will become.

I'm not going to read for you dude. You've spent the last few months digging up every ACC article on the planet and spinning it as proof we're breaking up. THEN an end is finally put to the speculation and you won't take the time to visit ESPN's front page for a link.

What else is there to read? The ACC was scheduled to make 17 million. The scuttlebutt in the media was that Notre Dame would end up bringing that up to 19 million when the new agreement was fully etched out. A GoR was added to that and pushed it up to 20 million. One million a team for signing a GoR and that is all.

What else should I know Guru of the ACC and fan of a school that isn't yet even in the ACC?

I mean I get why a Louisville guy would think this number is awesome. Compared to what you were getting in the Big East it is a big number and it does provide some semblence of stability, another issue the Big East had. The thing is though, it is a low number.

You can make childish statements towards me in an attempt to refute it but that just shows how bad at this you are.

You are too damn stupid to even be butthurt about what that figure says about the ACC.

The GOR didn't raise the value of the TV contract, genius. The value of the contract and the GOR were announced in the same press release. You have no idea what you're talking about.

When would you consider an ACC network to be more than talk? The SEC network has been talked about plenty for at least year but wasn't officially announced until this month. If you need a similar announcement that could happen anytime between now and next summer (2014).

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:32 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:29 PM)krux Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:26 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:24 PM)krux Wrote:  He mad^^^

Really? That is what you think and that is the best you could come up with?

I am being serious, you guys should have gotten a whole lot more than 20 million. I would assume the GoR would be for an ACC Network. All you guys are getting for that Network is 1 million. That doesnt make me mad. That is pure comedy.

You are the one that should be mad that ESPN thinks so little of what the ACC Network will become.

I'm not going to read for you dude. You've spent the last few months digging up every ACC article on the planet and spinning it as proof we're breaking up. THEN an end is finally put to the speculation and you won't take the time to visit ESPN's front page for a link.

What else is there to read? The ACC was scheduled to make 17 million. The scuttlebutt in the media was that Notre Dame would end up bringing that up to 19 million when the new agreement was fully etched out. A GoR was added to that and pushed it up to 20 million. One million a team for signing a GoR and that is all.

What else should I know Guru of the ACC and fan of a school that isn't yet even in the ACC?

I mean I get why a Louisville guy would think this number is awesome. Compared to what you were getting in the Big East it is a big number and it does provide some semblence of stability, another issue the Big East had. The thing is though, it is a low number.

You can make childish statements towards me in an attempt to refute it but that just shows how bad at this you are.

You are too damn stupid to even be butthurt about what that figure says about the ACC.

The GOR didn't raise the value of the TV contract, genius. The value of the contract and the GOR were announced in the same press release. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Oh really? So all these schools signing over their rights in a show of good faith that the conference will last for quite some time, that had nothing to do with ESPN being willing to hand over more money?

Ok.....whatever you say.

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  When would you consider an ACC network to be more than talk? The SEC network has been talked about plenty for at least year but wasn't officially announced until this month. If you need a similar announcement that could happen anytime between now and next summer (2014).

Yes, when there is some actual meat on the bone then I will do a just for you WakeForestRanger because as usual your display of rationality and self control impresses me.

This IS a big day for the ACC and fans such as yourself, no doubt, but there is still a lot that needs to be shown for this to truly be known as to what is all entailed in this.

All we know is GoR and 20 mil a team due to it.

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  When would you consider an ACC network to be more than talk? The SEC network has been talked about plenty for at least year but wasn't officially announced until this month. If you need a similar announcement that could happen anytime between now and next summer (2014).

Yes, when there is some actual meat on the bone then I will do a just for you WakeForestRanger because as usual your display of rationality and self control impresses me.

This IS a big day for the ACC and fans such as yourself, no doubt, but there is still a lot that needs to be shown for this to truly be known as to what is all entailed in this.

All we know is GoR and 20 mil a team due to it.

How much did the Big Ten pay out last season? What did that include? Same two questions for the ACC?

(04-22-2013 07:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I suspect several things have been at work here:

1. ESPN didn't want to lose any of it's property and didn't want to tick of the SEC.

2. The SEC was more interested in markets than new teams.

3. ESPN was more interested in having both strong basketball and football products.

4. Some sort of compromise was reached in which the SEC might have access to ACC markets without having to take teams and the ACC might have access to SEC markets without having to take teams. And that somehow their networks are going to be related either directly or packaged.

5. "If" there is further expansion at this point it will likely come from the Big 12 and will be designed for ESPN to protect brands they do not wish to share with FOX.

6. Both the ACC and SEC are about to earn more than many believed possible.

fantastic post Jr! I think #4 and #6 is pretty accurate. What I've seen in another post on a different site is that the ACC and SEC would be paid $ for states in each other's footprint.

(04-22-2013 08:00 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  When would you consider an ACC network to be more than talk? The SEC network has been talked about plenty for at least year but wasn't officially announced until this month. If you need a similar announcement that could happen anytime between now and next summer (2014).

Yes, when there is some actual meat on the bone then I will do a just for you WakeForestRanger because as usual your display of rationality and self control impresses me.

This IS a big day for the ACC and fans such as yourself, no doubt, but there is still a lot that needs to be shown for this to truly be known as to what is all entailed in this.

All we know is GoR and 20 mil a team due to it.

How much did the Big Ten pay out last season? What did that include? Same two questions for the ACC?

Oh my god you guys! Fine! I did a real quick google search and found what you want to see. Sheesh you guys!

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gopher...ml?refer=y

Quote:Six years ago, before the Big Ten Network debuted, the university received $10.7 million in annual payments from the Big Ten. Two years later, with the conference's network firmly in place televising football, basketball and other sports, Minnesota's annual share jumped to $18.8 million. It has since spiraled to $22.9 million in 2011 and figures to jump even more -- one unofficial estimate put the figure at $32 million by 2014 -- when Rutgers and Maryland join the Big Ten and push the conference into the lucrative East Coast markets.

There. Now, I got other **** to do. You are all welcome for being your antagonist so you could have fun defending the ACC GoR that was just signed.

This all IS for fun. I don't mind being the bad guy.

(04-22-2013 08:09 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:00 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  When would you consider an ACC network to be more than talk? The SEC network has been talked about plenty for at least year but wasn't officially announced until this month. If you need a similar announcement that could happen anytime between now and next summer (2014).

Yes, when there is some actual meat on the bone then I will do a just for you WakeForestRanger because as usual your display of rationality and self control impresses me.

This IS a big day for the ACC and fans such as yourself, no doubt, but there is still a lot that needs to be shown for this to truly be known as to what is all entailed in this.

All we know is GoR and 20 mil a team due to it.

How much did the Big Ten pay out last season? What did that include? Same two questions for the ACC?

Oh my god you guys! Fine! I did a real quick google search and found what you want to see. Sheesh you guys!

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gopher...ml?refer=y

Quote:Six years ago, before the Big Ten Network debuted, the university received $10.7 million in annual payments from the Big Ten. Two years later, with the conference's network firmly in place televising football, basketball and other sports, Minnesota's annual share jumped to $18.8 million. It has since spiraled to $22.9 million in 2011 and figures to jump even more -- one unofficial estimate put the figure at $32 million by 2014 -- when Rutgers and Maryland join the Big Ten and push the conference into the lucrative East Coast markets.

There. Now, I got other **** to do. You are all welcome for being your antagonist so you could have fun defending the ACC GoR that was just signed.

This all IS for fun. I don't mind being the bad guy.

You've talked a ton of smack to people in this thread over 2.9 million bucks? Talk about being full of crap; that's the numbers being thrown out by the Big Ten over the addition of Rutgers and Maryland. Let the rest of us know when they actually do make over $32M a season. Like I said you really didn't know what you were talking about. Enjoy your other **** you got to do.

(04-22-2013 08:09 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:00 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  When would you consider an ACC network to be more than talk? The SEC network has been talked about plenty for at least year but wasn't officially announced until this month. If you need a similar announcement that could happen anytime between now and next summer (2014).

Yes, when there is some actual meat on the bone then I will do a just for you WakeForestRanger because as usual your display of rationality and self control impresses me.

This IS a big day for the ACC and fans such as yourself, no doubt, but there is still a lot that needs to be shown for this to truly be known as to what is all entailed in this.

All we know is GoR and 20 mil a team due to it.

How much did the Big Ten pay out last season? What did that include? Same two questions for the ACC?

Oh my god you guys! Fine! I did a real quick google search and found what you want to see. Sheesh you guys!

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gopher...ml?refer=y

Quote:Six years ago, before the Big Ten Network debuted, the university received $10.7 million in annual payments from the Big Ten. Two years later, with the conference's network firmly in place televising football, basketball and other sports, Minnesota's annual share jumped to $18.8 million. It has since spiraled to $22.9 million in 2011 and figures to jump even more -- one unofficial estimate put the figure at $32 million by 2014 -- when Rutgers and Maryland join the Big Ten and push the conference into the lucrative East Coast markets.

There. Now, I got other **** to do. You are all welcome for being your antagonist so you could have fun defending the ACC GoR that was just signed.

This all IS for fun. I don't mind being the bad guy.

Wearin' a black hat?

(04-22-2013 07:50 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:49 PM)krux Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:48 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  A well kept Secret like say a Grant of Rights that the schools have had in front of them for the past month yet word only leaked out today?

shhhhh, he's too busy calling me a child to worry about details like that...

And once again, krux doesn't add a single thing to the conversation.

(04-22-2013 08:14 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:09 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:00 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  When would you consider an ACC network to be more than talk? The SEC network has been talked about plenty for at least year but wasn't officially announced until this month. If you need a similar announcement that could happen anytime between now and next summer (2014).

Yes, when there is some actual meat on the bone then I will do a just for you WakeForestRanger because as usual your display of rationality and self control impresses me.

This IS a big day for the ACC and fans such as yourself, no doubt, but there is still a lot that needs to be shown for this to truly be known as to what is all entailed in this.

All we know is GoR and 20 mil a team due to it.

How much did the Big Ten pay out last season? What did that include? Same two questions for the ACC?

Oh my god you guys! Fine! I did a real quick google search and found what you want to see. Sheesh you guys!

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gopher...ml?refer=y

Quote:Six years ago, before the Big Ten Network debuted, the university received $10.7 million in annual payments from the Big Ten. Two years later, with the conference's network firmly in place televising football, basketball and other sports, Minnesota's annual share jumped to $18.8 million. It has since spiraled to $22.9 million in 2011 and figures to jump even more -- one unofficial estimate put the figure at $32 million by 2014 -- when Rutgers and Maryland join the Big Ten and push the conference into the lucrative East Coast markets.

There. Now, I got other **** to do. You are all welcome for being your antagonist so you could have fun defending the ACC GoR that was just signed.

This all IS for fun. I don't mind being the bad guy.

You've talked a ton of smack to people in this thread over 2.9 million bucks? Talk about being full of crap; that's the numbers being thrown out by the Big Ten over the addition of Rutgers and Maryland. Let the rest of us know when they actually do make over $32M a season. Like I said you really didn't know what you were talking about. Enjoy your other **** you got to do.

I will talk smack over 2 bucks, so what? You want to say 2.9 million bucks is no big deal? Then why are you and others so excited over a raise from 17 to 20 million. 3.0 million...2.9 million.....come on now, lets not be hypocritical.

As for your well wishes, thank you, and I am.

(04-22-2013 08:19 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:09 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:00 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  When would you consider an ACC network to be more than talk? The SEC network has been talked about plenty for at least year but wasn't officially announced until this month. If you need a similar announcement that could happen anytime between now and next summer (2014).

Yes, when there is some actual meat on the bone then I will do a just for you WakeForestRanger because as usual your display of rationality and self control impresses me.

This IS a big day for the ACC and fans such as yourself, no doubt, but there is still a lot that needs to be shown for this to truly be known as to what is all entailed in this.

All we know is GoR and 20 mil a team due to it.

How much did the Big Ten pay out last season? What did that include? Same two questions for the ACC?

Oh my god you guys! Fine! I did a real quick google search and found what you want to see. Sheesh you guys!

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gopher...ml?refer=y

Quote:Six years ago, before the Big Ten Network debuted, the university received $10.7 million in annual payments from the Big Ten. Two years later, with the conference's network firmly in place televising football, basketball and other sports, Minnesota's annual share jumped to $18.8 million. It has since spiraled to $22.9 million in 2011 and figures to jump even more -- one unofficial estimate put the figure at $32 million by 2014 -- when Rutgers and Maryland join the Big Ten and push the conference into the lucrative East Coast markets.

There. Now, I got other **** to do. You are all welcome for being your antagonist so you could have fun defending the ACC GoR that was just signed.

This all IS for fun. I don't mind being the bad guy.

Wearin' a black hat?

Not at the moment, didn't have time to put it on.

(04-22-2013 02:17 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 02:07 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 01:52 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 12:10 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Someone will eventually challenge a GoR and then we'll see how ironclad they are. Until then, none of us know how well it will hold up. We all thought exit fees were enforceable until they weren't.

While true, this does work pretty differently. A grant of rights does not technically do anything to stop someone from changing conferences. They have given up rights to broadcast home games though so legally, if a school leaves conference A for conference B, conference A still has all the home rights. The only way for a school to get them back is to buy them back or wait for the GoR to expire (which they all do eventually).

Well if someone leaves, the ACC still owns the rights to their home games but they have sold those rights (with the possible except of Tier III) to ESPN.

It protects the ACC in that if a school leaves, ESPN has less basis for lowering the rights fee since ESPN will still hold the rights to 6 to 8 games per year for the school depending on their scheduling practices. The only loss is the four conference road games.

In reality if say UVA went to the Big 10, chances are that UVA's home schedule will be just as valuable, if not more valuable to ESPN than if they remained in the ACC. ESPN comes out ahead because none of the extra value has to be paid to the ACC.

This is an important point. GOR protects ESPN moreso than anyone else as they have their contracts with all 5 of the Big conferences, especially the ACC and SEC as those conferences have sold the rights covered under the GOR to ESPN. Any ACC or SEC school that leaves still has their rights owned by ESPN long term. Any Pac 12 or Big 10 school that leaves still has their rights owned by the Pac 12 Network and Big 10 Network. Any Big 12 School that leaves will have their rights owned by Fox/ESPN.

The GOR gives ESPN an incentive to keep teams from leaving the ACC and SEC due to their long term deals. In 2016 The Big 10 will likely do what the Pac 12 did and take all their content in house and sell packages of games to the networks. So an ACC school leaving the ACC to the Big 10 would drive the price up for ESPN next contract negotiation. This GOR may not be 100% fullproof, but it does a great job at protecting the conference by aligining it with ESPN. It is much better to have ESPN on your side in college sports

Important point...ESPN could actually facilitate a team to move from the ACC to the SEC. Hopefully the ACC covered that in the contract.

UConn to the B1G!

(04-22-2013 08:34 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 02:17 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 02:07 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 01:52 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 12:10 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Someone will eventually challenge a GoR and then we'll see how ironclad they are. Until then, none of us know how well it will hold up. We all thought exit fees were enforceable until they weren't.

While true, this does work pretty differently. A grant of rights does not technically do anything to stop someone from changing conferences. They have given up rights to broadcast home games though so legally, if a school leaves conference A for conference B, conference A still has all the home rights. The only way for a school to get them back is to buy them back or wait for the GoR to expire (which they all do eventually).

Well if someone leaves, the ACC still owns the rights to their home games but they have sold those rights (with the possible except of Tier III) to ESPN.

It protects the ACC in that if a school leaves, ESPN has less basis for lowering the rights fee since ESPN will still hold the rights to 6 to 8 games per year for the school depending on their scheduling practices. The only loss is the four conference road games.

In reality if say UVA went to the Big 10, chances are that UVA's home schedule will be just as valuable, if not more valuable to ESPN than if they remained in the ACC. ESPN comes out ahead because none of the extra value has to be paid to the ACC.

This is an important point. GOR protects ESPN moreso than anyone else as they have their contracts with all 5 of the Big conferences, especially the ACC and SEC as those conferences have sold the rights covered under the GOR to ESPN. Any ACC or SEC school that leaves still has their rights owned by ESPN long term. Any Pac 12 or Big 10 school that leaves still has their rights owned by the Pac 12 Network and Big 10 Network. Any Big 12 School that leaves will have their rights owned by Fox/ESPN.

The GOR gives ESPN an incentive to keep teams from leaving the ACC and SEC due to their long term deals. In 2016 The Big 10 will likely do what the Pac 12 did and take all their content in house and sell packages of games to the networks. So an ACC school leaving the ACC to the Big 10 would drive the price up for ESPN next contract negotiation. This GOR may not be 100% fullproof, but it does a great job at protecting the conference by aligining it with ESPN. It is much better to have ESPN on your side in college sports

Important point...ESPN could actually facilitate a team to move from the ACC to the SEC. Hopefully the ACC covered that in the contract.

How? GOR's belong to the conference. How would the losing conference be compensated?

(04-22-2013 08:50 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:34 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 02:17 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 02:07 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 01:52 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  While true, this does work pretty differently. A grant of rights does not technically do anything to stop someone from changing conferences. They have given up rights to broadcast home games though so legally, if a school leaves conference A for conference B, conference A still has all the home rights. The only way for a school to get them back is to buy them back or wait for the GoR to expire (which they all do eventually).

Well if someone leaves, the ACC still owns the rights to their home games but they have sold those rights (with the possible except of Tier III) to ESPN.

It protects the ACC in that if a school leaves, ESPN has less basis for lowering the rights fee since ESPN will still hold the rights to 6 to 8 games per year for the school depending on their scheduling practices. The only loss is the four conference road games.

In reality if say UVA went to the Big 10, chances are that UVA's home schedule will be just as valuable, if not more valuable to ESPN than if they remained in the ACC. ESPN comes out ahead because none of the extra value has to be paid to the ACC.

This is an important point. GOR protects ESPN moreso than anyone else as they have their contracts with all 5 of the Big conferences, especially the ACC and SEC as those conferences have sold the rights covered under the GOR to ESPN. Any ACC or SEC school that leaves still has their rights owned by ESPN long term. Any Pac 12 or Big 10 school that leaves still has their rights owned by the Pac 12 Network and Big 10 Network. Any Big 12 School that leaves will have their rights owned by Fox/ESPN.

The GOR gives ESPN an incentive to keep teams from leaving the ACC and SEC due to their long term deals. In 2016 The Big 10 will likely do what the Pac 12 did and take all their content in house and sell packages of games to the networks. So an ACC school leaving the ACC to the Big 10 would drive the price up for ESPN next contract negotiation. This GOR may not be 100% fullproof, but it does a great job at protecting the conference by aligining it with ESPN. It is much better to have ESPN on your side in college sports

Important point...ESPN could actually facilitate a team to move from the ACC to the SEC. Hopefully the ACC covered that in the contract.

How? GOR's belong to the conference. How would the losing conference be compensated?

Wake for UT...straight up. Get's SEC into NC and ACC into TN. Plus SEC gets to upgrade their academics

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  When would you consider an ACC network to be more than talk? The SEC network has been talked about plenty for at least year but wasn't officially announced until this month. If you need a similar announcement that could happen anytime between now and next summer (2014).

Yes, when there is some actual meat on the bone then I will do a just for you WakeForestRanger because as usual your display of rationality and self control impresses me.

This IS a big day for the ACC and fans such as yourself, no doubt, but there is still a lot that needs to be shown for this to truly be known as to what is all entailed in this.

All we know is GoR and 20 mil a team due to it.

Based on history hard to believe anything coming out of the ACC regarding money. I'll believe the $20 when it leaks from elsewhere. I don't believe ESPN was paying to keep them together unless they got something real in return.

Basically, none of the schools were willing to leave for the $ differences that existed. You start with the fact that 11 of the 14 were in their first choice conference, all else being equal, and the B1G and SEC would never invite the other 3 (Pitt/UL/Clemson). I've long felt it was whether the B1G could buy UVA or whether FSU was willing to go to the Big 12 for the $ difference. Nobody else could or would be the first to leave.

(04-22-2013 07:43 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:27 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:25 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  He should have called dibs on more schools.

I only ever called dibs on one and I got that one right. Nice try at making another smart ass comment. Ended up being a dumb ass comment. Go figure.

Wait...then again, these comments are coming from guys that are happy about their schools getting another million from an ACC Network.

"Member schools will reportedly begin receiving compensation north of $20 million annually, beginning July 1."


Thats a quote from the FSU AD. There really have not been any details regarding the Acc network. North of $20 million could mean $25 million or $20,100,000. No one knows until more details have been released. But those figures are only for the media revenue and does not include other revenue, such as Ncaa credits and bowl revenue, etc.. Its really too early for anyone to be bragging or ridiculing this deal until the details come out, or one could find themselves eating some bitter crow.
I will say that Acc teams seem to be off the table for other conferences to expand with though.

That isn't a quote from the FSU AD in the previous article. That is just the writer's comments.